Any blackpillers here

[iveseenfootage]

Yeah...focus on what can you do instead of whining about it, women don't like tiny wheeners, winers? whenirs? how do you spell it? weener?

I don't think this is the right way to go about it either. People like us, those who are extremely depressed/mentally ill, will never be happy living for the sake of others ("pulling"). Find meaning elsewhere or don't.

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

like what? just shower bro…

I don't think this is the right way to go about it either. People like us will never be happy living for the sake of others ("pulling")

Who's us? I was making a joke? weren't you also?

 

[iveseenfootage]

Who's us? I was making a joke? weren't you also?

Half joke, half truth. It's all not that deep regardless.

 

[Caribbean Sky]

Damn, half the active user base is viewing this thread

istg like i said its some kind of strange "trend" that will disappear in a week.

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

Half joke, half truth. It's all not that deep regardless.

I mean I've seen people turn around from eating animal products to being vegans, I've seen people turn around from consuming exploitative material to fighting against it. I guess the half truth is that not many can overcome their nature however it's not set in stone rule, what they might not be able to do now, they might be able to do in 10 years if a perspective change occurs.

Obviously that would mean to get out of the eco chambers.

istg like i said its some kind of strange "trend" that will disappear in a week.

There were other instances before, it happens from time to time.

 

[Caribbean Sky]

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Who's us? I was making a joke? weren't you also?

HAHAHAHA

There were other instances before, it happens from time to time.

still a trend. many are instances of previous ones

 

[fishperson]

so basically to conclude blackpillers are people that are forced in a higher difficulty setting when all they wanted is to play in easy/ standard mode;
u dont wanna play because its unbalanced sure I get it, but saying its unplayable is delusional. cause u can probably make it work.
but u have every right to opt out. cause it wont become eaiser just because u noticed a glaring pattern

 

[iveseenfootage]

I mean I've seen people turn around from eating animal products to being vegans, I've seen people turn around from consuming exploitative material to fighting against it. I guess the half truth is that not many can overcome their nature however it's not set in stone rule, what they might not be able to do now, they might be able to do in 10 years if a perspective change occurs.

For what it's worth, I'm a bipolar short guy with a girlfriend and I'm still depressed and suicidal so perhaps it's not all it's cracked up to be.

 

[interna]

there's no doubt looks are significant. but COME ON bruh i just want to shake them and tell them how many women just want a man that's genuinely a good person. have u seen benny blanco dude. and genuinely everyone is beautiful to somebody. relationships are more than that.

not even. michael cera is married. jacksfilms is married. projared was married lol.
of course, most blackpillers will jump straight to the "yeah but riches/clout" defense.
what most blackpillers seem to forget is that regular, average and even poor looking people procreate everyday. theres a reason "ugly" genetics exist.
people uglier than you have fucked someone before. but like i said in my previous reply. individualism is key to this ideology. so the moment you realize things aren't all black & white is the moment you most likely escape blackpilling.

there's also the fact that blackpillers, fueled by misogyny and again like i mentioned before their own redirected hate, absolutely despise "females" in their own league.
huge reason why they feel hopeless is bc they feel as if theyre inevitably gonna have to settle for a 4/10 when they want a 9/10.
its simply their own shallowness and resentment biting them in the ass.

that's what makes this ideology work, you're miserable no matter the outcome. if u get game, it's ugly and you'd rather kys. if u get no game, u get no game and u should kys.

also, blackpilling has been around for ages. its not a new thing and it will never die out as it preys on something as ever present as insecurity. it gains notoriety every now and then yes but mostly operates constantly in forums.

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

For what it's worth, I'm a bipolar short guy with a girlfriend and I'm still depressed and suicidal so perhaps it's not all it's cracked up to be.

Obviously...I'm not a blackpiller or something, I just made a joke, I don't even care about relationships xd

 

[Asya]

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[left0vers]

Somebody once expressed the idea nicely.

When you're good-looking, people are nice to you. Your socialization goes smoothly, you internalize the good behaviors that others show to you. You develop an attractive personality.

Flip that, and from the childhood onwards, you are bullied, mocked, disrespected, dismissed, and put down for so long that you never get the chance to get a personality that will be liked. What you have is years and years worth of coping and defense mechanisms and the unfamiliarity with non-hostile social situations. Even when you are not interacting with someone who looks down on you, the gears in your mechanisms are still turning. And you don't know how to act the acceptable way. Your appearance has stopped you from acquiring a likable personality, and it's a tremendously difficult uphill battle to rebuild yourself.

That is the interpretation of lookism I agree with.

