Help Attempting fsh on stairwell tonight

[tadoma]

@Suizident @JesiBel

Can't dm yet so that's why I'm doing this here. I'm planning to fsh on a stairwell later tonight (in six hours, or roughly 1am PDT). Will either of you be awake then?

Also someone lmk if I'm pinging wrong

 

[Pale_Rider]

Fsh?

 

[unevencompromise]

Whats FSH ?

 

[tadoma]

full suspension hanging

 

[Terrible_Life]

I wish you eternal freedom. I hope you'll get unconscious super fast.
I hope than soon I can also do my suicide by full hanging.

 

[Worndown]

Tie to the bottom of whatever supports are available. That will be the strongest / resist sheer most for this application.

 

[tadoma]

That's the plan, I'll send an image with the railing in around three hours when I get access

 

[TheHolySword]

I hope you find the peace you're looking for

 

[happysunnydayy]

how would we know you succeeded

 

[tadoma]

I'll keep you updated on the progress (haven't started yet since I'm waiting for it to be late at night). I think once I'm ready to go I'll make a post saying to assume I've succeeded if I don't post again after that point

 

[nihilisticmystics]

hi, just know someone thinking of u during ur attempt<3

 

[tadoma]

Update made it into the building!! I've attached pics of what I'm working with below.

According to the measure app on my iPhone, the stairwell at Point 1 in the first image is 7'2" (218cm), and the seat of the rolling chair is 50cm in the pic (can be adjusted down to 30cm). Brown part of the stairs is 14" (35cm). I am 5'6" (166 cm).

The rope is 50ft (15 meters) and 3/8 inches (nearly 10mm). It's a solid braided poly rope. It has a working load limit of 139 pounds, and I'm 121 pounds.

I'm planning on testing the noose with the water bottle.

Questions I have:

1. Should I use point 1 or point 2 as the anchor point? (see first pic)
2. I have vaseline petroleum jelly and dish soap. Which is recommended as lubricant?
3. +anything else about the measurements etc. I described above?

 

[nihilisticmystics]

point 2, dish soap

 

[darksouls]

I wish you the best, I hope you find relief from suffering

 

[somethingisntreal]

Wishing you the best! I will keep you in my thoughts today <3

 

[avalokitesvara]

I see you've been online just now. How are you doing? I'll be thinking of you.

 

[Macedonian1987]

I see you've been online just now. How are you doing? I'll be thinking of you.

If he is having second thoughts about ctb there is no shame at all in posponing it.

 

[tadoma]

Yeah I might do it tomorrow instead since I'm not feeling that confident

 

[Terrible_Life]

Update made it into the building!! I've attached pics of what I'm working with below.

According to the measure app on my iPhone, the stairwell at Point 1 in the first image is 7'2" (218cm), and the seat of the rolling chair is 50cm in the pic (can be adjusted down to 30cm). Brown part of the stairs is 14" (35cm). I am 5'6" (166 cm).

The rope is 50ft (15 meters) and 3/8 inches (nearly 10mm). It's a solid braided poly rope. It has a working load limit of 139 pounds, and I'm 121 pounds.

I'm planning on testing the noose with the water bottle.

Questions I have:

1. Should I use point 1 or point 2 as the anchor point? (see first pic)
2. I have vaseline petroleum jelly and dish soap. Which is recommended as lubricant?
3. +anything else about the measurements etc. I described above?

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Hey good that you wrote all this!!
The working load of the rope is way too less. Normally it should always be 1:5 so for example person x weight is 80kg then the rope should at least have a working load of 400kg!
I really wonder what kind of poly rope that is because normally they can hold much more weight.
my advice is please don't do it instead buy a 12mm polyester rope those have a working load from 2000kg!
When you hang there fully for a short moment when you step off the chair or whatever it is your weight will be higher than normal that is called dynamic load. Then it'll be more than the maximum this rope can hold so it could it could break.

 

[itsgone2]

Yeah I might do it tomorrow instead since I'm not feeling that confident

Fsh sucks in this way. I keep putting it off too. Getting mad at myself but its tough.

