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SchizoGymnast

SchizoGymnast

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I know in many countries police are used to respond to mental health crises and this approach has been criticized over the years by patients and mental health professionals alike. My first encounter with police was a wellness check when I was 13, and it terrified me having a strange man with a gun force his way into my home. Also as someone who has been known to sleep in her car, I get police knocking on my window every now and again asking me oddly personal questions. Then, when I was last hospitalized in 2020, I was told that if I did not go willingly the police would take me into PC.

So...do you guys have any experience with this? Opinions?
 
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Forever Sleep

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Personally, I've been lucky. I've never had any problems with the police. I act respectfully towards them though- in return. But, the officers who did my welfair check were nice and reasonable. One was under more 'tick box' pressure than the other. It was obvious they had to go through standard practices but, they were reasonable about it. I felt like we met each other half way because we both gave each other a degree of trust.

That's how it should be though. They are there to do a job. I respect that but then, they should respect my rights if I'm not breaking the law.

That said, I wouldn't necessarily trust them outright. They're individuals- like everyone else. There are going to be good ones and outright criminal ones who do that job for the power. Some UK police officers are now in prison themselves! I don't assume they will be good and honest. But, I would try to be polite from the start and make my own judgements on how far they can be trusted too.
 
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SchizoGymnast

SchizoGymnast

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May 28, 2024
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Personally, I've been lucky. I've never had any problems with the police. I act respectfully towards them though- in return. But, the officers who did my welfair check were nice and reasonable. One was under more 'tick box' pressure than the other. It was obvious they had to go through standard practices but, they were reasonable about it. I felt like we met each other half way because we both gave each other a degree of trust.

That's how it should be though. They are there to do a job. I respect that but then, they should respect my rights if I'm not breaking the law.

That said, I wouldn't necessarily trust them outright. They're individuals- like everyone else. There are going to be good ones and outright criminal ones who do that job for the power. Some UK police officers are now in prison themselves! I don't assume they will be good and honest. But, I would try to be polite from the start and make my own judgements on how far they can be trusted too.
I'm in the US so that adds a whole other dimension to this. I still agree tho. Whenever I get pulled over, they just let me go. But welfare checks scare me.
 
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Ijustcantanymore

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Nov 22, 2024
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ACAB. I'll just leave it at that. Fucking boot sucking brown shirts all of em.

The cops where I live do not like mental health situations. You can tell they'd rather be doing anything else than trying to help someone in crisis.
 
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SchizoGymnast

SchizoGymnast

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ACAB. I'll just leave it at that. Fucking boot sucking brown shirts all of em.

The cops where I live do not like mental health situations. You can tell they'd rather be doing anything else than trying to help someone in crisis.
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Forever Sleep

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I'm in the US so that adds a whole other dimension to this. I still agree tho. Whenever I get pulled over, they just let me go. But welfare checks scare me.

I think it depends a great deal on who you get and, what your history is. Obviously- they don't want to get into trouble. I suppose I can actually see it from their point if view that is a person who has maybe attempted multiple times so poses a real risk that they may attempt and succeed this time. I actually blame our 'culture of blame' more than them to some degree. The fact that their families will be baying for blood if their loved one had a check and was left to suicide. It must put massive pressure on them which then, makes them put pressure on us.

Put it this way- you know you'll likely get into trouble if you make the wrong decision and the person does suicide. Can you even assess what they are likely to do? I actually think it's no wonder people do get referred after a check.

If you've ever worked in a shop, you can start to feel resentful towards the people who could potentially get you fined £1000's. I used to hate asking for ID. People would often kick off about it and in my flustered state, my already appalling maths would fail entirely as I desperately tried to figure out their age. Consequently, I used to hate it when youngsters tried to buy alcohol. It simply felt like they were trying to get me into trouble and, they wouldn't care if I did lose my job.

