Discussion Any ideas on suicide methods in the Ukraine?

[Adûnâi]

I'm NOT going to kill myself any time soon, especially considering that I have holidays for a few months lmao, but I just feel really lonely and hopeless regarding suicide methods in my country.

The Ukraine is not the USA, not the EU, not even Russia, just a black hole. I feel intrinsically disconnected from even suiciders because of this geographic fact. I guess, I should find some vomit-inducing Russian web-portal if I want to find relevant experiences?

If I knew of suicide methods in my country, chances are, I would also had the required skills to form social connections, hence not ideating suicide to begin with.

 

[Darkover]

i have a source for sn from Ukraine if you want it pm me

 

[Adûnâi]

i have a source for sn from Ukraine if you want it pm me

Chances are, I'll just be sent to prison for purchasing illegal chemical substances and get raped by zeks. Adds to the failure chance.

 

[Adûnâi]

i have a source for sn from Ukraine if you want it pm me

I'm now calling my mom telling her she had one job (abortion). So yeah, I'm a piece of shit. To privileged people who have it better than me. Like the Germans with their escorts. Or Americans with their guns and freely available SN.

(I'm not trying to equate the misery, I just envy people, hence I'm abrasive. Although regarding my mom, I do hate her, birthing children is a disgusting crime, @FuneralCry ).

 

[loopdaloop]

Chances are, I'll just be sent to prison for purchasing illegal chemical substances and get raped by zeks. Adds to the failure chance.

umm @Bobert_Beniro is from ukraine, maybe he'll be able to hook you to a source.

 

[Bobert_Beniro]

Dude, Ukraine is just a paradise for suicidal people. It's easy to get drugs here, they sold me amitriptyline and other prescription drugs without a prescription, they even sell them to children lol. And where did you get the idea that sn is prohibited? They sold it to me without any problems If you are afraid of breaking the law, then the carbon monoxide method or partial suspension is your choice

 

[nembutal]

enlist?

 

[ayb]

Chances are, I'll just be sent to prison for purchasing illegal chemical substances and get raped by zeks. Adds to the failure chance.

SN isn't illegal in the Ukraine and I doubt the justice system there gives a fuck that some suicidal dude bought SN when they're preoccupied with the war.

 

[Adûnâi]

Dude, Ukraine is just a paradise for suicidal people. It's easy to get drugs here, they sold me amitriptyline and other prescription drugs without a prescription, they even sell them to children lol. And where did you get the idea that sn is prohibited? They sold it to me without any problems If you are afraid of breaking the law, then the carbon monoxide method or partial suspension is your choice

SN isn't illegal in the Ukraine and I doubt the justice system there gives a fuck that some suicidal dude bought SN when they're preoccupied with the war.

How do I get pure sodium nitrate in the Ukraine then? The only drug paraphernalia I ever bought was a lancet pack (for blood magic, I'm not schizo, I swear), and the lady asked me for my phone number. Maybe they just wanted it for phishing purposes, but it still scared me.

Illegal - I meant if I ever bought it online, the shipping of chemical substances might be illegal.

 

[Adûnâi]

Russian military illegally invading your country

The Russians merely joined in on the civil war fun that had been going for 8 years.

Anyway, I don't mind joke answers, but I'd prefer them to be intelligent.

 

[Soc]

Just drive to Crimea like it's 2010 and ignore anyone trying to stop you.

 

[Adûnâi]

Just drive to Crimea like it's 2010 and ignore anyone trying to stop you.

I don't have a car, I'm not an American. Again, I don't mind funny jokes - the keyword is funny. So far, these responses are like "attack a police officer" (I thought as much, but people here don't carry guns, this isn't America, alas).

 

[Soc]

I don't have a car, I'm not an American. Again, I don't mind funny jokes - the keyword is funny. So far, these responses are like "attack a police officer" (I thought as much, but people here don't carry guns, this isn't America, alas).

Okay more realistically isn't it easy to sign up to go on the front and then have access to all the guns you need? Not saying you CTB with the help of mother Russia but with a gun at least..

 

[Adûnâi]

Okay more realistically isn't it easy to sign up to go on the front and then have access to all the guns you need? Not saying you CTB with the help of mother Russia but with a gun at least..

For that I'd have to live with sweaty men - getting raped en route doesn't sound like a good plan.

And chances are, I might not get a gun in the first place (just sucking cock to mister sergeant in the rear with my autism). And if I do, how do I even train to shoot myself in the head discretely?

Do I just become a mass shooter, hoping others shoot me in response?

