Are parents who comitt suicide selfish?

[Mashedout]

Parents are inherently selfish by forcing additional beings to suffer in this far from perfect scenario, and then doubly so by leaving before their obligations are fulfilled. They deserve the worst.

 

[freedompass]

All I wanna say is this. I have a LOT of sympathy for the antinatalist position. But I am a parent of one child myself. It was never a choice for me, I was psychotic and 'out of it' at the time of the conception and pregnancy and didn't realise my condition till it was too late to terminate. It does happen. Rape pregnancies/babies are also a thing. An awful lot of children are essentially accidents. It's incredibly easy to fall pregnant. I have had 3 abortions myself. Not at all proud of my irresponsibility/promiscuity, it is what it is. I just wanted to put that out there. All 'parents' do not 'choose' to give birth.

 

[xo777]

I hope the siblings rot in hell. Three of them are paedophiles of the worst kind themselves and out of those three only one was molested. The parent I have no clue if it was ever molested. I was abused by the parent and the siblings they were horrific monsters. I was abused in different ways by most of them. The elder brother 17 years older than me used to rape me from age 2. Maybe even 1 I don't know but I think it was around 2. He would have been 19. He used to beat the living daylights out of me. Imagine an infant being beaten by a grown man. The siblings are not victims but abusers themselves. Myself and my other sibling who is were molested and an adult sibling.
They preyed on us the parent and the other siblings because of our disabilities and nothing else. The ones who weren't disabled were never molested

You both deserved so much better than what you had to go through. I am so sorry for the pain you experienced.

 

[Zeus35]

I don't think it's selfish. However I don't know the individual circumstances either. In general I feel the suicide is a deeply personal action. Every person is different with different limits and different feelings. When leaving a child or children behind is involved, it does add a lot more complexity to the decision. I know someone who has put off ctb because they had a child. But they also adopted many unhealthy coping mechanisms to deal with their almost constant wanting of ctb. And tbh, kids aren't dumb, they picked up on those things.
So in closing, it may be selfish and it may not be selfish. I don't know what each person's breaking point is.

I think it's selfish to create children with a child abuser being fully aware of that and then abandoning them. The first thing was creating me with a child abuser. The second thing was leaving me to send for myself with the child abuser. I was molested, beaten, emotionally abused a few times a week and sometimes just once a week for the first almost decade of my childhood. Then I went into foster care. My parent was extremely selfish. When that child gets bullied because of what that parent did, or gets questioned by children on mother's or father's Day why they aren't making a card (they're so young they don't even know what a mom or dad is depending on who ended their life) and when that child grows up questioning who's going to walk them down the isle that's selfish. People shouldn't be having ten children and then ending their lives they shouldn't be having children at all on that case. I'm glad the pathetic moron ended it's life anyway. After all it did procreate me with a paedophile child abuser it knew about the abuse but had suspicions about the sexual abuse so didn't know that for definite. If that's not bad enough I don't know what is. Imagine creating children with a child abuser and then abandoning them. My parent was not just creating children but creating innocent victims.

Being a suicidal parent of a 12 yo I can totally relate. The emotional pain can get so intense and overwhelming that nothing else matters anymore. You just want a way out without thinking about consequences. It doesn't feel egoistic at all at the moment .

Yes but you wouldn't ctb if your partner was a child molester or serial child abuser. My parent who lived was those things so my deceased parent didn't just create children but created innocent victims too. Although people who create children with paedophiles have issues so I'm not surprised the low life ended it's life. There's a difference in your situation. You wouldn't ctb and leave your child all alone with an abusive parent by doing so. I was left with that.