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WonderingSoul

WonderingSoul

Gamer
Dec 15, 2021
327
Nice try, but these methods can work with the right modifications. A blow to the head can work with a shotgun and the rope just needs to be set up right to actually hang.

"Please get help. Don't harm yourself. You are awesome". Cool, can I get a cookie with that ?
 
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LivideLamb

LivideLamb

I'm so decaying, feeling like an ashtray
Jan 5, 2020
368
There is no fool-proof method, we all know it. Like other has said before, those type of messages never help anyone, especially on a forum like here.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
12,101
You really need to understand the consequences of a suicide attempt.

And all of the consequences are horrible.
Even if the attempt succeeds in death? I mean- I agree- I don't want to maim myself- I want to kill myself. I'm kind of guessing this guy thinks death would also be a bad result though. I guess that depends on your beliefs... People who believe suicides go to hell will argue that a successful attempt is also a bad thing- plus- the obvious grief it leaves behind.

Still, I'd say the majority of people here are nearing their wits end- many don't even believe in hell- or- at least have serious doubts. They simply feel like they can't go on and they're way past the point where they have the energy or even belief that things can even get better.

I think you said these aren't your words? All quoted from Kevin Caruso? I think we all DO definitely need to be aware of the consequences of a failed attempt. Plus- what methods are likely to fail with life altering consequences. The last thing any of us want is to make matters worse for ourselves. Still- like others have said- that's a part of the function of sites like this- so we are able to research various methods and make decisions. I think impulsive, ill planned attempts are definitely very risky.

I personally think my method will be SN following all the protocols I can. I hope that will give me the best chance of success. I'd rather not contemplate failure but I have read of many failed SN attempts with fewer health consequences than other methods.

Also, just out of curiosity- do you agree with the blogger? Are we all 'awesome'?
 
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Shadow Life

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Sep 4, 2022
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Even if the attempt succeeds in death? I mean- I agree- I don't want to maim myself- I want to kill myself. I'm kind of guessing this guy thinks death would also be a bad result though. I guess that depends on your beliefs... People who believe suicides go to hell will argue that a successful attempt is also a bad thing- plus- the obvious grief it leaves behind.

Still, I'd say the majority of people here are nearing their wits end- many don't even believe in hell- or- at least have serious doubts. They simply feel like they can't go on and they're way past the point where they have the energy or even belief that things can even get better.

I think you said these aren't your words? All quoted from Kevin Caruso? I think we all DO definitely need to be aware of the consequences of a failed attempt. Plus- what methods are likely to fail with life altering consequences. The last thing any of us want is to make matters worse for ourselves. Still- like others have said- that's a part of the function of sites like this- so we are able to research various methods and make decisions. I think impulsive, ill planned attempts are definitely very risky.

I personally think my method will be SN following all the protocols I can. I hope that will give me the best chance of success. I'd rather not contemplate failure but I have read of many failed SN attempts with fewer health consequences than other methods.

Also, just out of curiosity- do you agree with the blogger? Are we all 'awesome'?
"Are we all awesome"? Heck, NO! If every person I'd met had been, I wouldn't have searched for or found myself on this site.
"Do I agree with the blogger?" No, I would never shame someone who was suicidal! At times, I am suicidal, too!
There is no fool-proof method, we all know it. Like other has said before, those type of messages never help anyone, especially on a forum like here.
I see that, now. I understand.
 
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actual_fox

Arcanist
Sep 15, 2022
469
Statistics. Most of suicides do not cause long term harm. The reason for places like this is to have people research methods so they do not fail by becoming paralyzed. It is a risk but It all can be avoided. You can learn how to do things right.

Suicide is better then living hellish/purgatory life. Death is not bad. It is only sure thing in life and you say It is bad.
 
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Wannagonow

Specialist
Nov 16, 2022
376
For most of us this is not our first rodeo. We may have made attempts or have at least thought about it incessantly. The risks of failure is understood. We don't need someone to try and "scare" us away from suicidal thoughts and desires. That's not helpful, nor will it work. I have yet to see someone tell another member here to harm themselves. This forum is the only place I know where one can feel supported by people who for the most part are like- minded. We all know where the Suicide helplines are if we feel the need to utilize them. Stop trying to scare people. You're not helpful.
 
