RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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I'd like to know if there are other trans people in this forum. I've talked to some in the past and I stumble across topics that touch that subject from time to time but i'm really curious how many of you are exactly registered in this forum. I would also like to know if you being trans is one of the reasons you're a member of this forum. For me it is. Being trans means pain and suffer for me and I probably wouldn't be active in this forum if I wasn't. It's not the only reason why I desire to ctb but it's one of the significant ones. It would be interesting to know if the high suicide rate among us is mirrored in this forum.
 
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tevati

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I am not trans. Zanexx was trans, but he/she is dead. I read somewhere the suicide rate for trans is 40%.
 
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Duqu

Duqu

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Aug 27, 2018
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She. I didn't know Zanexx was trans but she definitely identified as female.

I'm trans masculine. Began transitioning 11 years ago.
 
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bigj75

bigj75

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Sep 1, 2018
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I am not trans. Zanexx was trans, but he/she is dead. I read somewhere the suicide rate for trans is 40%.
That's extremely high percentage.
 
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Ashpac

Ashpac

Lost and always will be.
Jul 22, 2018
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I am not trans. Zanexx was trans, but he/she is dead. I read somewhere the suicide rate for trans is 40%.

I just found this in relation to your post.

Approximately 41% of transgender people attempt suicide at least once in their lives compared to the rate of 5% in the general population. Transgender patients who have attempted suicide once have nearly a 40% chance for making a third attempt in their lifetime.
 
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I'd like to know if there are other trans people in this forum. I've talked to some in the past and I stumble across topics that touch that subject from time to time but i'm really curious how many of you are exactly registered in this forum. I would also like to know if you being trans is one of the reasons you're a member of this forum. For me it is. Being trans means pain and suffer for me and I probably wouldn't be active in this forum if I wasn't. It's not the only reason why I desire to ctb but it's one of the significant ones. It would be interesting to know if the high suicide rate among us is mirrored in this forum.
I'm sure a user on here zanex who ctb was gebder neutral or trans someone may know
 
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RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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Thanks for the information. It's saddening to hear about their passing but I hope they found peace. I hope I can follow her soon to a better place.

I just found this in relation to your post.

Approximately 41% of transgender people attempt suicide at least once in their lives compared to the rate of 5% in the general population. Transgender patients who have attempted suicide once have nearly a 40% chance for making a third attempt in their lifetime.

That's true. The suicide rate is high. It's also worth mentioning that crossdressers were included in that study and they have a suicide rate of 22% to 44%. I think these are mostly transgender people in the closet. So the suicide rate of trans people would probably be even higher if we exclude them. Trans men have a suicide rate of 46% according to that study and trans women have a suicide rate of 42%.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/AFSP-Williams-Suicide-Report-Final.pdf

"Suicide attempts among trans men (46%) and trans women (42%) were slightly higher than the full sample (41%). Cross-dressers assigned male at birth have the lowest reported prevalence of suicide attempts among gender identity groups (21%)."

The study also concludes that social reasons are mainly responsible for these numbers. If trans people grow up in a stable social enviroment with a supporting family without discrimination, the suicide rate lowers drastically.
 
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ChaosDergon

ChaosDergon

Dreaming of my suicide
Sep 25, 2018
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I happen to be a trans woman, and definitely say some of the reasons for wanting to ctb relate to being trans. Alot have to do with social and familial things, but some have to do with the massive dysphoria. Even though on HRT for years, and have been out for just about as long (started HRT about 6 months prior to being public, though I did tell my family and close friends early on), it still bothers me and I think always will.

Pretty sure the years of deep religiosity (being brought up very religious family ) while my brain was still developing and the self hatred it brought about, just broke my brain to the point of no return. Also when I came out to my family they point blank told me they thought about telling me never to contact them again but opted to stay in touch. But they continue to ignore my identity and sometimes say things against it and its so infuriating and I limit my contact with them because I cannot deal with it. But cannot bring myself remove them from my life entirely even though they are a strain on me. The general public sucks in general. Health care professional in my area have been shitty when it comes to trans issues, though they are getting better.