Obviously, police take on that roll knowing the risks they face. I actually think it's a wonder anyone chooses to do that. I think they must be placed in very difficult situations sometimes. In terms of arresting for a crime, what if the person is violent? They can use restraint and force but, only proportionally. Otherwise, they'll get into trouble. How do they judge correctly in the heat of the moment? Can they be sure they will be protected if they make the wrong choice? Obviously, there are outright bad cops out there but, I imagine there are also good ones who just got too caught up in red tape.
 
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During my last failed attempt police and stuff where called. Obiously the police came first and they fucking ridiculed and where passive-aggressive towards me. My short words are FUCK THEM and the whole system and the goverment
 
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SchizoGymnast

SchizoGymnast

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I think it depends a great deal on who you get and, what your history is. Obviously- they don't want to get into trouble. I suppose I can actually see it from their point if view that is a person who has maybe attempted multiple times so poses a real risk that they may attempt and succeed this time. I actually blame our 'culture of blame' more than them to some degree. The fact that their families will be baying for blood if their loved one had a check and was left to suicide. It must put massive pressure on them which then, makes them put pressure on us.

Put it this way- you know you'll likely get into trouble if you make the wrong decision and the person does suicide. Can you even assess what they are likely to do? I actually think it's no wonder people do get referred after a check.

If you've ever worked in a shop, you can start to feel resentful towards the people who could potentially get you fined £1000's. I used to hate asking for ID. People would often kick off about it and in my flustered state, my already appalling maths would fail entirely as I desperately tried to figure out their age. Consequently, I used to hate it when youngsters tried to buy alcohol. It simply felt like they were trying to get me into trouble and, they wouldn't care if I did lose my job.

Obviously, police take on that roll knowing the risks they face. I actually think it's a wonder anyone chooses to do that. I think they must be placed in very difficult situations sometimes. In terms of arresting for a crime, what if the person is violent? They can use restraint and force but, only proportionally. Otherwise, they'll get into trouble. How do they judge correctly in the heat of the moment? Can they be sure they will be protected if they make the wrong choice? Obviously, there are outright bad cops out there but, I imagine there are also good ones who just got too caught up in red tape.
My first welfare check was when I was 13 and it was a total mistake. I dialed a hospital for a school project and I got 911 instead. I hung up. No one ever told me not to hang up on 911. I was totally stunned when police showed up and, being autistic, I took stranger danger very very literally. I. Fought. Him.
 
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My first welfare check was when I was 13 and it was a total mistake. I dialed a hospital for a school project and I got 911 instead. I hung up. No one ever told me not to hang up on 911. I was totally stunned when police showed up and, being autistic, I took stranger danger very very literally. I. Fought. Him.

That must have been terrifying.
 
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Emerita

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I haven't had them come to my house for ctb reasons, but the cops killed my friend, so I'm not a fan of them in any way. If they showed up while I was trying to ctb, I think I would be violently angry. They took my friend's life, but they won't let me go? Absolutely not. They can get the fuck out of my house… if they don't it would piss me off and I feel like I would just try to make it into a suicide by cop situation then.

I knew this one guy they would just throw him in jail for the night. Someone else they just would talk to see what the situation was and would leave afterwards. Another person I knew they kicked him out of his home and just left afterwards and for another person they drove to them to the hospital. So it seems to vary quite a bit. (those were all people I knew who had welfare checks because of ctb I don't know if that was clear)
 
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I haven't had them come to my house for ctb reasons, but the cops killed my friend, so I'm not a fan of them in any way. If they showed up while I was trying to ctb, I think I would be violently angry. They took my friend's life, but they won't let me go? Absolutely not. They can get the fuck out of my house… if they don't it would piss me off and I feel like I would just try to make it into a suicide by cop situation then.

I knew this one guy they would just throw him in jail for the night. Someone else they just would talk to see what the situation was and would leave afterwards. Another person I knew they kicked him out of his home and just left afterwards and for another person they drove to them to the hospital. So it seems to vary quite a bit. (those were all people I knew who had welfare checks because of ctb I don't know if that was clear)
At the end of the day, cops are armed, they can legally lie to you and it's next to impossible to get them to pay for their crimes. So why trust them?
 