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ryo the frog

ryo the frog

I'm in your house
Jun 27, 2022
71
Why? Do you think this site is solely for the purpose of encouraging people to die - like the journalists, governments, and pro-lifers say is the reason?
I think what they mean was that theres a Recovery page for this
 
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Unending

Enlightened
Nov 5, 2022
1,513
It is never okay to die by suicide.
I presume that you have never experienced the prolonged and extreme suffering required for most people to understand why this is such a shitty thing to come here and say. If I am wrong about that lack of experience then I am afraid that you lack empathy or are just strange. There are realities much worse than you could imagine that some people are faced to endure for far too long when stripped of the autonomy over their life (the one that they didn't make the choice to have in the first place). I understand that we live in a society where you are taught that this is the altruistic way to approach suicidal people but I do not understand why you think that it makes any sense to come here and say all this.
 
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Shadow Life

Member
Sep 4, 2022
61
To all the Haters...
Don't bother responding...I won't be returning. I have a life to LIVE :heart:

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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
"Don't bother responding...I won't be returning. I have a life to LIVE :heart:"

And so, their true colors have been revealed. Think we pretty much already knew this was a pro life attempt to scare us out of CTBing.
 
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Doom

Student
Nov 21, 2022
108
I hope this pro lifer doesn't get banned to soon because reading his comments is funny. It is unbelievable how deluded these people are.
 
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WorthlessTrash

Worthless
Apr 19, 2022
2,431
I hope this pro lifer doesn't get banned to soon because reading his comments is funny. It is unbelievable how deluded these people are.
Its even more funny that he did a piss poor job at hiding his real intentions.
 
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Mofreeko

Mofreeko

Arcanist
Apr 7, 2019
478
"Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never." Oh geez guys he's got us there. Shut it all down. Let's go frolic in a meadow.
 
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Un-

I'm a failure. An absolute waste. A LOSEr.
Apr 6, 2021
652
What pisses me off the most is how he refused to see any argument from our side. Why are people so awful? Why?

Why do you people try and get you when you're just minding your own business? And to make matters worse, they do not care about anyone other than themselves. If @Shadow Life cared at all, they would've tried to see what we see.

What is wrong with people?
 
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
763
To all the Haters...
Don't bother responding...I won't be returning. I have a life to LIVE :heart:
Says the person who spent their weekend copying and pasting suicide articles and memes.

I never believe the "I have a life" people. It's one of those phrases where if you have to say it, it's probably not true.
 
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Unending

Enlightened
Nov 5, 2022
1,513
Says the person who spent their weekend copying and pasting suicide articles and memes.

I never believe the "I have a life" people. It's one of those phrases where if you have to say it, it's probably not true.
To add to your point: This person visited a website for suicidal people and got all high n mighty when met with an obvious response to an unwanted and pointless post.
 
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Ta555

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2021
1,317
Wtf is this? I can make up random shit too.

Mary put her her head down in the train tracks. Unfortunately, the train stopped half way and now she walks around with her head hanging half off, constantly holding it in place.

Estevez tried to commit suicide with an exit bag using helium. Unfortunately, the regulator failed and he was found half-filled with helium and now constantly floats up like a balloon. He is in a care facility so he doesn't fly away.

Ciara was found part way through an SN attempt. She has organ damage and I s doomed to be salty for life. No one wants to be around her because she's constantly shedding salt. She lives alone in a care facility.

😞😞 Don't do it guys. It's not worth it.
 
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Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
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SamTam33

Warlock
Oct 9, 2022
763
Wtf is this? I can make up random shit too.

Mary put her her head down in the train tracks. Unfortunately, the train stopped half way and now she walks around with her head hanging half off, constantly holding it in place.

Estevez tried to commit suicide with an exit bag using helium. Unfortunately, the regulator failed and he was found half-filled with helium and now constantly floats up like a balloon. He is in a care facility so he doesn't fly away.

Ciara was found part way through an SN attempt. She has organ damage and I s doomed to be salty for life. No one wants to be around her because she's constantly shedding salt. She lives alone in a care facility.

😞😞 Don't do it guys. It's not worth it.
This cracked me all the way up.

I constantly have urges to crack jokes on here. But then I "read the room" and decide against it in most cases.

I loved this.
 
