Attention for the purchase of N (Received the visit of the police this morning)

[sophie.zzz]

7. Le principal est la recherche autant que vous le pouvez. Il y a d'autres vendeurs en dehors de A et B.

Please, can you give us more details about that, how find them...?

Please, can you give us more details about that, how can we find them...?

 

[Rachel74]

Please, can you give us more details about that, how find them...?

I can't message you as you've hardly posted.

 

[sophie.zzz]

So bad... :( what can i do in order to talk with you ? Is there a minimum of posts ?

 

[Rachel74]

So bad... :( what can i do in order to talk with you ? Is there a minimum of posts ?

You need to post more think it's 10 posts x

 

[sophie.zzz]

Thanks you, i will try to access to PM and i i will contact you

 

[User name]

Has anyone received delivery from A since the raid last summer, or is it possible that the mail account has been taken over by the authorities? I do not want to encourage the repeated indirect promotion of the untrustworthy Chinese provider, but would rather ask if one should give up the hope of getting what was ordered afterwards?

 

[dysphoria]

From the French article,

"The Nembutal, was "shipped, under cover of a customs declaration, as a cosmetic," "

Do we know which seller this corresponds to? In fact PM me if you know, nobody should be talking publicly about specifics of how sellers operate, or their interactions with them.

What methods are they using to track buyers, and how can we stop that? Exit International? This site? It's not good to require direct, non-VPN access to sign up, so that is worrying in itself. Until that is resolved, I don't see how anyone can talk openly on here.

They seem to reference the customs declaration as if it's their common identifier, and it could make sense that a particular seller uses/used a particular shipping method with a particular declaration, and they just searched for any identical declaration after infiltrating some right-to-die forum, like this one, or by people not disposing of the packaging before committing suicide, it being found by police, passed on to these people. If that's the case then the sellers need to become unpredictable with all methods (especially on any declarations) and take advice on shipping from people who know what they're doing, because this looks amateur and completely unnecessary, cruel and immoral.

 

[SerenitySeeker]

From the French article,

"The Nembutal, was "shipped, under cover of a customs declaration, as a cosmetic," "

Do we know which seller this corresponds to? In fact PM me if you know, nobody should be talking publicly about specifics of how sellers operate, or their interactions with them.

What methods are they using to track buyers, and how can we stop that? Exit International? This site? It's not good for require non-VPN access to sign up, so that is worrying in itself. Until that is resolved, I don't see how anyone can talk openly on here.

They seem to reference the customs declaration as if it's their common identifier, and it could make sense that a particular seller uses/used a particular shipping method with a particular declaration, and they just searched for any identical declaration after infiltrating some right-to-die forum, like this one, or by people not disposing of the packaging before committing suicide, it being found by police, passed on to these people. If that's the case then the sellers need to become unpredictable with all methods (especially on any declarations) and take advice on shipping from people who know what they're doing, because this looks amateur and completely unnecessary, cruel and immoral.

At this point and with how long information has been free flowing, not talking freely on here won't make any difference smh. I didn't translate the article so this is my first time reading some of the contents and just from that small part confirms what has been apparent for months now. Things are way too compromised to be going about business as usual trying to receive N this particular way. My thoughts, looks like it's 50/50 chance of receiving it and things being ok or receiving it and getting a visit. Those odds just aren't enough.

 

[Shady33]

Un trafic de barbituriques démantelé en France

Les enquêteurs ont localisé 125 acheteurs de Pentobarbital, un puissant anesthésiant interdit en France mais utilisé pour l’aide au suicide.

www.lemonde.fr

Trafic de barbiturique : une vaste opération de démantèlement mobilise 300 policiers en France

#Police: SAISIES - Une centaine de perquisitions ont eu lieu mardi en France dans le cadre d'une enquête portant sur un trafic de Pentobarbital, un puissant anesthésiant parfois utilisé pour l'aide au suicide.

www.lci.fr

 

[Rachel74]

Has anyone received delivery from A since the raid last summer, or is it possible that the mail account has been taken over by the authorities? I do not want to encourage the repeated indirect promotion of the untrustworthy Chinese provider, but would rather ask if one should give up the hope of getting what was ordered afterwards?

Yes they have as I've been PM that person. The ones that lost their orders are out of pocket now and I doubt A will send to those buyers again in fear of getting caught as they will now be on the radar. Not sure if A is still in business, B is your next step and as he's been published as reliable in the PPHB then I'd say he's genuine. Philip N isn't going to ruin his reputation by giving details of a scammer out.

 

[Return2Dust]

There are a number of ways this could be happening.

1. Moneygram and Western Union are cooperating and under subpeona.
2. Public bitcoin exchanges are under subpoena and are targeting the history of any payments being sent to a specific recipient.
3. This host of this website is giving up the IP address for those who announce purchases. LE then contacts phone service, wireless providers or Google to determine where the IP address is located. (I think this one is less likely but entirely possible)

#3 is a possibility with a court order in the US. I don't know what's required to obtain the IP address outside the US.

 

[Joarga]

What happens if N of A is intercepted in customs?
Do you lose all the money?
Has it happened many times in Europe?

 

[LMFAO FOCKERS]

#3 is a possibility with a court order in the US. I don't know what's required to obtain the IP address outside the US.

I marked it as a low possibility because someone would have to mark all the accounts that say "I have N!" Then do a detailed search on all those people. I'm not sure LE would spend efforts here although there are many data extraction programs created in the last decade that could automate this process.

