Story Anyone seen this? SS in the news😡

[Circles]

So we have traitors and imposters here then. Time to move to TOR?

We've been having imposters here for a while now collecting information and sources especially considering Kelli from fixthe26 and her goons have said they've been doing this for almost a year. And I bet there's active imposters still here lurking and waiting.

 

[Catloaf]

You would think that after 'analyzing more than 1.2 million messages from the site' they would have had some compassion. How can you spend months investigating here, reading members' stories, witnessing how people support each other and still shit out such a biased article?

 

[Circles]

You would think that after 'analyzing more than 1.2 million messages from the site' they would have had some compassion. How can you spend months investigating here, reading members' stories, witnessing how people support each other and still shit out such a biased article?

Because from what I've gathered from looking at their twitters, some of the fixthe26 folks had a family member kill themselves and I'm assuming they were on here. Grief blinds you.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

You would think that after 'analyzing more than 1.2 million messages from the site' they would have had some compassion. How can you spend months investigating here, reading members' stories, witnessing how people support each other and still shit out such a biased article?

Journalism has become increasingly about advocacy, pushing a political agenda of some sort, rather than balance or insight or looking at things from a different point of view. A journalist at the New York Times who steps out of line won't last very long. A lot of groupthink over there.

 

[BeautifulMosaics]

You would think that after 'analyzing more than 1.2 million messages from the site' they would have had some compassion. How can you spend months investigating here, reading members' stories, witnessing how people support each other and still shit out such a biased article?

What an excellent question.

 

[whitefeather]

Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die (Published 2021)

It has the trappings of popular social media, a young audience and explicit content on suicide that other sites don’t allow. It is linked to a long line of lives cut short.

www.nytimes.com

THIS ARTICLE WENT VIRAL... READ IT ON YAHOO NEWS.

 

[wickedbyessie]

Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die (Published 2021)

It has the trappings of popular social media, a young audience and explicit content on suicide that other sites don’t allow. It is linked to a long line of lives cut short.

www.nytimes.com

I heard about SS from "The Daily" podcast feature on this, the 33-minute segment, which is on spotify/is googleable for those who don't subscribe to read the article. Did y'all know you can actually email [email protected]? Maybe if lots of us expressed how damaging their segment was, they'd have to make a counter statement about it. I had never heard of this site but the stance taken by the Times was so appalling and disturbing to me that I joined and I've been reading threads all week. I also emailed them a full single spaced page about how gross I thought their public position was. Attached my statement if anyone's interested. But more than anything think it'd be cool if massive amounts of people emailed them too.

 

[Simba]

I heard about SS from "The Daily" podcast feature on this, the 33-minute segment, which is on spotify/is googleable for those who don't subscribe to read the article. Did y'all know you can actually email [email protected]? Maybe if lots of us expressed how damaging their segment was, they'd have to make a counter statement about it. I had never heard of this site but the stance taken by the Times was so appalling and disturbing to me that I joined and I've been reading threads all week. I also emailed them a full single spaced page about how gross I thought their public position was. Attached my statement if anyone's interested. But more than anything think it'd be cool if massive amounts of people emailed them too.

I read your shots. Did they write back to you ?

 

[BeautifulMosaics]

I heard about SS from "The Daily" podcast feature on this, the 33-minute segment, which is on spotify/is googleable for those who don't subscribe to read the article. Did y'all know you can actually email [email protected]? Maybe if lots of us expressed how damaging their segment was, they'd have to make a counter statement about it. I had never heard of this site but the stance taken by the Times was so appalling and disturbing to me that I joined and I've been reading threads all week. I also emailed them a full single spaced page about how gross I thought their public position was. Attached my statement if anyone's interested. But more than anything think it'd be cool if massive amounts of people emailed them too.

Wow, what an amazing letter. Thank you for supporting us. It's a great idea.

 

[19860418]

Where the Despairing Log On, and Learn Ways to Die (Published 2021)

It has the trappings of popular social media, a young audience and explicit content on suicide that other sites don’t allow. It is linked to a long line of lives cut short.

www.nytimes.com

I saw the article and I joined as soon as I could. I did not know this forum existed and have been looking for it for a looooooong time. I know the peril this type of publicity creates for the site. In a way I am thankful that they gave me an opportunity to join.