 

[Terrible_Life]

And i'd also recommend test your anchor point if it really can hold your weight

 

[tadoma]

Mhm, hopefully it goes better tomorrow though. I'll do more practical testing then! Gn everyone <3

 

[JesiBel]

I attach a photo regarding the staircase:

Spoiler

Your rope is fine.

Working load limit (WLL): It's usually 15-25% of the rope's tensile strength. This is a safety margin for daily wear, knots, and environmental conditions.

If you wish, you can use vaseline to lubricate the section of rope where the ligature with its knot (Arbor Knot) will go, so that it slides easily.

Perhaps you could stand on something without wheels, to be safer during the procedure. (If you change your mind, you can get off without the risk of it moving and you falling with the ligature already on the neck. And prevent an accident.)

 

[Terrible_Life]

I attach a photo regarding the staircase:

Spoiler

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Your rope is fine.

Working load limit (WLL): It's usually 15-25% of the rope's tensile strength. This is a safety margin for daily wear, knots, and environmental conditions.

If you wish, you can use vaseline to lubricate the section of rope where the ligature with its knot (Arbor Knot) will go, so that it slides easily.

Perhaps you could stand on something without wheels, to be safer during the procedure. (If you change your mind, you can get off without the risk of it moving and you falling with the ligature already on the neck. And prevent an accident.)

How can his rope be fine? Onnce you hang fully for a short moment yout weight will increase. So what if he will hang fully and his weight will be more than the maximum weight the rope can hold? Correct, it'll break!

 

[JesiBel]

How can his rope be fine? Onnce you hang fully for a short moment yout weight will increase. So what if he will hang fully and his weight will be more than the maximum weight the rope can hold? Correct, it'll break!

(OP mentions WLL)

Breaking Load/ Ultimate Load/ Breaking-Tensile Strength: offers a measure of a rope's maximum capability.

Working Load Limit (WLL): defines the limits within which the rope can be safely used.

"Working Load Limit" (WLL)

The safe maximum load a rope can carry in normal use, taking into account wear and environmental conditions.

Typically 15-25% of the tensile strength.

Accounts for real world factors like knots, bends, abrasion and weather.

Is designed to safely handle under normal working conditions. It takes into account safety factors, potential variations in loading, and other considerations to ensure that the equipment operates reliably without failure during its intended use.

It acts as the guiding metric for determining how much weight or stress a piece of equipment can handle regularly without risk of failure.

It's not the same as:

"Breaking Load" (also known as "Ultimate Load" or "Breaking/Tensile Strength")

The maximum load a rope can withstand before it breaks in controlled conditions.

Tested in the lab by applying increasing tension until the rope breaks.

Measured without knots, friction or environmental stress.

Refers to the maximum load or force that a piece of equipment or material can withstand before it fails or breaks. It is the point at which the material or equipment experiences permanent deformation or catastrophic failure.

Is the amount of stress or weight that a component can withstand before it fails or breaks. This measurement is determined under ideal conditions and is not meant for regular operational use.

Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4

 

[AreWeWinning]

Hey good that you wrote all this!!
The working load of the rope is way too less. Normally it should always be 1:5 so for example person x weight is 80kg then the rope should at least have a working load of 400kg!
I really wonder what kind of poly rope that is because normally they can hold much more weight.
my advice is please don't do it instead buy a 12mm polyester rope those have a working load from 2000kg!
When you hang there fully for a short moment when you step off the chair or whatever it is your weight will be higher than normal that is called dynamic load. Then it'll be more than the maximum this rope can hold so it could it could break.

How can his rope be fine? Onnce you hang fully for a short moment yout weight will increase. So what if he will hang fully and his weight will be more than the maximum weight the rope can hold? Correct, it'll break!

I see where the confusion is coming from — it seems you're mixing up the working load limit and the tensile strength (or breaking strength).

Working Load Limit (WLL): The weight that the rope can safely hold. The working load is about 15–25% of the tensile strength, or in other words, the rope's tensile strength is about 4x–7x the working load limit. As @JesiBel wrote, working load limit already takes into account the daily wear, knots, and environmental conditions. If the working load is around your body weight or higher, the rope is fine.