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hungry_ghost

hungry_ghost

جهاد
Feb 21, 2022
516
I see nothing wrong with the post as far as being a reminder of the risks, because yeah, as much I hate my life and this world, surviving an attempt and ending up like one of those people would be far, far worse than my current circumstances.

But shit, man... that guy who tried to kill himself with the shotgun... they could have let that guy die, for real. I don't believe they were trying to save him, I believe they were punishing him for trying to escape this world, by having him live with the results of his failure, worse off than he was before!
 
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conflagration

Experienced
Jul 29, 2022
207
Buddhism is supposed to be about compassion, not about scaring people.
 
Asiam

Asiam

Member
Nov 22, 2022
68

Attempted Suicide Horrors
by Kevin Caruso

The vast majority of people who attempt suicide do not actually die by suicide.
(Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never.
So please let me share with you some of the horrors of people who have attempted suicide, and were left in bad shape because of their attempt.

Amber jumped off of a cliff. She lived, but broke her back (and many other bones). And now she is paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair. She lives with her mother.

Martin shot himself in the head with a revolver. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. He is in a care facility.

Steven tried to hang himself. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. His mother and father now care for him.

Donna thought that taking an overdose of pills would be a peaceful and surefire way to end her life. She took the overdose, but she did not die. Her mother found her lying unconscious on the floor. Donna lapsed into a coma. She eventually came out of her coma, but suffered internal organ damage and brain damage. She is in a care facility.

James shot himself in the abdomen. He did not die, but he suffered massive injuries and lost a kidney.

Elizabeth jumped from a bridge. She landed on a rock and broke her back (and many other bones). She survived, but is paralyzed from the neck down and is in a care facility.

Charles cut his wrists. He survived but severed a tendon and damaged several nerves in his left arm. He has never regained full use of his left hand.

Roger thought a shotgun would blow his head clean off so he would die instantly. He placed the back of the gun on the ground and pulled the trigger. He lived. The gun moved as he was pulling the trigger and his brain was not touched, but the tremendous muzzle blast destroyed his face--everything just below his eyes was gone, including his mouth, chin, nose, and cheeks. After innumerable surgeries, Roger still lives with horrible disfigurement.

And, unfortunately, there are many, many more sad stories like these.

Suicide is a very, very, very serious thing. It is never okay to die by suicide. And for many people who attempt suicide, the result is a paralyzed or disfigured body, or permanent brain damage.

Please don't be one of those people.

Please get help.

You really need to understand the consequences of a suicide attempt.

And all of the consequences are horrible.

Instead of reaching for an instrument to harm yourself, reach for your phone.
Call 911 or 1-800-SUICIDE and get the help that you need.
Or click below for a list of suicide hotlines

Suicide Hotlines

Take care.
And remember, people care for you, and people want to help you.
Don't harm yourself. Don't ever, under any circumstances, harm yourself.
You are awesome! And don't forget it.
I agree with "please get help, people want to help you"
If they're so concerned something will go wrong, these people should help us by helping to ensure we die in the most garuanteed and peaceful way possible. Why can't they respect a choice. We don't choose to take these risks, the fact that the choice to die is so frowned upon has built rules that force us to take risks like this. That is the real crime. If you want to help, help the person solve the problems leading them to feel this way (homelessness, disfigurement, debt, medical disease if there are treatments available pay for it) and if they choose to die because there is no cure, help them do it safely!
 
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brokensea

Arcanist
Aug 4, 2022
405
Wtf is this? I can make up random shit too.

Mary put her her head down in the train tracks. Unfortunately, the train stopped half way and now she walks around with her head hanging half off, constantly holding it in place.

Estevez tried to commit suicide with an exit bag using helium. Unfortunately, the regulator failed and he was found half-filled with helium and now constantly floats up like a balloon. He is in a care facility so he doesn't fly away.

Ciara was found part way through an SN attempt. She has organ damage and I s doomed to be salty for life. No one wants to be around her because she's constantly shedding salt. She lives alone in a care facility.

😞😞 Don't do it guys. It's not worth it.
Lmfaoooo!! Brilliant! 😂
To add to your point: This person visited a website for suicidal people and got all high n mighty when met with an obvious response to an unwanted and pointless post.
Yeah the fake concern sure got ugly quick lol. Just shows the people posting and saying this crap really want a pat on the back more than they care anything about you.
 
