Method Any good CTB methods for a heavier guy?

[MaggotsDen]

So I'm on the larger side of things (around 400-430 lbs is what I fluctuate), and my father when he passed was 700lbs.

I dont have much for cash and obtaining a job where I live is difficult, so I was wondering if anyone knew some good, preferably not to pricey methods.

I'm actually grabbing some cornhole bags right now to try the nighty-night method later when I get home, but if I fail is there anything else good?

Hanging is off the table, as I have no rope that can hold my weight, and meds would have to be purchasable through amazon or an online shop.
I typically cut, but I have no good knives anymore :(

Edit(bc I was reminded): I don't have access to guns either, Some of my friends might, but I don't know how that conversation would work.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

A Shotgun or rifle doesn't care how heavy a being is , the skull will blow apart anyway if the head is hit in the middle of the head at point blank range.

I really don't think any land animal can survive such a shot to the head

 

[MaggotsDen]

I probably should've tossed in that the only thing we have in our home is BB guns-
Even then I think they got thrown out awhile ago :[

 

[Kapsyl]

We're not supposed to suggest any methods here because if liability issues, but take a look here for list of popular and effective methods.

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[AmericanMary]

So I'm on the larger side of things (around 400-430 lbs is what I fluctuate), and my father when he passed was 700lbs.

I dont have much for cash and obtaining a job where I live is difficult, so I was wondering if anyone knew some good, preferably not to pricey methods.

I'm actually grabbing some cornhole bags right now to try the nighty-night method later when I get home, but if I fail is there anything else good?

Hanging is off the table, as I have no rope that can hold my weight, and meds would have to be purchasable through amazon or an online shop.
I typically cut, but I have no good knives anymore :(

Edit(bc I was reminded): I don't have access to guns either, Some of my friends might, but I don't know how that conversation would work.

So I'm not recommending anything. At all. This 100% has to be your choice in every way.

For rope, I promise there is rope that can hold your weight. I'm VERY into kink and some of the rope types commonly used in shabari literally will suspend someone 400lbs without issue.

But my chosen method is CO. There are a few costs involved, but it's not crazy. If done correctly, should be quick and painless. Everything can be bought off the "jungle site" in the US.

 

[MaggotsDen]

So I'm not recommending anything. At all. This 100% has to be your choice in every way.

For rope, I promise there is rope that can hold your weight. I'm VERY into kink and some of the rope types commonly used in shabari literally will suspend someone 400lbs without issue.

But my chosen method is CO. There are a few costs involved, but it's not crazy. If done correctly, should be quick and painless. Everything can be bought off the "jungle site" in the US

Tbh I'm less scared for the rope, more of whatever I would hang from.
I have been looking into gasses more though, so I'll definitely check it out. Tysm <3

 

[Linda]

So I'm on the larger side of things (around 400-430 lbs is what I fluctuate), and my father when he passed was 700lbs.

I dont have much for cash and obtaining a job where I live is difficult, so I was wondering if anyone knew some good, preferably not to pricey methods.

I'm actually grabbing some cornhole bags right now to try the nighty-night method later when I get home, but if I fail is there anything else good?

Hanging is off the table, as I have no rope that can hold my weight, and meds would have to be purchasable through amazon or an online shop.
I typically cut, but I have no good knives anymore :(

Edit(bc I was reminded): I don't have access to guns either, Some of my friends might, but I don't know how that conversation would work.

I used to do a lot of mountaineering when I was younger. The ropes that climbers use will take a ton or so before breaking. And that's the usual 11 mm diameter stuff. Even good 8 mm diameter rope would still easily take your weight. Good climbing rope isn't cheap, but you wouldn't want it in the sort of lengths that climbers use.

 

[AmericanMary]

Tbh I'm less scared for the rope, more of whatever I would hang from.
I have been looking into gasses more though, so I'll definitely check it out. Tysm <3

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I also found zannexxs final thread to be REALLY helpful for educational purposes.

 

[LaughingGoat]

A Shotgun or rifle doesn't care how heavy a being is , the skull will blow apart anyway if the head is hit in the middle of the head at point blank range.

I really don't think any land animal can survive such a shot to the head

Literally took the words out of my mouth. My question would be are you 100% sure you don't have any way to access a gun. I find people outside of the US really underestimate the ability to acquire a gun in just about any region in the world if set on doing so.

 

[MaggotsDen]

Literally took the words out of my mouth. My question would be are you 100% sure you don't have any way to access a gun. I find people outside of the US really underestimate the ability to acquire a gun in just about any region in the world if set on doing so.

I'm in the US, but due to a lot of my past, acquiring firearms is damn near impossible.
I have been trying to talk a friend into lending me one, but other than that, thats the only way I can get access.