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Emerita

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At the end of the day, cops are armed, they can legally lie to you and it's next to impossible to get them to pay for their crimes. So why trust them?
Yeah never trust them. No cop was charged for my friends death and he was a minor, they really don't care. 2 cops who weren't involved in the incident but were a part of the same station made a joke about my friend a dead minor at the hands of one of their coworkers in front of me, at the time I was also a minor. With that kind of behaviour I would start questioning (the cops) if they need the welfare checks because wth is wrong with you in the head. Stop bothering the suicidal people and stop killing minors, God they need to get a grip… grippy socks, lock them up see how they like it.
 
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I know in many countries police are used to respond to mental health crises and this approach has been criticized over the years by patients and mental health professionals alike. My first encounter with police was a wellness check when I was 13, and it terrified me having a strange man with a gun force his way into my home. Also as someone who has been known to sleep in her car, I get police knocking on my window every now and again asking me oddly personal questions. Then, when I was last hospitalized in 2020, I was told that if I did not go willingly the police would take me into PC.

So...do you guys have any experience with this? Opinions?
I have thankfully not had interactions with police on that level, however have met shitty police giving a psa to kids and to be 'friendly' with them and tell them personal information so they can 'feel safe'. Bro, you are the police, you are supposed to put yourself on the line, why do we owe you to feel safe, especially personal information at a time people are being harassed and taken into custody by ice even if they are legal or just protesting?

Anyway, I spoke up a bit, but yea, besides meeting shitty cops and hearing horror stories from people dealing with cops (gun to the head, getting punched, getting intimidated), they've also been proven to not help prevent crime. And yea, you look at everything, they respond way too slow, and when they do, they're very violent and attack bystanders and people in mental crisis, turning off their bodycams and all that. It's actually disturbing the stories you hear.

I've also tried reporting a pedo to the cops, and they literally told me they couldn't do anything unless the victims spoke out, but the victims were scared and children, they didn't want to, so it just solidified my stance we need to protect ourselves and each other. Don't even get me started on SA and domestic abuse victims not being able to get help from cops or law. It's so sad and unfair. We need a huge societal change on consent and community.

I'm pro-second amendment, because I know the cops are more likely to attack me for being a minority or high on power. I know I'd be more likely to come out alive if I protect myself.
Yeah never trust them. No cop was charged for my friends death and he was a minor, they really don't care. 2 cops who weren't involved in the incident but were a part of the same station made a joke about my friend a dead minor at the hands of one of their coworkers in front of me, at the time I was also a minor. With that kind of behaviour I would start questioning (the cops) if they need the welfare checks because wth is wrong with you in the head. Stop bothering the suicidal people and stop killing minors, God they need to get a grip… grippy socks, lock them up see how they like it.
I'm genuinely sorry about your friend and know someone who also lost a friend to a cop. US (if you are) cops are no joke and need a reality check. I can't even imagine that fear and helplessness. Love your pfp and power to the people <33
 
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I've only ever been harassed by them (except once where I did something my fault), and I'm not even a minority.
 
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SchizoGymnast

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I'm not a racial minority but my disability is visible to others and yes, it does occasionally result in police calls. This was back in the late 2000s, it's only gotten worse since then
 
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I've never really had bad encounters with the police. As a disclaimer, I've never had an encounter with them due to a "mental health crisis" or something similar. I did have an encounter with them for a welfare check, though, after my mom called them because she was unable to get in touch with me. It was long before I had a cell phone, and I had driven a good distance from my home to pick up a tarp for my boat. I hadn't bothered telling my mom what I was doing, and she became worried in the evening when she called and I didn't answer, so she called the police. They were waiting on my street when I arrived back home. It was really no big deal. I've also been arrested a couple times, but I was cooperative, and didn't have any issues with them those times, either. I can only speak for here in the US, and really, specifically, only to my community, and, also, only as a non-minority, but I think, most often, the police, at least here, aren't out to give *most* people a hard time unless someone is giving them a hard time. They did "rough up" my cousin once back when he was alive, but he had led them on a high-speed chase on his motorcycle before he wrecked and they finally caught him.
 