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Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
3,558
Just poking in to say I noticed this thread and I'm calling BS on the OP, they are definitely positing the standard pro-life "don't you dare ctb its not allow, you live the way I say" even if they say otherwise.

It might be nice if people actually helped suicidal people, but the whole system is shit at least where I'm at. Gotta make own way through it all.
To all the Haters...
Don't bother responding...I won't be returning. I have a life to LIVE :heart:
Their true intentions pretty obvious with this statement even if I would've known either way, as DDTD(hope they're ok) and others mentioned above. Really weak to come here under false pretences and try to act high and mighty.
 
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RainAndSadness

Administrator
Jun 12, 2018
2,181
Imagine coming to this forum just to guilt-trip, gaslight and blame suicidal people. I see you're a candidate for MAiD. So you want to exercise you right to die and before that happes, you turn around and shame other people who want to do the same? People who don't have the privilege to apply for assisted suicide because their own country outlaws that practice, people who therefore need to find other ways to exercise their basic human rights. And that's one of the reason why people come to this forum. Are you proud of yourself? And here is the problem, you say suicide isn't the solution - okay but instead of dedicating yourself to the recovery section until you leave, trying to help people who are suffering, you attack them and then you run away like a coward, self-banning in the process. Let me guess, helping people is too much work for you, right? You'd rather take the lazy route and point fingers? Yeah, I'm familiar with your type. And honestly, given your lack of empathy in your posts, I don't think you're capable of helping anyone anyway. I hope you look into the mirror once before you leave. It's deeply needed.

To all the Haters...
Don't bother responding...I won't be returning. I have a life to LIVE :heart:
Good. Then my own application for it, next year, has some hope of being accepted, too. Of course, with the continued interference from right-to-lifers, maybe not.. [...]

Either a compulsive liar or simply a repulsive personality. Either way, good riddance.
 
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abcd37477337

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OP only means good. I wonder OP if you could feel our pain, maybe you would have a different stance?
 
BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,801

Attempted Suicide Horrors
by Kevin Caruso

The vast majority of people who attempt suicide do not actually die by suicide.
(Let me emphatically remind you that it is never okay to die by suicide or attempt suicide. Never.
So please let me share with you some of the horrors of people who have attempted suicide, and were left in bad shape because of their attempt.

Amber jumped off of a cliff. She lived, but broke her back (and many other bones). And now she is paralyzed from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair. She lives with her mother.

Martin shot himself in the head with a revolver. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. He is in a care facility.

Steven tried to hang himself. He survived, but suffered extensive brain damage. His mother and father now care for him.

Donna thought that taking an overdose of pills would be a peaceful and surefire way to end her life. She took the overdose, but she did not die. Her mother found her lying unconscious on the floor. Donna lapsed into a coma. She eventually came out of her coma, but suffered internal organ damage and brain damage. She is in a care facility.

James shot himself in the abdomen. He did not die, but he suffered massive injuries and lost a kidney.

Elizabeth jumped from a bridge. She landed on a rock and broke her back (and many other bones). She survived, but is paralyzed from the neck down and is in a care facility.

Charles cut his wrists. He survived but severed a tendon and damaged several nerves in his left arm. He has never regained full use of his left hand.

Roger thought a shotgun would blow his head clean off so he would die instantly. He placed the back of the gun on the ground and pulled the trigger. He lived. The gun moved as he was pulling the trigger and his brain was not touched, but the tremendous muzzle blast destroyed his face--everything just below his eyes was gone, including his mouth, chin, nose, and cheeks. After innumerable surgeries, Roger still lives with horrible disfigurement.

And, unfortunately, there are many, many more sad stories like these.

Suicide is a very, very, very serious thing. It is never okay to die by suicide. And for many people who attempt suicide, the result is a paralyzed or disfigured body, or permanent brain damage.

Please don't be one of those people.

Please get help.

You really need to understand the consequences of a suicide attempt.

And all of the consequences are horrible.

Instead of reaching for an instrument to harm yourself, reach for your phone.
Call 911 or 1-800-SUICIDE and get the help that you need.
Or click below for a list of suicide hotlines

Suicide Hotlines

Take care.
And remember, people care for you, and people want to help you.
Don't harm yourself. Don't ever, under any circumstances, harm yourself.
You are awesome! And don't forget it.
Based.
 

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