Secondly a court might force LE to limit the subpeona only to those accounts that have posted "I have N!" if that is the case then someone would either have to manually traverse these pages or design a web crawler to extract the info from the subform pages. This is something most LE won't have. However a government level organization such as CIA or FBI may have it and choose to use it but that still would require an entire unit devoted to the effort and I cant see this as important as using the resources to track known terrorists or other high level offenders.

 

[Roger]

Why France ?

High suicide rates ?

Very strict on counterfeit luxury goods ? (Concerned about possibility of fake cosmetics being imported) ?

Embarrassing rates of suicide in the police ?

 

[Shady33]

Why France ?

High suicide rates ?

Very strict on counterfeit luxury goods ? (Concerned about possibility of fake cosmetics being imported) ?

Embarrassing rates of suicide in the police ?

France is a depressive country, the suicide rate must be very high but no one talks about it. Many police officers commit suicide with their service weapons

 

[Rachel74]

What happens if N of A is intercepted in customs?
Do you lose all the money?
Has it happened many times in Europe?

You lose your money and your N. Not known of anyone formally arrested for it.

 

[Rachel74]

W

 

[Kingkelly]

France is a depressive country, the suicide rate must be very high but no one talks about it. Many police officers commit suicide with their service weapons

When did u order it

 

[azucaramargo]

France is a depressive country, the suicide rate must be very high but no one talks about it. Many police officers commit suicide with their service weapons

I read a case study in business school about this one French corporation in which so many employees killed themselves. The case study's author was suggesting that possibly the CEO's management style was so toxic that people's suicides could be attributed to him. Do you know about this? If so, could you remind me please?

 

[burnedCookie]

I read a case study in business school about this one French corporation in which so many employees killed themselves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/world/europe/france-telecom-trial.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48175938

 

[azucaramargo]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/world/europe/france-telecom-trial.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48175938

Thank you, burnedCookie!!! What an adroit researcher you are! Thank you for this!

 

[omoidarui]

Its real but im just saying this topic is full of affirmatives by dupe accounts xD mdr

@ MatthewGraham still dealing at $0.25 a treat ? Need to start raising so i can buy into the newest N scam that you post in the tailwind of stroking our fears

im basicly a seer

ps the account(s) that disagreed with me should be investigated xox

 

[Melinda]

This operation started in July of interpol and homeland security. They will not stop untill they have Alejandro. They are tracing everything to find the source.

AV is not in business anymore, I think someone else took over his identity. I ordered N from him back in June, lost my money and never received the package. The person who identified himself as AV seemed different, his English was really good and was constantly asking me for more money. He/She said that the reason why I did not receive the package is because it was confiscated, but then he said that he will try to send it again but I had to send more money. I told him that I will send the money only if I receive the package which I never did. I suggest that no one orders the product from AV, unless they want to loose a lot of money. Probably he was arrested.

 

[Throwawaysoul]

Are they still listing him in the PPH?

 

[SinisterKid]

People/members here have reported receiving N from A recently which is in direct contradiction of what you are saying. Anything you have to support your statement please.

 

[Dripping]

so sorry to hear that

 

[APharmaDestroyedLife]

The sad thing is there are people who want to go this way, but people who want to go will do it 1 way or another. so someone like me will probably end up just trying some other method and hope I don't end up with brain damage. The only thing that could make my life worse is being arrested and put in jail. I've really thought about all the info provided by members of this site on their experiencea with the 2 that are talked About the most... I've even made contact with both of them...but how do I know who these members are? how do I know the 2 people haven't had their email accounts hijacked by law enforcement?

is it worth the risk? a peaceful death at the risk of prison time...Perhaps I'll just roll the dice and try another more well known method and hope I don't end up a vegetable. it sucks that the government and law enforcement are allowed to tell us what we can and cant do with our own life...

And some good points were made about this site and not being able to sign up with VPN. I mean... why? That seems odd.

 

[Berlin76]

AV is not in business anymore, I think someone else took over his identity. I ordered N from him back in June, lost my money and never received the package. The person who identified himself as AV seemed different, his English was really good and was constantly asking me for more money. He/She said that the reason why I did not receive the package is because it was confiscated, but then he said that he will try to send it again but I had to send more money. I told him that I will send the money only if I receive the package which I never did. I suggest that no one orders the product from AV, unless they want to loose a lot of money. Probably he was arrested.

First of all did you get his email from the book. Because there many scams with his name only a letter different and your screwed.

It does happen with time he screws up orders have seen it multiple times.

He is not out of business he is still there.

Let me know pm

 

[Ark]

I am at the point of ordering with A. He is supposed to send me an address to send payment to very soon. He gave me specific instructions on how to send it and everything. He was also very accommodating and worked with me and my situation. Enough so it worried me a little bit. But, I need it to be real so bad I am trying to look past how easy it is starting to seem to be.

 

[Melinda]

First of all did you get his email from the book. Because there many scams with his name only a letter different and your screwed.

It does happen with time he screws up orders have seen it multiple times.

He is not out of business he is still there.

Let me know pm

Yes, I ordered from the right person. I don't think it's him. I ordered from the book PP. If it was AV I would have got the product. There were a lot of raids this year.He must have got caught.

This morning I received the visit of the police regarding the purchase of N. Be careful the seller A is not so secure !!!

Shady,
I believe that the police took over AV's identity. It's not safe to order from him. I paid for the product back in June and the product was confiscated at the border.