 

[wickedbyessie]

I read your shots. Did they write back to you ?

Not yet — I don't expect to hear from them for a while or even at all. Only wrote to them yesterday. But posted in case anyone else wants to write to them too. Figured ignoring one person is easier than a number of people who are actually implicated in their coverage, who they're claiming they want to "help".

I'll post their reply here if they do ever answer.

 

[Callie Arcale]

I heard about SS from "The Daily" podcast feature on this, the 33-minute segment, which is on spotify/is googleable for those who don't subscribe to read the article. Did y'all know you can actually email [email protected]? Maybe if lots of us expressed how damaging their segment was, they'd have to make a counter statement about it. I had never heard of this site but the stance taken by the Times was so appalling and disturbing to me that I joined and I've been reading threads all week. I also emailed them a full single spaced page about how gross I thought their public position was. Attached my statement if anyone's interested. But more than anything think it'd be cool if massive amounts of people emailed them too.

I love what you wrote @wickedbyessie You are so eloquent and spot on. Thank you for sharing this with us.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I heard about SS from "The Daily" podcast feature on this, the 33-minute segment, which is on spotify/is googleable for those who don't subscribe to read the article. Did y'all know you can actually email [email protected]? Maybe if lots of us expressed how damaging their segment was, they'd have to make a counter statement about it. I had never heard of this site but the stance taken by the Times was so appalling and disturbing to me that I joined and I've been reading threads all week. I also emailed them a full single spaced page about how gross I thought their public position was. Attached my statement if anyone's interested. But more than anything think it'd be cool if massive amounts of people emailed them too.

Powerful and eloquent.

 

[littlelungs]

The site now draws six million page views a month, on average — quadruple that of the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, according to data from Similarweb, a web analytics company.

Wow, I wonder if there's a reason for that. I don't know why a suffering person who is cornered by piss-poor circumstances and repeatedly shit on and ostracized by this broken society would rather end their suffering on their own terms and have a space where they can speak openly about how they're feeling and relate to others, when they can just hear the same age-old platitudes and toxic positivity from a stranger who will likely have them thrown into a psych ward to be treated like a dumbass and a criminal upon merely uttering the word "suicide". Let's not address the actual underlying causes for an individual's suicidality or actually do something to make living in this world a more bearable thing. To hell with personal autonomy and choice – the system needs its drones and those taxes aren't going to pay themselves.

This pro-life jerkfest only makes me feel even more suicidal and misunderstood than usual, and I can see right through it. I'm so sick and fucking tired of this blatant lack of empathy and perspective and furthermore the "life good, death bad, suicide is ALWAYS irrational and must be prevented at all costs, ooga booga" bullshit attitude without any sincere regard for an individual's personal circumstances and wishes as to what they want to do with their own life, or actual quality of life. BEYOND sick of all of this.

Hi to all of the anti-choice lurkers who are definitely reading this thread.

 

[Average Joe]

I just can't believe suicide didn't exist before this website started.

 

[Life sucks]

This just proves how humans are terrible and dumb species unable to understand the truth of life and suffering. There are countless and endless problems in this world and none of them is SS. People die from wars, diseases, viruses, etc everyday and the world doesn't do anything. Do you think those people really care? They are just terrible apes who want people to continue the mad game and force everyone else no matter what.

There is only absurdity in those minds, worse than animals and other species. Is it better for someone to stay alive and suffer from incurable diseases? Is it better for someone to stay alive and be forced to hurt others? Is it better for someone to live when there is nothing possible to do anymore? And there are endless questions. It looks like "normal death", "diseases", "accidents" or any word are all better than "suicide" for them, in this case, let's change the word and make it something else like "self-accident" and see how language is just a trick to the brain and the words chosen by the apes is only to make it a taboo topic.

Well, to the tiny brains of the prolifers, SS is more of a threat than covid, wars, terrorism, racism, oppression, economical struggles, the heat and temperature increase in the planet, the horrors of life, abuse of all forms, incurable physical and mental illnesses, the hell of chronic physical and mental pain, constantly losing everyone and everything you love, and the list is endless.