 

[Dark Window]

Tbh I'm less scared for the rope, more of whatever I would hang from.
I have been looking into gasses more though, so I'll definitely check it out. Tysm <3

jump and train would be what I'd choose.

 

[LaughingGoat]

I'm in the US, but due to a lot of my past, acquiring firearms is damn near impossible.
I have been trying to talk a friend into lending me one, but other than that, thats the only way I can get access.

What state do you live in? Plenty of states have no laws against private sellers selling guns without a FFL or background check. You really don't want to borrow a gun from a friend unless there is no serial number as they can be held criminally responsible.

 

[ms_beaverhousen]

So I'm not recommending anything. At all. This 100% has to be your choice in every way.

For rope, I promise there is rope that can hold your weight. I'm VERY into kink and some of the rope types commonly used in shabari literally will suspend someone 400lbs without issue.

But my chosen method is CO. There are a few costs involved, but it's not crazy. If done correctly, should be quick and painless. Everything can be bought off the "jungle site" in the US.

Can you pm me this "jungle site"?

 

[AmericanMary]

Can you pm me this "jungle site"?

No. It's probably the most used online shop in America.

 

[MaggotsDen]

What state do you live in? Plenty of states have no laws against private sellers selling guns without a FFL or background check. You really don't want to borrow a gun from a friend unless there is no serial number as they can be held criminally responsible.

NY at the moment.

 

[feverinjection]

Can you pm me this "jungle site"

I'm almost positive they mean the one that starts with A and ends with N.

 

[LaughingGoat]

NY at the moment.

I live 2 states away, you can purchase a shotgun from a private seller/gun show in Pennsylvania or New Hampshire without restrictions.

 

[ms_beaverhousen]

I'm almost positive they mean the one that starts with A and ends with N.

Sorry Im such a spaz... I still don't think I know of the one you all are speaking of ://

 

[BardBarrie]

I used to do a lot of mountaineering when I was younger. The ropes that climbers use will take a ton or so before breaking. And that's the usual 11 mm diameter stuff. Even good 8 mm diameter rope would still easily take your weight. Good climbing rope isn't cheap, but you wouldn't want it in the sort of lengths that climbers use.

Will cutting climber's rope — for example in to shorter lengths — negatively affect the rope's structural integrity and load-bearing capacity?

Let's say if I can only buy 10 metres of rope but I only need 2 metres, am I safe cutting it?

 

[Linda]

Will cutting climber's rope — for example in to shorter lengths — negatively affect the rope's structural integrity and load-bearing capacity?

Let's say if I can only buy 10 metres of rope but I only need 2 metres, am I safe cutting it?

Yes, you can cut it, and it won't affect the rope's strength, provided you do it properly. You need to ensure that the nylon (or whatever) fibres of which the rope is formed are properly bound together near the cut (which will involve some heating, among other things). It's not entirely straightforward, but it's not all that difficult either, and there is plenty of information online.
However do you really need to cut it? It you have a trailing length of 8 metres, would it do any harm? You could ensure that it is somewhere out of the way.

 

[BardBarrie]

Yes, you can cut it, and it won't affect the rope's strength, provided you do it properly. You need to ensure that the nylon (or whatever) fibres of which the rope is formed are properly bound together near the cut (which will involve some heating, among other things). It's not entirely straightforward, but it's not all that difficult either, and there is plenty of information online.
However do you really need to cut it? It you have a trailing length of 8 metres, would it do any harm? You could ensure that it is somewhere out of the way.

I will be using a metal bar on a gym frame to hang from, but I want to spread my weight along the horizontal bar via anchoring from multiple small "rings" or "loops" of rope wrapped around the metal bar, then threading my actual ligature rope through all the hoops and tying a knot - essentially dangling the ligature rope from the multiple rope hoops.

Rather than just doing a bog standard single anchor knot directly from my ligature rope to the metal bar, because I'm paranoid that having all my body weight condensed into a single rope diameter will bend the metal bar downwards in the middle.

Am I making sense here?

 

[Linda]

I will be using a metal bar on a gym frame to hang from, but I want to spread my weight along the horizontal bar via anchoring from multiple small "rings" or "loops" of rope wrapped around the metal bar, then threading my actual ligature rope through all the hoops and tying a knot - essentially dangling the ligature rope from the multiple rope hoops.

Rather than just doing a bog standard single anchor knot directly from my ligature rope to the metal bar, because I'm paranoid that having all my body weight condensed into a single rope diameter will bend the metal bar downwards in the middle.

Am I making sense here?