I really should move but the pointlessness of it and the anxiety that creates in me are huge. Plus I have a decent job (doable even though I hate it) with decent benefits that are hard to give up. Would require some pre-planning and a solid job opportunity to leave. I just don't have the will power to try, and cannot stand the idea of the number of rejections that would occur. I envy people who say, oh I can just get a new job, as if the process is easy. The anxiety it causes me actually makes me want to jump off the top of the parking garage. Since not ready to actually die yet, and do not like the risk of it not working as its not that high only 3 stories above ground; I just try not to engage things that will trigger that part of me. Since I am here obvi planning on going through with it sometime, but I do not want it to be an impulse, it must be a reasoned decision.

Beyond the trans stuff and the general strong anxiety I feel about several things, I have also been diagnosed with bpd and major depression. Have been on medications in past for the anxiety,BPD and depression but they just did not work out. Have been off the last set for a while now (about December was last time I took em). Honestly do not feel that different from when on them, they should affect my brain chemistry and help but do not ; well at least the combos I tried did not help. Some even were a detriment. In the end I am going on my own will power and when ready to move on from the world I will, though I needed to find an effective way. Previous attempts were impulsive, lacked reliability or just misguided. For now I have a few things I want to do, though as I have said in other posts I may have to settle with not completing them, if I just end up at the end of my rope.

But being both trans and having bpd, not sure what the statistical overlap would be but considering those with bpd have an attempt rate of about 70% and a success rate of about 10% for completed suicide. And trans folks have somewhere around the 40% mentioned earlier its gonna be super close to 100%. Not statistically surprising I have tried at least once before. And though I have tried the getting help path and medication, the turmoil does not go away.I also want to make clear I would not change transition for anything, it was best decision I made and do not regret it. Sometimes when I talk about my depression and sadness after transition; people seem to think I have regrets about it. Its more for so long I thought transition (and the various aspects to it) would "fix" me and I would become a normalish person who wants to live or at least likes life. But I remain ambivalent about it most of the time.
 
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Miss clefable

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Hugs I'm mtf but now non binary one of the reasons I want to die
 
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TheGoodGuy

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I am not trans. Zanexx was trans, but he/she is dead. I read somewhere the suicide rate for trans is 40%.
I have read that too several places.
 
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Miss clefable

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Aug 23, 2018
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Don't get me started with "transgender" people.
Hugs Dani I know what's happened with you but please don't let your experience effect how others feel
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
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Everyone has a fucking disorder. It's not rocket science.
 
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Duqu

Duqu

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Aug 27, 2018
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You're not "transgender." You have BPD. You have an unstable sense of self, an identity disturbance, and black and white thinking.

Um, no she's a transwoman with BPD. the "trans" part of someone's identity does NOT negate the possibility of have actual mental illness (you'll note they removed gender dysphoria from the DSM5 so it's no longer considered a mental condition it's a physical condition
 
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Duqu

Duqu

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Aug 27, 2018
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I don't want you to start, thanks.
Same

ETA I read the thread where you said what happened to you and I'm sorry it did, but it doesn't negate the fact that there IS a fairly LARGE population of people who are transgender. You may not be one of them, but just because you had that experience doesn't mean everyone who is transgender is brainwashed.
 
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ChaosDergon

ChaosDergon

Dreaming of my suicide
Sep 25, 2018
21
Hugs back to others support.

Dani, I understand the unstable sense of self part (and the black and white thinking) and your not the first to believe this is the reason for the transness, but it does not invalidate it in any way; like others have mentioned. From my perspective being a woman is one of the constant parts of my life, and a lot of the aspects and identity issues relating to gender come from denying who I was for so long and the self hatred I had been taught because of my religious upbringing, there was a constant self monitoring that occurred as to not accidentally reveal anything that would bring familial wrath down upon me growing up. I have a general lack of sense of myself, but some core fundamentals do persist. For as long as I can remember it has been a part of me and the transition is the only thing that gives me some semblance of peace (not enough peace and so I stay ambivalent overall about existence).

