Discussion Are you jealous of people with terminal illness?

[Fadeawaaaay]

I am.

 

[Darkover]

living with a brain injury is a living hell it's been nearly 6 years now, it would be much better to have cancer and die from it, i wouldn't go for any treatment for cancer has i don't want to hold onto life

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

living with a brain injury is a living hell it's been nearly 6 years now, it would be much better to have cancer and die from it, i wouldn't go for any treatment for cancer has i don't want to hold onto life

I'm sorry… That sounds excruciating… I can see why you're here on this forum…

 

[Pluto]

It never ceases to amaze me that so many people are forced to die against their will, while others (us) are forced to live against our will.

 

[eryu]

I am, I admit. Yes, it's true that I wouldn't want to be in their shoes entirely. I wouldn't want some life that I liked or still had hope for and have to suffer news of imminent death. And all the physical pain, of course.
But when I think of what they have, I am thinking what it would mean for me. Not them.

I might have long lasting, excruciating pain. But the result I wanted would be inevitable.
I could do what I've always done and wait and suffer but this time it would end after a relatively short time instead of stretching on into uncertain future with endless problems.

 

[Shadowplay]

Yeah someone at work has brain cancer and has a year to live; I wish I could swap with him; win-win.

 

[callme]

Nobody says it, but if there's a reason you envy the terminally ill, it's because of the guaranteed sympathy you don't get now, honest.

 

[ondodera]

Not sure, feels kind of wrong to say yes? Kind of feels like I'm undermining what they're going through, but if I could switch place with someone terminally ill who actually wants to live then definitely.

 

[Painless_end]

I did sometimes. But honestly, they probably go through hell. I have realized it's not worth it to envy them, even if you want to die.

I want to add by saying, instead of all the horrible effects of terminal illness, it would be better if I could just drop dead on the spot right now or die in my sleep. Which is of course, the ideal that all of us want.

 

[Shadowplay]

Nobody says it, but if there's a reason you envy the terminally ill, it's because of the guaranteed sympathy you don't get now, honest.

Now I just wanna go.

 

[Someone123]

The terminally ill have it easy compared to many people here- they will get pain meds when needed and will have family around them when they pass in a comfortable bed- I have a reltive with cancer and I told his wife point blank that he has it a million times better then I do and she wouldn't even deny it because she knows how bad this is.

 

[Shadowplay]

The terminally ill have it easy compared to many people here- they will get pain meds when needed and will have family around them when they pass in a comfortable bed- I have a reltive with cancer and I told his wife point blank that he has it a million times better then I do and she wouldn't even deny it because she knows how bad this is.

Oh heck yeah! Imagine being comfy, surrounded by loved ones and heavily medicated instead of my hopefully rather tawdry end if illegally buying N. online and dying alone in some cheap shitty hotel. I think the one good thing is that I know precisely when I am going so I can pick my soundtrack - yay!

 

[Dystopia]

I wouldn't want to be them personally but maybe I envy the fact that group is eligible for euthanasia in lots of places and can say goodbye to loved ones before it happens whilst we have to go off and be alone and misunderstood or even demonised to kill ourselves

I wouldn't want to be in their shoes though as reaching potentially a very old age and having a terminal illness sounds horrific and my life is bad enough as it is.

 

[callme]

Now I just wanna go.

Under your scenario, you will have a year to live. You know when it ends- peace of mind. Under his condition, it is a horrifying death, hanging on the edge in a terrible impending doom and you have absolutely no control on when it ends, which in their case coupled with physical pain must be excrutiating like self-immolation.

It is unspeakable.

I find birth similar in a way. I don't think giving birth is the most painful thing, but the impeding worry, the feeling of it, a possibility of failing and doing something horrible if birth goes wrong because human existence is the only truly human thing we have while alive and especially that YOU will have failed is terrible. Maybe to outsiders it's just a miscarriage, but to you as a mother, you are a murderer.

Isn't that how postpartum depression might start btw? Anyway, I mean those two hard to pin down feelings can't be understood that's why so many shitters bullshit with their softening crap, "he was dead for 5 minutes but came back, miracle" exists. Truly horrifying but very real, so the terminally ill are in no way to be envied.

Otherwise we also delegitimize their whole life and the real essence of all life - birth and death.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

Not in the sense that you might think. I am not jealous of the fact that they are about to die, since they will suffer and most likely won't decide for themselves when to die. I am jealous of them since they most likely made it to old age (didn't kill themselves early, like I have to). This implies that they were able to study, work, have romantic relationships, be neurotypical, have optimism bias, placebo and religion, etc.

 

[Elegy]

No. I've been pissing blood. Possibly passing stones or, pancreatic, kidney, bladder, prostate or liver cancer. Hurts like hell when I pee and I do not envy myself nor anyone else with terminal illness. Much prefer a quick peaceful painless way out.

 

[Rational man]

I am.