This just proves how fragile and delusional is prolifing. A single forum is shaking them and none of the life horrors.

If someone wants to improve, they must first accept the truth of life as what it really is, then try to work with that on mind. Ignoring all of the suffering of others only to continue the oppression is absurd and the worst. You know, no matter how much those people keep prolifing, life could easily demolish them and whatever they had, one day, they could be suicidals also, and then it would be too late for them. It's for the betterment for everyone to be pro-choice. Life isn't your friend, life isn't a god to worship, life is a monster capable of betraying and crushing you anytime.

 

[cambrai33]

To be honest I don't give too much thought to profilers or anyone else of that mindset. I honestly believe some have the best intentions at heart but they come at the issues from a closed polarised viewpoint, not truly understanding the complexity of how people get to this place in life.

Ok I care about those who want to ctb but have never reached out for help, some things can be fixed, not all but the finality of ctb for me at least means it's worth a go

Finally some of the stories here are just heartbreaking and I am in awe they have stuck it out so long

 

[Catloaf]

Because from what I've gathered from looking at their twitters, some of the fixthe26 folks had a family member kill themselves and I'm assuming they were on here. Grief blinds you.

Yeah, but fixthe26 weren't the ones to write this brilliant piece of journalism

 

[Circles]

Yeah, but fixthe26 weren't the ones to write this brilliant piece of journalism

But they probably gave them the information cause some things in the article talks about things that happened a while back. Why are y'all thinking the fixthe26 folks are dumb? From what I've gathered from looking at their twitters they're not so stupid and we shouldn't underestimate them.

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Oh is oks dont worry ,and you mean the note from Joe ?

Yeah .... My posts were combined.

 

[Simba]

Yeah .... My posts were combined.

Oh oks ,just letting you know that one of StopSS people screenshoted my reply to you with your reply inside mine

 

[deflationary]

This pro-life jerkfest only makes me feel even more suicidal and misunderstood than usual, and I can see right through it.

This. The whole article really drove home the point of how pointless it would be to interact with people this. There was just no attempt at understanding whatsoever. It's alienating and totally counterproductive in terms of actually helping chronically suicidal people.

 

[Wrennie]

I have said it before and I will say it again: No one would be on this site if society didn't think it was okay to treat us like shit for being suicidal. Those who want to get rid of the site will do nothing unless they address the root of the problem.

Mainstream suicide prevention with its suicide hotlines that call the police and doctors who involuntarily commit people on the chance that they will ctb drive people to this site. These practices not only encourage people to join SS but they directly harm people. Reporters love to write about people who ctbed on this site yet there is not a peep when findings show that suicidal people don't confide with their doctors about suicide and many commit suicide as a result of forcible hospitalization.

There is not a fucking peep when suicidal people share their stories of being treated as a non person by the system that claims to help them.

Some studies for those who are interested:

Fear of forcible hospitalization stops patients from talking about suicide with their therapists

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10503307.2018.1543977?journalCode=tpsr20#:~:text=The most common motivation for,to an inpatient psychiatric unit.

Fear of forcible hospitalization is the chief reason men do not talk about suicide with their doctors

details

health.ucdavis.edu

Psychiatric coercion is linked to an increased suicide attempts after being released

Perceived Coercion During Admission Into Psychiatric Hospitalization Increases Risk of Suicide Attempts After Discharge - PubMed

Patients' perception of the context in which they were hospitalized is associated with a small but significant increase in their likelihood of postdischarge suicide attempts.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Last but not least, a straight to the point analysis of the benefits and costs of mainstream suicide prevention tactics.

Should compulsory admission to hospital be part of suicide prevention strategies?

The World Health Organization report Preventing Suicide: A Global Imperative provides governments with guidance for comprehensive suicide prevention strategies. However, it does not mention the role that compulsory admission to hospital of psychiatric ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

They were planning on sectioning me the day I jumped out of a window. I did it in the early morning before they were scheduled to arrive. My PTSD from former experiences with mental health facilities is probably what finally drove me over the edge (that and the drug I was placed on). I felt utter desperation, as though I had to escape from a vicious predator.