I understand greatly how BPD affects my life, its one of the big reasons I am trying so hard to make sure I make a reasoned logical decision about when I ctb, impulsivity can be a huge problem for me( I even am hesitant about having good means on hand due to this). When I go, I want to make sure it is my decision and had no other choice; I do not want it to be a reaction or impulse.

Also, (and this is by no means an exhaustive thought). Things do intersect, and the common labels (not an illness but definitely part of the mind and who you are) and diagnosis's are just a way to find a point to start with and understand the self. with the relative immaturity of the understanding of the mind compared to rest of body, it can be messy. then there is the concept of self autonomy and when is ok to interfere with what one will do with their life, body (be it transition), health problems (mental or physical), right to die, etc...

Sorry I am getting off topic and I should not get into this further as the op started this thread about who is trans on here.
 
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satou

satou

not yet
Sep 3, 2018
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I'm sure a user on here zanex who ctb was gebder neutral or trans someone may know
"physiologically female, mentally male/androgynous"
 
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RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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"physiologically female, mentally male/androgynous"

So she was a transman? I've seen a memorial page that was about her apparently and it addressed her as a "girl", which really hurts. Trans people should be memorized as the gender they identify as.
 
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08nomore

08nomore

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Sep 24, 2018
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Im not trans but Im gay and very fucked up for being forced to be something else all my childhood.
 
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Red star

Red star

Experienced
Sep 15, 2018
206
I'm sorry for your pain, I can only imagine what its like and feel for you. Hugs

One of my fav trans people is Gia Gunn from RPDR. I was hoping she was gonna be on AS4 but unfortunately not.
 
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satou

satou

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Sep 3, 2018
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So she was a transman? I've seen a memorial page that was about her apparently and it addressed her as a "girl", which really hurts. Trans people should be memorized as the gender they identify as.
I don't think she really cared all that much about that and wouldn't have been bothered. I didn't know her that well though...
 
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Sayo

Sayo

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Aug 22, 2018
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I don't think of it as one of my direct reasons, but it certainly compounds many of them. I tried to go into greater detail but I get antsy about this subject. I'm sorry so many of us are here, but thank you all for posting.
 
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Thanassis

Thanassis

Morto por dentro, quase por fora
Oct 1, 2018
19
I discovered my identity on Saturday after much turmoil inside my head. It wasn't the first time I was questioning.


I'm a trans guy. I'd probably be able to get hormones for free or cheap, but no surgery. And even if I did transition, the person I love still wouldn't like me anyway.
 
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Clover_

Clover_

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Sep 30, 2018
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I'm trans, I guess gender dysphoria is one of my reasons for wanting to ctb but it's not the main or only reason.
 
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alizee

alizee

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Jul 22, 2018
452
I'm a trans woman as well. Gender dysphoria with what I missed out in childhood & adulthood are the driving forces for suicide. It's also painful to be in a reality where I was tortured by religious people and now the world changes after my puberty & social conditioning where others did irreversible damage to me.
 
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Duqu

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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!
Aug 27, 2018
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Adding, Like I said I'm transmasc (been on T for 11 years and had top surgery 11 years ago as well and hysto 5 years ago, don't plan on any more surgeries) but am starting to feel more..non binary. I'm still ok with he/him pronouns but wish I hadn't gone on T and just had top surgery and the hysto. I wouldn't be so fat, and I don't like being hairy (I'm VERY hairy) though I do keep a very short beard (trimmed with a beard trimmer on the shortest setting on the guard) because I don't like how round my face looks without it (too fat/round).

And I don't think my trans-ness is really why I want to CTB (though being transmasc and feeling NB is hard..especially when I can't really tell anyone because I was *so damn certain* of my "masculinity" and transitioning and such and I'm afraid people won't take me seriously if I say I feel mentally like I want to partially de-transition. Not totally, obviously, but like I said I would love to get electrolysis or something but good god that would be expensive and painful (like I said, full body fur suit here) I don't know how MTF's do it. Plus I am losing my hair on my head (so unfair, why I am I hairy everywhere the top of my head?! SO UNFAIR).
 
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