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I mean lack of understanding autism is a problem but this conclusion is a problem too.
What, that there is no point in life? There really isn't, not objectively at least. The point of it is what you make of it - for some of us that is to end it as soon as possible because it's unbearable.
 
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Dogs are wondeful animals and they make great friends.

Yeah, I do think psychiatrists and most medical professionals are now realising how dangerous it can be though. The inherent risks involved with a late diagnosis can be catastrophic - as the saying goes, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. (and especially not when they're developmentally challenged as it is!)
Makes sense. It may sound sadistic but i am waiting for a diagnosis before deciding on ctb.want to see how i feel as people talk of this relief. But my guess is that ill see it as a life sentence and confirmation. Im very tgankful that you have highlighted this issue on here .
I'm autistic and female. Ofc this is just my opinion I'm no expert.
The most overwhelming thing is when I can't deal with autism and everybody says DON'T USE AUTISM AS AN EXCUSE.
I mean I really can't deal with things. But no one cares.
Donotlet don't use autism as an excuse. Do not so. YOU GOTTA BE PERFECT WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND. You are being unfit because you're spoiled not because you're autistic if you tried you would be normal... You are just annoying.

I always hear this. No one cares. What is the point of life? Why can't anyone tell me what is the point of life? Why am I supposed to keep going? Why? If there was one person who acknowledged my autism. Or even a half of a person would be enough.
I may be wrong but to me this is the problem with high functioning autism. Most have average or above average iq and people think that you are using your intelligence and using autism as an excuse. People can be very ignorant without sounding awful, maybe having classic autism woukd be easier as people would not question the disordervas it would be more obvious.
This is pretty much the logical conclusion we all come to in the end, I think. There isn't much point for us, most people say that life is about relationships and bonds we make with eachother... that's nice, what about for those of us who can't do that? Yeah, didn't think so.
I think what carrie mentioned in the documentary about feeling like she is from another planet makes so much sense in terms of relationships and bonds. She felt alienated and unconnected and im sure its very common as i feel it.
 
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I've had terrible relationships been divorced twice. Both were physically and mentally abusive towards me. And didn't last long, I made big mistakes...
I think I will never have another relationship.
I'm sorry you've had such terrible experiences. I've only experienced the emotional manipulation kind personally, usually via gaslighting. The biggest area where autism has fucked me over is my naivety I think, I was always very gullible and even as an adult I can't understand how people can lie and be so nasty to eachother. So experiencing that is incredibly painful for me and seeing it inflicted on others is just as bad. So I'm sorry you've had to experience it.
 
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I'm female, older, and self-diagnosed. I've considered getting an assessment but it's expensive, and as others have noted diagnosis is difficult for older people especially women. If it came back negative, I'd be left thinking 1) was it an accurate assessment, and 2) what now - I guess I am just a freak. I've read a ton, taken the online assessments, and I feel fairly confident in my self-diagnosis.


This is pretty much the logical conclusion we all come to in the end, I think. There isn't much point for us, most people say that life is about relationships and bonds we make with eachother... that's nice, what about for those of us who can't do that? Yeah, didn't think so.

For me this is it in a nutshell. I'm tired of hearing "you just need to join more groups", "it just takes practice to get better at social interactions". Sorry no, I'm not wired that way, never will be, and the older I get the more it becomes clear that 1) I can't fix this, and 2) life is not worth living if you don't have connections with other people.
 
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I'm female, older, and self-diagnosed. I've considered getting an assessment but it's expensive, and as others have noted diagnosis is difficult for older people especially women. If it came back negative, I'd be left thinking 1) was it an accurate assessment, and 2) what now - I guess I am just a freak. I've read a ton, taken the online assessments, and I feel fairly confident in my self-diagnosis.




For me this is it in a nutshell. I'm tired of hearing "you just need to join more groups", "it just takes practice to get better at social interactions". Sorry no, I'm not wired that way, never will be, and the older I get the more it becomes clear that 1) I can't fix this, and 2) life is not worth living if you don't have connections with other people.
Sadly im sure im autistic and i agree. Especially the point about life not being worth living if you down have connections with other people. X
 
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I'm female, older, and self-diagnosed. I've considered getting an assessment but it's expensive, and as others have noted diagnosis is difficult for older people especially women. If it came back negative, I'd be left thinking 1) was it an accurate assessment, and 2) what now - I guess I am just a freak. I've read a ton, taken the online assessments, and I feel fairly confident in my self-diagnosis.




For me this is it in a nutshell. I'm tired of hearing "you just need to join more groups", "it just takes practice to get better at social interactions". Sorry no, I'm not wired that way, never will be, and the older I get the more it becomes clear that 1) I can't fix this, and 2) life is not worth living if you don't have connections with other people.
Are you in the UK? Some people do suggest it may be better to not get a formal diagnosis and if you think this is for you, then certainly don't get one.

I think a diagnosis can help some people though, as it gives you a lot of leeway regarding employment and any support you may need (financial etc.) is easier to obtain with a formal diagnosis. Again, ymmv.
 
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Are you in the UK? Some people do suggest it may be better to not get a formal diagnosis and if you think this is for you, then certainly don't get one.

I think a diagnosis can help some people though, as it gives you a lot of leeway regarding employment and any support you may need (financial etc.) is easier to obtain with a formal diagnosis. Again, ymmv.

I'm not in the UK. And I'm not sure there would be any financial support here (haven't really looked into it though). I think the benefit for me would just be validation, which might help with my self esteem.
 
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