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Anonymoussn

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May 12, 2020
381
So you're saying, that the brain is fine, until the heart is dead beyond recovery?
I don't know which parts of the body are affected specifically - but I can only assume that the brain doesn't get oxygen deprived before death has already occurred, as we've yet to encounter any evidence of this, and I have never seen any scholarly suggestions that this happens in any medical journals or articles or anything either. The fact that the skin turns blue/grey is because of the oxygen deprivation, which is generally present in many parts of the body, which presumably suggests that the deprivation in oxygen is widespread, and thus other parts of the body are massively affected before the brain is.
 
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rt1989526

Paragon
Aug 2, 2020
935
Derailed thread lol. I don't think SN is 100% like the op asked for.

No for sure it's not, not saying that. Just clarifying the brain damage thing which is a new one.
 
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Anonymoussn

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May 12, 2020
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@lem Below is an interesting thread on the topic. Basically your other organs died first, as I theorized.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-does-sn-not-cause-brain-damage.30339/
 
Sarahlynn

Sarahlynn

Deep breath, stand back, it's time.
Aug 19, 2020
127
I believe sodium azide is 100% as there is no antidote.

This was my preferred method, but I am not so sure anymore (I have access). I have read that it is not 100%, Like this case, where she used way more than what is considered normal, lethal dose, and still survived. As someone who is terrified of surviving an attempt, I am scared to use sodium azide.

And I also worry about the location and the people who find you. You have to be very careful to not spill, and make sure that the first people do not try to resuscitate you, or you might end up killing them as well. I don't want to hit the news, with sodium azide you probably will. Many choose to do it in a hotel, and they have to evacuate the whole building, send in the bomb squad, a lot of hassle because you choose to die there like that. Most famous example, was recently also a case in Stockholm. Will certainly not do this at home!

There is also the risk of explosion, you have to get special water to dissolve it, as it gets explosive in contact with metals.

Sorry, major infodump, have been investigating this heavily as I originaly chose this as my method. But I don't know anymore...
 
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DontHaveImagination

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Aug 5, 2020
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I find the Lostallhope website to be very informative in regards to success rate and potential harm of the common methods. Not sure if it is exactly what you are looking for though.

My biggest fear is also something like paralysis happening. Then you are stuck until you can achieve natural death, which could be decades away, and you'll be in a much worse state than the original. Or god forbid, Locked-in syndrome. That is my absolute worst nightmare.

Yeah I've browsed that site before, but finding it hard to settle on a method. I tend to see train, guns and very high location jumping as the most reliable ones that I probably couldn't mess up, but the first one I won't do and the latter two are hard to access. And that locked-in syndrome, hadn't even thought of that one. I was wrong when I called paralysis the worst case scenario.
 
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rt1989526

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Aug 2, 2020
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@lem Below is an interesting thread on the topic. Basically your other organs died first, as I theorized.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/why-does-sn-not-cause-brain-damage.30339/

Thanks for sharing. Interesting info.
 
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Sarahlynn

Sarahlynn

Deep breath, stand back, it's time.
Aug 19, 2020
127
Yeah I've browsed that site before, but finding it hard to settle on a method. I tend to see train, guns and very high location jumping as the most reliable ones that I probably couldn't mess up, but the first one I won't do and the latter two are hard to access. And that locked-in syndrome, hadn't even thought of that one. I was wrong when I called paralysis the worst case scenario.

Yeah, I also struggle with deciding. I am leaning towards multiple drug combo now, with propranolol as the main, but I really want to drink my fancy bottle of champagne as I go, and that seems to possibly counteract the propranolol effect. Haha its kinda stupid, guess I am not ready at the moment as my champagne priority is what's stopping me :haha:

A while ago I read a really interesting (but terrifying!) article on locked-in syndrome. Turns out some of the people they thought was in a completely vegetative starte, actually had the syndrom. I guess having the syndrome is bad enough in itself, but if people are aware you are still present, they will try to provide some stimulation. Laying there, sorta awake, and no one even aware that you are, thats the worst form of torture in my mind.

Two things are stopping me from CTB, my family, and the horrors a failed attempt can cause.
 
aminend

aminend

Warlock
May 24, 2020
747
Hey, I've been thinking a lot about who I am and what I want. And I've realized that I don't want anything but to be with a few specific people. I live in the past, and my present is filled with ocd and hopelessness.

nobody in my life wants me around I'm completely alone. So, I'm going to ctb. I'm thinking this Saturday would be best.

im just trying to find out if there are any methods that are 100% sure to take my life. I don't wanna wake up and find I'm still alive.

if there are any methods that ensure death please let me know.
Potassium cyanide and shotgun are 100%
 
GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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This was my preferred method, but I am not so sure anymore (I have access). I have read that it is not 100%, Like this case, where she used way more than what is considered normal, lethal dose, and still survived. As someone who is terrified of surviving an attempt, I am scared to use sodium azide.

And I also worry about the location and the people who find you. You have to be very careful to not spill, and make sure that the first people do not try to resuscitate you, or you might end up killing them as well. I don't want to hit the news, with sodium azide you probably will. Many choose to do it in a hotel, and they have to evacuate the whole building, send in the bomb squad, a lot of hassle because you choose to die there like that. Most famous example, was recently also a case in Stockholm. Will certainly not do this at home!

There is also the risk of explosion, you have to get special water to dissolve it, as it gets explosive in contact with metals.

Sorry, major infodump, have been investigating this heavily as I originaly chose this as my method. But I don't know anymore...

This was a great info dump. If you're so inclined, I'd encourage you to make a thread about it with Sodium Azide in the title so folks who research the method can easily find it.
 
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Anonymoussn

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May 12, 2020
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Potassium cyanide and shotgun are 100%
Shotguns are not 100%. Thinking that is a great way to end up alive with a disfigurement.

Go look up Katie Stubblefield if you're interested.

As long as you do it correctly though you should be good unless your gun malfunctions.
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
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With proper use most methods would be 100%. Human error is the major limiting factor, and at that point it's very personal what works best for each of us.
 
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Deleted member 17949

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Any method done perfectly with no interference could be argued to be 100% effective, but of course very few people can manage to ctb so well. Some methods are more effective than others because the precision needed to do them well along with the chance of interference and circumstances you are unable to control are all fairly low. Whatever you do, research well and check everything carefully.
 
AlreadyGone

AlreadyGone

Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
917
No. For every method, there is at least a 1% chance of failure.
 

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