Anyone here that is spiritual or religious?

[athusdragonheart]

Hello, I am pagan/Wiccan and I have a lot of spiritual beliefs involving the gods and reincarnation. I feel like having faith makes it easier to look forward to CTB. I'm sorta envious of the people of Heaven's Gate because they got to die happy. It would be nice if there were people here who have faith and personal experiences with god/gods. Despite how depressing ctb can be, I want people around me who I can relate to and be happy together.

 

[delphi4470]

Isn't CTB against Wiccan beliefs?
Tbh im not sure what I am, its impossible to prove religion is true but its also impossible (most of the time) to prove its not real.

 

[athusdragonheart]

Isn't CTB against Wiccan beliefs?
Tbh im not sure what I am, its impossible to prove religion is true but its also impossible (most of the time) to prove its not real.

Well Wiccans have different beliefs depending on the person. There aren't set doctrines you have to follow.

 

[Necrosis]

I was raised in a spiritual/religious family that outsiders would call "wiccan". Suicide isn't something that leads to any kind of damnation but you wont have ilkely chances of being in unity with loved ones etc. But the decision isn't terribly shamed or anything. Everyone as their reasons.

 

[the_path_of_sorrows]

Hey, I myself believe in reincarnation and have practiced paganism for many years. I still respect the nature and think that we as the egoistic human race deserve to suffer for our terrible misdoings. I'm into neoplatonism these days, this philosophical way of life makes me feel whole again. If talking about gods.. I think that they have abandoned some of us, think of this as if we're an experiment gone wrong.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Well Wiccans have different beliefs depending on the person. There aren't set doctrines you have to follow.

Isn't CTB against Wiccan beliefs?

tbf the base belief of all wiccans would be the wiccan rede "an it harm none, do what ye will"

considering ctb would typically hurt others depending on the case, it technically would.
but at the same time if people weren't selfish in the first place (abuse, the typical cause of being suicidal) than they would have an understanding that the person is in pain and needs peace (even my support people, while it would hurt them, wouldnt blame me for it. i swear the last time i tried they barely did anything i had to pull myself out)
so between being the cause, understanding it, or not being the cause therefor "not having a reason", technically no, it wouldnt go against the beliefs

and even if it does, so what? everyone has theyre breaking point.
and its not like other religions stick to their rules

also in answer to your post, same but i dont believe in the gods/goddesses. i believe everyone is their own god

 

[MrDarkness]

Im a Lutheran Christian, We believe that through love and kind actions, heaven can be achieved. Yes ik its ironic to be suicidal and be Christian

 

[dreamingofrest]

I don't know what label I would use now, but I was raised Catholic and it does inform the way I look at everything today. I think that, whatever comes next, I can't imagine people would be punished for having been in mental and/or physical pain to the point where they die this way. I don't want to imagine a universe where that is the case, at least. I guess there's no way to know exactly what comes after this life before it happens, which I'm honestly okay with.

 

[DreamEnd]

Yes. Psychedelics made me believe in god

 

[DinoDaAltaTCPCacaRt]

Iam

Im a Lutheran Christian, We believe that through love and kind actions, heaven can be achieved. Yes ik its ironic to be suicidal and be Christian

Its not.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
John 3:18

 

[Raindancer]

Im a Lutheran Christian, We believe that through love and kind actions, heaven can be achieved. Yes ik its ironic to be suicidal and be Christian

Christian here as well.

 

[dreamingofrest]

Yes. Psychedelics made me believe in god

This is really interesting. I've thought about psychedelic therapy before, do you mind sharing a little more about how your experience influenced your religious/spiritual beliefs? Were you an atheist beforehand?

 

[joshua9119]

There was a time when I was interested in spirituality, but I learned the painful lesson that there are many scams in that area today...

 

[Tokugawa_Yoshinobu]

I used to be Pagan and I'm still kinda am. I view nature as divine in a pantheistic and/or spiritual sort of way but I'm not very religious or worship any gods or ancestors, spirits e.t.c. I personally do not view suicide as a sin but as a personal decision that is up to the individual. I don't know what happens after death but whatever happens is better than currently being alive.

 

[DreamEnd]

This is really interesting. I've thought about psychedelic therapy before, do you mind sharing a little more about how your experience influenced your religious/spiritual beliefs? Were you an atheist beforehand?

Yes I was. Psychedelic therapy is usually at low doses. To really see the truth of reality you have to take a lot

 

[Tears in Rain]

Yes. Psychedelics made me believe in god

What do you mean by God? Are you talking about the religious version, or something else?

 

[bettertosleep]

i am spiritual/religious but i don't know what religion i would belong to. i believe in angels and god and i go to church and pray but a lot of my beliefs don't align with the christian beliefs. i plan on taking psychedelics someday before i ctb in order to find out the "truth"

 

[DreamEnd]

What do you mean by God? Are you talking about the religious version, or something else?

No not the religious version. The view in many psychedelic circles is that we are a part of god and when we die we all become one which is god. So god is the kind of higher power that we all belong to

 

[dreamingofrest]

No not the religious version. The view in many psychedelic circles is that we are a part of god and when we die we all become one which is god. So god is the kind of higher power that we all belong to

Thank you for sharing! Do you think this has majorly impacted your outlook on life, death, and suicide?

 

[DreamEnd]

Thank you for sharing! Do you think this has majorly impacted your outlook on life, death, and suicide?

For some time yes. I haven't done them for 3 years now so whatever I got from them has faded away into mundane reality

 

[N33dT0D13]

Spiritual, I believe in reincarnation & karma & call myself a witch even though I don't really practice anything beyond manifestation & my one actual spell I tried failed (wanted my mom to apologize for being an asshole lmao)
I've found my "faith" or beliefs make it easier to imagine not ctb, harnessing my energies to make a better means for myself & those around me... But also I'm lazy & people on average kind of suck, idk
It does make imagining death less, somber, less final I guess? If I die I die, if there's anything after that, cool, if not, I'll be too dead to care, I tried my best. Maybe I'll come back, maybe I'll just float around in the aether, my consciousness scattered to the stars ⁠☆★☆