And if I randomly were to engage in proper combat, chances are I'd just get my feet removed on a landmine.

Take it all with a grain of salt, I'm talking out of my ass.

 

[_Broken_alice]

Seriously, you are worried about something seemingly unregulated there being shipped form Ukraine to... Ukraine? You literally have relative proximity to one of the few SN suppliers that will still ship to places like the US. (btw, we have none here anymore it seems AND they are pushing to ban any over 10%. The us is very much going down a bad path taking away peaceful options.). Pretty sure if that supplier can get it anywhere in NA, they can get it to another Ukrainian address much easier, faster, and cheaper. And we doubt you would even need to interact with anyone. Just place the order and wait for your option to arrive..
We won't respond to this. You asked a question and have shot down every attempt to answer it including the serious ones by somehow leading it all into rape.

 

[Soc]

The jokes over, put a sock in it @Soc

Ah so the Christmas jokes appear.

 

[FallingGrace]

You could try suicide by train but there's a slim chance the conductor will rape you

 

[Adûnâi]

Seriously, you are worried about something seemingly unregulated there being shipped form Ukraine to... Ukraine? You literally have relative proximity to one of the few SN suppliers that will still ship to places like the US. (btw, we have none here anymore it seems AND they are pushing to ban any over 10%. The us is very much going down a bad path taking away peaceful options.). Pretty sure if that supplier can get it anywhere in NA, they can get it to another Ukrainian address much easier, faster, and cheaper. And we doubt you would even need to interact with anyone. Just place the order and wait for your option to arrive..
We won't respond to this. You asked a question and have shot down every attempt to answer it including the serious ones by somehow leading it all into rape.

How do I learn of it? Is it on the dark net? I've been suggested some supplier in DMs, but it shipped exclusively to the US.

How the fuck do I even google this shit? Everyone knows this stuff, and I don't. The same as with AI...

No-ones gonna rape you during war time

We won't respond to this. You asked a question and have shot down every attempt to answer it including the serious ones by somehow leading it all into rape.

I meant sleeping with men in a boot-camp. It's not like I can get a gun randomly in the street. I'm not a Kievan in Feb 2022.

And how have I shot down anything? If I google НІТРАТ НАТРІЮ, I get construction shops - how would I even determine the purity or whatever?

 

[FallingGrace]

How do I learn of it? Is it on the dark net? I've been suggested some supplier in DMs, but it shipped exclusively to the US.

How the fuck do I even google this shit? Everyone knows this stuff, and I don't. The same as with AI...


I meant sleeping with men in a boot-camp. It's not like I can get a gun randomly in the street. I'm not a Kievan in Feb 2022.

And how have I shot down anything? If I google НІТРАТ НАТРІЮ, I get construction shops - how would I even determine the purity or whatever?

If you're really working from a zero knowledge base, I recommend you read the book Final Exit: The Practicalities of Self-Delieverance and Assisted Suicide for the Dying by Derek Humphry. It's not perfect, and by no means complete, but covers a lot of methods. The Peaceful Pill Handbook is chunkier but more updated. For accessing DNMs, r/darknet will have help for you. Always abide by the "bible" when making any purchases if you don't want to be scammed.

 

[MyLifeIsANightmare]

Approach the Russian military illegally invading your country and tell one of the soldiers his leader Putin is a vile inhuman d*ck

vile inhuman duck?

 

[FallingGrace]

Never recommend the train there's a special place in hell for them.

T'was a joke that any method could theoretically carry the risk of rape, no matter how stupidly

 

[Adûnâi]

T'was a joke that any method could theoretically carry the risk of rape, no matter how stupidly

Did I have to specify having my kidneys beaten off, or eyes gouged out? Rape is a shorthand for torture and bullying, obviously, in all-male collectives.

One of the reasons for my depression is that I support all parties that fight America - and I'm locked in this country which has professed its dying wish to fight for America until the last man (me).

I technically would like Putin dead as much as Zelensky, Biden and Netanyahu, so I don't support the Russian Federation, but I support the Ukraine even less.

 

[FallingGrace]

Did I have to specify having my kidneys beaten off, or eyes gouged out? Rape is a shorthand for torture and bullying, obviously, in all-male collectives.

This coming from the guy who doesn't consider his mother to be a woman. Of course you had to specify you meant something entirely different to "rape" when you said "rape". This isn't a COD lobby.

 

[Adûnâi]

This coming from the guy who doesn't consider his mother to be a woman.

I call women those to whom I'm sexually attracted. I don't want to fuck my mom, hence why she's an honourary male in my eyes. Problems? It's clearly logical.

