Anyone know anything about Indoxacarb?

[Tesha]

So I'll start with saying I'm not recommending this method to anyone. I have no extensive knowledge or data, which is why I'm asking if anyone knows anything about Indoxacarb.

I've been using an ant bait station, due to a nuisance ant colony. I looked up the ingredients today and it's Indoxacarb - which when ingested causes methaemoglobin. This is the same mechanism that SN causes. One of the first Google entities relates to a person who attempted suicide using this pesticide. He received methylene blue and survived.

The LD50 / acute toxic dose is higher than required for SN, but not ridiculously so. I also don't know how peacefulness / other side effects etc. compares to SN.

My concentration / ability to research is pretty crap at the moment, so I was wondering if anyone else had ever looked in to this?

As I said before - I don't recommend this, I'm just fact searching.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

I'm also looking at other substances that cause methaemoglobinemia. So far my research has been encouraging, I haven't found any major issues, I mostly just have questions about dosage. When/if CocoToxBase comes back, we can ask her to look these substances up in TOXBASE.

 

[sanitystruggle]

It doesn't sound quick:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2738321/

The patient was in the ER for something like 12 hours before they diagnosed methaemoglobinemia, and even then it was only around 33%. Reports of people who have survived SN have often had levels of 60 or even 70% when MB treatment was initiated.

 

[Tesha]

It doesn't sound quick:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2738321/

The patient was in the ER for something like 12 hours before they diagnosed methaemoglobinemia, and even then it was only around 33%. Reports of people who have survived SN have often had levels of 60 or even 70% when MB treatment was initiated.

That was the article I read as well. There wasn't an indication of the amount consumed - so that might've been a factor.

This is why the high purity of SN is so important…