Who's that Sarah? @bennay

Seriously I'd like to send them pictures of people who failed their attempts with firearms to show them what sasu is preventing people from doing.
Nobody wants to see that, and yet it happens all the time. Some people live in complete agony for years, in total agony and solitude.

We should send them articles of people who failed hanging and ended up as vegetables, unable to feed themselves and nourished intravenously for months.
We should send them articles of people eating paracetamol, agonising for months due to liver failure.
We should send them articles of people drinking bleach, agonising for hours.

On sasu we've all been fucked up by society by different ways (bullying, harassment, abuse) and now they don't want us to exit peacefully.

By analogy, that's like beating your pet as hell so that it loses two legs, one eye and one ear and then when it's moaning due to suffering you don't want to offer it a peaceful exit. Just allow people to buy N at a cheap price like it was the case before the invention of benzos, and everyone will be happy.

FUCK YOU THE NEW YORK TIMES AND PRO-LIFE PEOPLE YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. Fucking braindead journalists.

You're the ones who are delusional as hell. You truly think calling a helpline is going to "save" people.

Guess what : it doesn't. Everyone here who called a helpline said it was useless as hell.
Everyone here who tried antidepressants said they were at best, slightly positive, at worst horribly damaging.
Everyone here who tried therapy said it hasn't entirely removed their suicidal thoughts at best,
or that it was detrimental due to their therapist being abusive at worst.

RECOVERY ISN'T POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE FFS !!!

I'd like a journalist from the NYT or a self-righteous psychiatrist to suffer from severe depression for a decade, or to have face cancer, or to become homeless and see how it feels. Guess what : I think the first thing you'd like to do would be to join Sanctioned Suicide. Fuck you, assholes.

They should see the X-rays of my fucking hip after I jumped out of a window. Apparently It was bad enough to make the radiologists cringe (the trauma unit I went to has a thing where the radiologists vote on which fractures were the worst, and mine was one of them).

 

[bennay]

Make no mistake, stopSS doesn't give a shit about any of us on here. They're a group of people that have lost people who were on this site, to suicide. To them this site is the entire reason why despite the fact that those individuals made there own choices. The only goal is to shut this site down. Period. They will never try to understand because they don't care about making worthwhile efforts to change things that might help people from needing this site in the first place. For them it's not about trying to genuinely help in the way it matters, it's about trying to get "payback". Remember that. This is a war to them because they've decided to make it one.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

I'm not reading that article, but I'm going to assume it never brings up demand for better mental health care, does it? I hate this world.

 

[j0n4th4n]

I'm not reading that article, but I'm going to assume it never brings up demand for better mental health care, does it? I hate this world.

just the usual "if you or someone you know..." message at the end

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

They're a group of people that have lost people who were on this site, to suicide.

If thats the case how are they still spouting shit like the suicide hotline? The people in my life who know my situation wouldn't be caught dead suggesting nonsense like that.

 

[CJP]

It's why I joined - very happy to have seen it. The article mentions Sodium Nitrite - what does one do with it when one is ready?

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

You would think that after 'analyzing more than 1.2 million messages from the site' they would have had some compassion. How can you spend months investigating here, reading members' stories, witnessing how people support each other and still shit out such a biased article?

Because they didn't analyze shit, they're being dishonest. All I've ever seen on this site are people trying to be supportive and kind to one another. When it came to methods? All I've seen are people suggesting methods that are less likely to have people end up with brain damage. People promote safe sex by distributing free condoms, they give out clean needles at places for drug addicts, I see absolutely zero reason why either of those is okay and informing people on how to cleanly commit suicide isn't. Fucking hate people man. This gets me violently angry. For all their efforts to get this place shut down, they don't go to any mental health center and volunteer, do they? They would never reach out to a stranger and offer their own time and support to make them feel the least bit better. Fucking hypocrites.

 

[Simba]

just saying that one of StopSS has screenshotted you too :(

@noname223 @Circles @Ankou @Rational man @Quinlor