Anyway, why the fuck am I being bullied on a suicide forum for asking about suicide methods because I'm retarded and useless IRL and online?

 

[FallingGrace]

I call women those to whom I'm sexually attracted. I don't want to fuck my mom, hence why she's an honourary male in my eyes. Problems? It's clearly logical.

Anyway, why the fuck am I being bullied on a suicide forum for asking about suicide methods because I'm retarded and useless IRL and online?

Dude, you're asking for advice, we're trying to give it to you. But it's a little difficult when you don't call things their actual names. Being bullied and being raped are two vastly different experiences. That is why one is called "bullying" and one is called "rape". Would I subject myself to a bit of bullying to obtain a method of dying? Absolutely. Rape? Never. Do you see how these things are different? You seem to purposefully make it impossible for people to have a conversation with you and then call them the bullies. Try reading the resources I recommended further up and you can get in touch if you have any further questions.

 

[Adûnâi]

Being bullied and being raped are two vastly different experiences. That is why one is called "bullying" and one is called "rape".

Truth be told, I don't know what either of that is. I would expect to be beaten to a pulp and anally violated with a bottle. Does it constitute "rape"? That's anyone's guess!

Dude, you're asking for advice, we're trying to give it to you.

You have suggested Thomas the Tank Engine option (which is laudable), and the book (which I have indeed downloaded). Way too many people told me to join the army (with varying doses of lamentable Russophobia) - which would count as a single advice, and not really feasible - first, due to rapey bullying, second, due to the low success rate (my mom says I won't be sent to the front lines due to my Asperger's).

But I have finally found the recently-bumped sodium nitrate thread, and it's an illuminating read! Then again, I have no idea where or how to buy it.

Or take the chemical tests, for example. How in the hell do I conduct them? I'm too retarded for that. Where do I buy the pipette? Or the scales? Or the aquarium?

• Digital scale to weigh 5g of SN
• 2 x one litre bottles of distilled water
• Separate liquid container, like a cup for example.
• 2ml pipette
• Nitrite test strips. Should measure up to 10mg/L. Usually part of an aquarium test kit

 

[FallingGrace]

Truth be told, I don't know what either of that is. I would expect to be beaten to a pulp and anally violated with a bottle. Does it constitute "rape"? That's anyone's guess!


You have suggested Thomas the Tank Engine option (which is laudable), and the book (which I have indeed downloaded). Way too many people told me to join the army (with varying doses of lamentable Russophobia) - which would count as a single advice, and not really feasible - first, due to rapey bullying, second, due to the low success rate (my mom says I won't be sent to the front lines due to my Asperger's).

But I have finally found the recently-bumped sodium nitrate thread, and it's an illuminating read! Then again, I have no idea where or how to buy it.

Or take the chemical tests, for example. How in the hell do I conduct them? I'm too retarded for that. Where do I buy the pipette? Or the scales? Or the aquarium?

You know what? Well done. You had me for a couple of days. It was a brilliant act. I enjoyed it. Have fun trolling the next person!

 

[Adûnâi]

i have a source for sn from Ukraine if you want it pm me

Just to clarify, I was an absolute moronic retard when you DMed me the link - for a reason incomprehensible to me, I saw the state line, but didn't see the country line, thus deciding that the service was restricted to the USA exclusively.

You know what? Well done. You had me for a couple of days. It was a brilliant act. I enjoyed it. Have fun trolling the next person!

Just so you know, I never troll people. If anyone wants to call me a troll, it's the same as calling suiciders mentally deranged. You do you.

Yes, I'm weird, I never have any home, that's why I want to kill myself in the fucking first place. (Although I will freely admit that I'm a fraud for the time being - as I have a few anchors keeping me unironically alive, as I'm going to write in the Recovery section now.)

 

[FallingGrace]

Just so you know, I never troll people. If anyone wants to call me a troll, it's the same as calling suiciders mentally deranged. You do you.

You call yourself, and others "retarded". I don't think you get to assert any moral high-ground on name calling here my friend :')

 

[Adûnâi]

You call yourself, and others "retarded". I don't think you get to assert any moral high-ground on name calling here my friend :')

What's wrong with calling stupid people retarded? In this case, I am such, and I freely admit it.

Calling me a troll is effectively a conversation-closer because you assume dishonesty on my part. Guess what, I never lie. Even though the idiocy of my station may indeed be difficult to grasp.

Anyway, this is so off-topic that I don't even understand the point. It's not even a real critique of my character flaws (which I would like to mull over as I literally have nobody to talk to lmao).