Yes, you are making sense. But the more complexity you introduce the more chance there is of something going wrong. If you have any concerns about whether things will bend, who not keep it simple and use something more sturdy.

 

[BardBarrie]

Yes, you are making sense. But the more complexity you introduce the more chance there is of something going wrong. If you have any concerns about whether things will bend, who not keep it simple and use something more sturdy.

The metal frame — and presumably the horizontal pullup bar it comes with — is rated for 400lbs. I weigh around 220lbs, but like I said I'm worried more about my weight being so concentrated via just the one rope that the bar bends.

I'll test it out at some point. :)

I'm drawn to using the metal frame because that means I can CTB inside my flat in privacy, without disturbing the public.

If the bar doesn't support my weight then the only alternatives I can think of are:
thick trees outside in the woods; hoping there's an even sturdier frame I could buy as a replacement, or — and I really don't want to resort to doing this — using one of the sturdy metal climbing/exercise frames in one of the local parks.

I'd rather die in privacy inside my flat if possible.

Soon I'm going to practice with knots and I'll look into the heat trick for cut climbing rope ends.
Thank you for your advice. :)

 

[ImTelling]

The metal frame — and presumably the horizontal pullup bar it comes with — is rated for 400lbs. I weigh around 220lbs, but like I said I'm worried more about my weight being so concentrated via just the one rope that the bar bends.

I'll test it out at some point. :)

I'm drawn to using the metal frame because that means I can CTB inside my flat in privacy, without disturbing the public.

If the bar doesn't support my weight then the only alternatives I can think of are:
thick trees outside in the woods; hoping there's an even sturdier frame I could buy as a replacement, or — and I really don't want to resort to doing this — using one of the sturdy metal climbing/exercise frames in one of the local parks.

I'd rather die in privacy inside my flat if possible.

Soon I'm going to practice with knots and I'll look into the heat trick for cut climbing rope ends.
Thank you for your advice. :)

You shouldn't do this, this is just to educate anyone who is interested.

You should just tie the rope multiple times around the metal frame OR tie the middle of the rope around the metal frame. You'll still have the desired length of rope plus you won't possibly ruin your CTB attempt by cutting too short.

 

[Linda]

The metal frame — and presumably the horizontal pullup bar it comes with — is rated for 400lbs. I weigh around 220lbs, but like I said I'm worried more about my weight being so concentrated via just the one rope that the bar bends.

I'll test it out at some point. :)

I'm drawn to using the metal frame because that means I can CTB inside my flat in privacy, without disturbing the public.

If the bar doesn't support my weight then the only alternatives I can think of are:
thick trees outside in the woods; hoping there's an even sturdier frame I could buy as a replacement, or — and I really don't want to resort to doing this — using one of the sturdy metal climbing/exercise frames in one of the local parks.

I'd rather die in privacy inside my flat if possible.

Soon I'm going to practice with knots and I'll look into the heat trick for cut climbing rope ends.
Thank you for your advice. :)

In my previous post I was actually going to point out that doing it outside, using a sturdy, more-or-less horizontal tree branch, was a possibility, but decided not to. The only slight disadvantage is that you would probably need a ladder, unless you are used to scrambling around in trees.

 

[BardBarrie]

In my previous post I was actually going to point out that doing it outside, using a sturdy, more-or-less horizontal tree branch, was a possibility, but decided not to. The only slight disadvantage is that you would probably need a ladder, unless you are used to scrambling around in trees.

I've got a step ladder and if I need to tie a knot up high I can use the Running Bowline technique. :)

Main issue with trees will be finding a suitable one in a secluded area: where I live we don't really have a lot of large empty woodlands and derelict buildings like in rural USA for example.

Hopefully the metal bar will hold, otherwise I'll have to do some exploring at some point. :)

You shouldn't do this, this is just to educate anyone who is interested.

You should just tie the rope multiple times around the metal frame OR tie the middle of the rope around the metal frame. You'll still have the desired length of rope plus you won't possibly ruin your CTB attempt by cutting too short.

Sorry, what exactly do you mean by "tie the middle of the rope around the metal frame": you mean to begin the anchor point knot from the middle of the rope and then have two long ends dangling down?

 

[BardBarrie]

@Linda is climbing rope elastic; would I be fine with something like double-braided nylon boat/dock rope?

 

[Linda]

@Linda is climbing rope elastic; would I be fine with something like double-braided nylon boat/dock rope?

The nylon rope I used to use when climbing will stretch, and it could stretch by quite a lot - up to about 20%. (That's why we used it. You don't want a sudden stop after a long fall.) Probably any nylon rope will stretch Rope not made out of nylon may or may not stretch. You would have to do your own research on that.