I have a rare endocrine disease which will kill me eventually but i have other plans. I watched my mother die horribly with cancer and it was a long drawn- out painful end. So im not jealous, but i was releaved to see my mum finally find peace, as i will too one day.

 

[Account unknown]

I am.

Yes and it's horrible to say. I'm not religious at all but I can't even count the amount of times I've spent my night at absolute rock bottom praying to a god I don't even believe in to give me a terminal illness so I can leave without the consequences of CTB on my family.

 

[callme]

I have a rare endocrine disease which will kill me eventually but i have other plans. I watched my mother die horribly with cancer and it was a long drawn- out painful end. So im not jealous, but i was releaved to see my mum finally find peace, as i will too one day.

There, finally somebody lives up to their (user)name

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

I am but only in the sense that I want to die, I do not want to suffer. I'd be fine with being diagnosed with a terminal cancer if I was then able to access euthanasia in Switzerland for example, but not if I was denied that opportunity and had to have a strung out and undignified death in a hospice

 

[Rational man]

The terminally ill have it easy compared to many people here- they will get pain meds when needed and will have family around them when they pass in a comfortable bed- I have a reltive with cancer and I told his wife point blank that he has it a million times better then I do and she wouldn't even deny it because she knows how bad this is.

Have you seen someone die in the way you describe ?!. If not, may I suggest you do some voluntary work at your local hospice or other care facility. I've seen my mum die horribly. Not to mention loss of autonomy and dignity, the meds were insufficient. Being surrounded by family!!!. Im not sure what is worse!. Im not comparing you by rhe way, not judging, but we die our own way dont we!

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Apologies. I was glib. Envious of those with a quickly impending terminal illness and loaded up on meds. My mother spent years dying of cancer and it was excruciating.

 

[FuneralCry]

I am only envious of people who are dead. They are at peace and they are free from this horrible world. Many people with terminal illnesses are experiencing extreme pain and suffering. That is not something to be envious of. The human body is an horrific prison which can torture us. Extremely cruel how people are denied euthanasia.

 

[Elegy]

I am only envious of people who are dead. They are at peace and they are free from this horrible world. Many people with terminal illnesses are experiencing extreme pain and suffering. That is not something to be envious of. The human body is an horrific prison which can torture us. Extremely cruel how people are denied euthanasia.

It's all about the money hunny. My 90 year old mom has been a vegetable invalid for 4 years now. She can't speak, she can't feed herself, she soils her shorts. She does not know who she is anymore. Or who I am. Her son. Why not put the old girl out to pasture? Peacefully and painlessly?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is why.

A number of "kind caring" people, doctors, caregivers, etc, are profiting from her eternal agony.
It is becoming increasingly apparent to me,
people are indeed $$$ profiting from my mother's endless suffering.
Point Blank. If she dies.... They're out of a paycheck.
Her doctors inject her with chemicals that could probably bring the dead back to life.
Like in the Re-animator movie.
More money for them.

Let Nature take its course I say.
But they don't agree with me.
I'm thinking, she's being used like a fuckin lab rat.
And if I were able to be there in person......
heads would roll

Doc, you got miraculous modern medicine that is keeping my mom alive forever and a day??
when she should have died FOUR years ago. If Nature had been allowed to take its course.
Impressive.
How about I shove that shit up yer ass, and burn your lab down to the ground.

 

[Someone123]

Have you seen someone die in the way you describe ?!. If not, may I suggest you do some voluntary work at your local hospice or other care facility. I've seen my mum die horribly. Not to mention loss of autonomy and dignity, the meds were insufficient. Being surrounded by family!!!. Im not sure what is worse!. Im not comparing you by rhe way, not judging, but we die our own way dont we!

Yes I know that dying of a terminal illness is very painful, I've seen a few relatives go through this and I've been there throughout the time. It is my opinion that depression at its worst is worse than that- I don't want to spell out all the details because it's too painful to share some of it, I wrote it out but it was too much to share. I would trade places if I had the chance- I might regret the choice, but I doubt it.

 

[CTBer]

I'm jealous of stillborn.

 

[make_00]

yeah
I wish I could trade places with a terminally ill person who wants and deserves to live

Nobody says it, but if there's a reason you envy the terminally ill, it's because of the guaranteed sympathy you don't get now, honest.

not gonna lie this never occurred to me... and I envy the terminally ill
I'd much rather be on my own and secluded away from other people to die of it, better if nobody even knew I was sick? dying would be painful but seeing my family in pain would probably be on par

 

[Zzzzz]

I would accept cancer. Even though it's difficult. They at least can receive euthanasia if they are terminal.

 

[Manaaja]

No. I wanna go "with my boots on".

 

[motel rooms]

No. There are far better fantasies: being shot in the brainstem by an incel in a tower, dying in your sleep from a rare heart condition, having a stroke that kills you instantly, getting squashed by a boulder while hiking, being decapitated from the back by a deranged Japanese guy convinced he's a samurai, falling off a ladder; the list of quick, unexpected deaths is endless...