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33K1LLM3

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Jun 28, 2025
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Don't want to go into full detail but in one mental health crisis I had, I was in distress and was starting to explain about my mother, I had said something else beforehand which maybe have shouldn't have, but the police officer just shut me down and decided it wasn't something he wanted to deal with. Then when we did eventually go back to my mothers, even when I said no, he decided he had every right to tell me that mother loved me even though I tried indicating that my mother was the issue. He just wanted to jump to anotehr conclusion. Other stuff happened which made me hate those pigs but that was one incident but just enough to make me lose respect for them all.
 
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prettysurethistime

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Good and bad. Seriously. I grew up in London so my opinion was quite poor. I know of good and bad though and even Stephen Lawrence's murder has some evidence of how individual officers take their responsibilities seriously -- the person who called the ambulance and gave him first aid was an off-duty officer. My brother was mugged when he was 13 and the officer was pretty honest that the nature of the crime and the lack of anything beyond a description of the mugger was unlikely yo yield any results but took him to the football match him and his friend were going to and then made sure to pick them up and drive them home when it had finished.

I have had bad and good personally - I've seen multiple acts of police violence, was cautioned for common assault after I had rung 999 when my partner had hit me in the face. Confused and already long traumatised the idea of actually talking to police was too much (he'd taken the phone and hung up, I was largely screaming for help and I think I wanted medical attention more than talking to police officers, who I didn't trust) and he'd also calmed down and was apologetic. We had weed in the house and were in a pretty shit situation with having to move at short notice with no money or jobs. Anyway, I tried to tell them I had problems and didn't want to talk to them but they escalated it and treated me with suspicion (where my PTSD brain reacted by being even more suspicious of them) and after being pushed into a wall and given a bear hug without consent by the female officer, I blew up and pushed them back. That was enough to get arrested. If they had bodycams, I think they would've lost their jobs.