If OP's rope has a WLL of 139 pounds, its tensile strength is somewhere between 550 and 970 pounds. There is no way that a 3/8-inch poly rope has a tensile strength of only about 140 pounds. It seems that OP's rope is strong enough.

Tensile Strength: The force at which the rope is expected to actually break under laboratory conditions. It's usually 4x–7x the working load limit. If the working load limit is not specified for a rope, but only the tensile strength, you need to divide it by 7 (to be on the safe side, divide by 7, not by 4), and the number you get should be equal to or higher than your body weight.

1. Should I use point 1 or point 2 as the anchor point? (see first pic)
2. I have vaseline petroleum jelly and dish soap. Which is recommended as lubricant?
3. +anything else about the measurements etc. I described above?

Regarding anchor points: You can use either. That's a metal railing, screwed onto a metal frame, and by the look of it, the place was built according to serious safety standards. To be blunt, there's no fucking way it's going to break. In my opinion, you can tie the rope on it literally anywhere.

However, be careful you don't knock off the fire extinguisher (red pipe). That thing works by breaking when exposed to heat if there's a fire, and its end can very easily be knocked off by accident if you're not careful. If that happens, water will start pouring out, and people will likely come to investigate.

And yes, I wouldn't use a rolling chair. It's unstable and not safe.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Update made it into the building!! I've attached pics of what I'm working with below.

According to the measure app on my iPhone, the stairwell at Point 1 in the first image is 7'2" (218cm), and the seat of the rolling chair is 50cm in the pic (can be adjusted down to 30cm). Brown part of the stairs is 14" (35cm). I am 5'6" (166 cm).

The rope is 50ft (15 meters) and 3/8 inches (nearly 10mm). It's a solid braided poly rope. It has a working load limit of 139 pounds, and I'm 121 pounds.

I'm planning on testing the noose with the water bottle.

Questions I have:

1. Should I use point 1 or point 2 as the anchor point? (see first pic)
2. I have vaseline petroleum jelly and dish soap. Which is recommended as lubricant?
3. +anything else about the measurements etc. I described above?

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The required height of your anchor point depends on your body height if you want to hang full. The noose should be tight around yor neck when you stand on your chair and there should be no slack in the rope between the anchorpoint and the knot at the back of your neck. When you hang the rope will dig into your neck, the noose will constrict and this will cause a drop of about 20 cm. So your chair should be at least 30 cm high, better 50 cm because the thin rope looks rather elastic.

 

[Terrible_Life]

I see where the confusion is coming from — it seems you're mixing up the working load limit and the tensile strength (or breaking strength).

Working Load Limit (WLL): The weight that the rope can safely hold. The working load is about 15–25% of the tensile strength, or in other words, the rope's tensile strength is about 4x–7x the working load limit. As @JesiBel wrote, working load limit already takes into account the daily wear, knots, and environmental conditions. If the working load is around your body weight or higher, the rope is fine.

If OP's rope has a WLL of 139 pounds, its tensile strength is somewhere between 550 and 970 pounds. There is no way that a 3/8-inch poly rope has a tensile strength of only about 140 pounds. It seems that OP's rope is strong enough.

Tensile Strength: The force at which the rope is expected to actually break under laboratory conditions. It's usually 4x–7x the working load limit. If the working load limit is not specified for a rope, but only the tensile strength, you need to divide it by 7 (to be on the safe side, divide by 7, not by 4), and the number you get should be equal to or higher than your body weight.



Regarding anchor points: You can use either. That's a metal railing, screwed onto a metal frame, and by the look of it, the place was built according to serious safety standards. To be blunt, there's no fucking way it's going to break. In my opinion, you can tie the rope on it literally anywhere.

However, be careful you don't knock off the fire extinguisher (red pipe). That thing works by breaking when exposed to heat if there's a fire, and its end can very easily be knocked off by accident if you're not careful. If that happens, water will start pouring out, and people will likely come to investigate.

And yes, I wouldn't use a rolling chair. It's unstable and not safe.

Yes you're right I'm sorry. I was surprised how a poly rope can only hold so less weight but yes i was wrong about that. English isn't my mother language.