how to do it if they aren't 100% ready
this is just not how suicidality works. it ebbs and flows and its totally unique for every individual, up to and even in the moment. at least for me, i don't expect to even be 100% in those final moments-but yep i'm as serious as i can possibly be. when i stopped having these thoughts and had a serious chance of recovery, i stopped using the forum. and i think most other users are the same. there are wayyyyy too many other things to do in this world than waste time if someone doesn't really wanna be here. lots of people have some really serious shit to process and this site helps a lot with that.
OP you kinda started this thread off in a "why aren't more people dying" kinda way, but have gone on to explore other thoughts-most of which are shared by a lot of ppl here. this community, just like suicidal ideation itself, is extremely complex and intricate, and sometimes just experiencing and observing helps to understand more than leaning so heavily on logic and forcing things to make sense. you just can't shove stuff about this topic into a box-there aren't a ton of "rules" for how to talk about this shit.
basically, this is a place for people in some of the darkest places of their lives to have some sort of common ground, a non-judgemental meeting place. i've seen people be extremely supportive towards each other here. i *DID NOT* expect to see so many people here be so sincere and caring. try to give a little bit and you'll also get some back, i'm sure of it.
also, just a suggestion-try not to have any expectations about what this forum "should be" and just take it for what it is. it's helped me and a lot of others indescribably in ways our closest friends or family cannot, nor anywhere else on the internet.
it seems shock value gets people to respond and not ignore you.
dude, no. i've been off and on this forum for 2+ years, and recently becoming more active, i definitely feel if people have something at all to say, any way to respond, they typically will. it doesn't really seem like people get banned easily, only as a last resort.
i feel for you-i am sorry you are suffering. believe me, i am too, GREATLY, and we all are, obviously. because of that, i would recommend resetting your exceptions of anyone on this forum to zero. it's hard to expect anyone else to do things for you, period-much less when we know they are in really dark places like ourselves.
One final thing-at the risk of sounding like a dick-your phrasing/grammar is hard to understand somewhat and might be part of the reason you don't get as many responses as you would like. Just a thought. I hope for the best for you, your experience here, and for your life/future.