That said, I've since had some quite good ones. I was doing (and still am at times tbh) something stupid because I've genuinely been sent mad by how many times I've been referred to mental health services for it to just derail all my self-care efforts and efforts to seek proper physical care. Pretty sure all the officers involved didn't want to do much about it and even after my behaviour continued, they didn't call the police (or the police have since ignored it). They did give me a facile warning that it would escalate if I did so? Anyway, my welfare checks have been alright. If anything my biggest concern with the police is the officer who came to do one after I got frustrated with my shitty home life and a partner who wouldn't grow up a couple of years ago. He would blame me for not having a job but would be next to useless support wise if I tried to get one. I feel like a shadow of him and that he's tried to stop me having my own personality. He's happiest when I just do whatever shit to appease him and be together. We've been together since I was 19 BTW and let me let myself go massively because being attractive matters in finding a partner, right? So wanting to feel more attractive is proof of me wanting to be with someone else, right? Anyway, this is related to the police in that I confused in a complaint where I felt bullied by a healthcare professional I wanted to talk about some of this with, in relation to physical pain in my jaw and dental issues. They got scared by my being potentially litigious and referred it to the police. I was reasonably open about it to the officers but, despite my mild autism, I'm fairly sure this guy was flirting with me and found me attractive, and not in a creepy way either. It was mutual and I was going to go back to my Mum and Dad's as there's about a dozen level crossings to get hit by a train. I didn't tell him this as I didn't want to get sectioned but I talked about a lot and he was making a lot of eye contact and half smiles. A one point he got pretty annoyed when I talked about the length of my relationship and dropping out of university which had meant a lot to me and he tried to get around me and open my front door (you can't open it from the outside as it has a broken handle) and I had to calm him down - I got the impression he wanted to confront my partner in a very sweetly intentioned white Knight way (and consequently wasn't having that, it wouldn't have helped me and he could have got himself into trouble and wasn't worth it). He tried more than once to convince me to go with him somewhere (professionally so). But he did kind of suggest I could come back here. And when I did there were a few strange things that happened which have stopped but occasionally, like when I had to ring the police a couple of weeks ago because my partner was screaming at me and driving erratically in the car, it was a silent call but with evidence of an aggressive male and the person who responded was...a woman on her own. A bit taller than 5 foot. She did refer to herself as 'we' though - like, she asked where we were parked because they couldn't find us on the main street. She also asked some questions which didn't feel that standard but they might have been, like has ANYONE stalked or harassed you? Which is interesting because...I think said officer might have tried to pick me up, once in a patrol car (assume he was going to hand me a note and get me to meet him at a later date) but I freaked out because of the joint in my pocket. Then a normal car pulled up on one of my now routine walks and beeped at me. I turned and the guy was staring and grinning. It's important to note that I couldn't remember his face, just eyes and lips (because I'm not gonna lie, I was into this guy but kind of scared because I wasn't expecting the police that day and my boyfriend and I had just been arguing) and he kind of has generic white face for these parts so idk if the guy had just accidentally beeped his horn or if it was him. But that stopped after that. And it just weirds me out more than anything. I worry he thinks I'm a liar because I've stayed. Or stupid. I'm just weak tbf. But yeah, I kind of call that stalking. And I don't know how to think about it because, honestly, if he'd just put a note through my door I'd have jumped at it. But weirdly, I can see how he might have chosen the stalker route because of plausible deniability and getting to keep his job if I turned him down or seemed uninterested, even if I did report. Maybe it's that I don't like? Thinking he's kind of relying on being able to call me crazy if things went sour. Also, I might just be crazy and he has done nothing other than have a nice conversation with a woman for ten minutes. This seems likely but there's a bunch of smaller details I've not mentioned and a couple of events that make me go hm. I just don't think anyone reading this cares that much.


Luckily, me and my partner have one last chance to turn over half a leaf. But if this all doesn't work out, which will be hard because I feel pretty worried about mu health (compulsive smoking as a form of self harm and passive suicidal intention) which makes trying seem pointless. Having a kid out of the question, unless things really radically change.


Also my partner isn't that bad. I'm talking about the worst of his behaviour and it doesn't account for my bad behaviour, either. We're both mentally unwell, not psychotic but traumatised and depressed and I've long had barriers to a normal life even before I met him. But there is love in our relationship which is quite important. Please don't worry about this idiot lady, basically.
 
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I remember back during my third attempt (the one that led to me having to go to the hospital) being surprised to see the police there, alongside the paramedics. Their presence made me extremely uncomfortable, even if they didn't really do anything to me.

I personally hate the police and believe that they should be de-funded.
 
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I remember back during my third attempt (the one that led to me having to go to the hospital) being surprised to see the police there, alongside the paramedics. Their presence made me extremely uncomfortable, even if they didn't really do anything to me.

I personally hate the police and believe that they should be de-funded.
They were originally meant to protect property. It was never about protecting people.
 
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They were originally meant to protect property. It was never about protecting people.
They were never meant to protect and serve anyone besides the wealthy and privileged
 
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heyismeman

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Jan 29, 2025
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I mean i don't like them personally. It's like this, yea most cops are probably ok people, but the asshole percentage is 50% or more. That's a HUGE portion of the group so I personally don't like them
I mean i don't like them personally. It's like this, yea most cops are probably ok people, but the asshole percentage is 50% or more. That's a HUGE portion of the group so I personally don't like them
 
Rynalia

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Generally speaking?

I haven't had any "bad" experience with cops personally. My tolerance for bullshit could be considered fairly high, though. As long as there is no physicality or barking-level of speech it's pretty much whatever for me. I don't have the energy to get contentious with people I usually won't see again.

More of my problem comes from the people calling the cops on me. They tend to add too much spice to their report which definitely warps the initial few minutes I have with law enforcement. Phrasing and framing really do make a significant impact on a situation.

They waltz in pretty aggressively but simmer down a whole lot after about like 5 minutes because reality is far different from the report they get.

I don't want to generalize about cops because the fuck do I know about their lives and their own problems. Just like with coworkers, if shit happens, it'll leak into other parts of their life. As long as they don't take it out directly on me, I can tolerate someone being a bit of a sourpuss.

Tl;dr I'm neutral until bad shit happens to me.
 
SchizoGymnast

SchizoGymnast

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May 28, 2024
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There are two big problems that I'm seeing in this day and age, as someone that works in homeless services. One is that police heavily recruit white supremacists to their ranks, or at the very least don't filter them out. The other is that police are increasingly expected to solve problems that they were never intended to solve, mental health obviously being one of them and homelessness being another. What the hell do police know about CBT? And part of the job of police is to, essentially, remove people from their homes in an eviction proceeding so...🤷‍♀️
 
leloyon

leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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Fuck the police. Police are not human like you or me, judges, prosecutors, anyone involved with the justice system simply is not human morally speaking.

They have given up their humanity in exchange for megalomania and a superiority complex at being entirely subservient to, and replacing all morality, sense, critical thinking and decency (implying they had any of this to begin with<) with, the government and its laws, no matter how authoritarian or foolish. Somehow, instead of coming up with a moral compass based on critical thinking, lived experiences, compassion for your fellow man etc., opting for "whatever the government currently decides is okay is, and anything else is literally evil and deserves to have the book thrown at it" makes you better than everyone else.

Except for the part where the laws give people rights, then they see fit to write in whatever they want. If the law deems that the subject has these pesky "rights" things and that they cannot literally do whatever they see fit to the citizen, then they are more than happy to just decide that it's worth ignoring. The cops will lie about it, saying that akshually, they can do that (most citizens will assume that the cops know the law, and won't check the law for themselves to see that their rights are being violated and that the pigs are lying to their faces about it), and the judges will just decide to say that their sentence needs to act as a "deterrence", even if it's so minor that it isn't publicised whatsoever.

Yes, I have had experience with all of the above. No, I will not elaborate further. And if you think I should, go fuck yourself, I owe you nothing.
 
ididnotconsent

ididnotconsent

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Lot of edgy stuff in here but that's to be expected. They are just like any other profession, some good, some bad, and some downright evil.
 
fallingtopieces

fallingtopieces

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May 6, 2024
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ummm no, police are not just like any other profession, and it's not some good and some bad and some downright evil. there is nothing edgy here. the problems are systemic, for damn sure racism, violence, shootings. not to mention the dystopian march towards the militarization of the police. fascism is no longer hyperbole. dissent and free speech is already being suppressed, police certainly playing their part. Police protect and serve the wealthy.

"Police killed more people in 2024 than any year in more than a decade. Police have continued to kill at a similar rate in 2025."

 
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fedup1982

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I know in many countries police are used to respond to mental health crises and this approach has been criticized over the years by patients and mental health professionals alike. My first encounter with police was a wellness check when I was 13, and it terrified me having a strange man with a gun force his way into my home. Also as someone who has been known to sleep in her car, I get police knocking on my window every now and again asking me oddly personal questions. Then, when I was last hospitalized in 2020, I was told that if I did not go willingly the police would take me into PC.

So...do you guys have any experience with this? Opinions?
I feel like I've been very fortunate with police here in the UK. My last encounter they could have charged me with assault on a police officer but instead just took me to a psych ward. I'm very grateful they acted the way they did. My only gripe is that the handcuffs were excruciating
 
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