 

[Not_A_Seagull]

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i did not intend this to start a entire argument holy fuck lmao


anyway a daily reminder that looks, skintone, height, status, and location matters

ahh yes, the classic "i know a guy argument." so i guess personal anecdotes disprove reality. and what studies? here are the studies, but i doubt you'll read them.

https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf

https://web.simmons.edu/~turnerg/MCC/Matechoice2PDF.pdf

"oh i know a guy....yea there all white by the way"

 

[The Disqualified]

I do not believe in the blackpill as incels put it. I profoundly dislike misogyny and all sorts of discrimination among human beings. I also dislike how our society excludes and bullies others based on appearance.
From my experience, neurodivergence is much more problematic than looks or even height. I would rather be ugly and neurotypical than attractive but neurodivergent. That is my perspective.

I've definitely suffered cruelty at the hands of women, but I don't blame women or feminism in general. I have empathy for incels suffering, but can't approve of their beliefs.
The problem for me is not looks or women, but human beings in general and their social dynamics. They insist on excluding and harming both men and women in the social games they play. I really dread that, truthfully.

 

[Not_A_Seagull]

it's not close-minded when data proves it. personality doesn't matter in this world. that's why women always run to attractive douches who treat them like trash. while the nice guy finishes last lol

read screenshot

thats not really true tbh


looks def matter, it gets your foot in the door. but like trust me not every women runs to the attractive douches who treat them like shit. I can see why given hollywood sterotypes and all that tho.

why not

why should i be forced to accept something so incredibly unfair and ridiculous

sometimes you just gotta boss up. it's unforuntate but sometimes you just have to have your copes and stuff yk.

there's no doubt looks are significant. but COME ON bruh i just want to shake them and tell them how many women just want a man that's genuinely a good person. have u seen benny blanco dude. and genuinely everyone is beautiful to somebody. relationships are more than that.

lmfao it's literally a stereotype in the western world that mid TALL WHITE guys get girls if anything.

istg like i said its some kind of strange "trend" that will disappear in a week.

am i like a mini celeb now? XD

 

[Warum]

very nasty on how

i did not intend this to start a entire argument holy fuck lmao


anyway a daily reminder that looks, skintone, height, status, and location matters


"oh i know a guy....yea there all white by the way"

so you're an incel but have lappland as pfp? thats crazy actually

 

[Not_A_Seagull]

very nasty on how

so you're an incel but have lappland as pfp? thats crazy actually

1) W for recgonizing lappland

2) im not a incel i have no idea where you got that from, i also do not see how saying that skin tone matters in dating, which is a effect of colonialism and colorism in today society, is being a "incel".

 

[Seneca65AD]

To be honest, I haven't studied the issue so I am not bringing any great epiphanies to the conversation. I was always the average looking guy. Nothing terrible but nothing great - just average. Unfortunately due to my ability to listen, I was mostly characterized as "brother material" which really limited my ability to date when I was younger. The older I became, the more the "brother" qualities like listening, and just being respectful without being serious, seemed to play better with the older audience so dating was somewhat easier.

Looking back - and based almost entirely on anecodotal evidence - I know a number of average looking guys (okay, several really unconventional looking fellas) with absolute stunners as wives just because they were nice people. I have also personally seen men with neurofibromatosis, paraplegia, quads, etc. with attractive ladies. Generally, the qualities of a good person carry more weight out of high-school - so if one can survive those years, then dating looks a lot easier - based on my experience.

To be clear, I am not suggesting that "good looking" people don't have it easier, but I do firmly believe that "good acting" people will eventually find true love - or at least a level of contentment that brings a sense of happiness from being with someone.

Edit: I just read leftOvers' post and could not agree more.

 

[yuri77]

i did not intend this to start a entire argument holy fuck lmao


anyway a daily reminder that looks, skintone, height, status, and location matters


"oh i know a guy....yea there all white by the way"

I'm not white, i'm short, i'm not rich, and i look mid so tell me how I could pull women so much prettier than me. I am maybe 5/10 at best and yet I could attract people so tell me how is that possible if what this guy says is true.

 

[aufrechtm7]

more people who choose to be ignorant of the truth, that the second you are born if you have bad looks? then your fate is sealed, ugly and short people will never find love and will always be treated like trash. while the good looking people will get everything in life, it's called the halo effect look it up. i can debate blackpill all day its backed up by real university studies.

No, it's not being ignorant of the truth. Blackpill isn't backed up by any studies, all the arguments are derived from MASSIVE distortions of what is actually real.

Your fate is not determined by physical characteristics, and it doesn't give you a pass to perpetuate hatred.

projared was married lol.

 

[U. A.]

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[msds]

I really hate all the incel bullshit, it's just blaming gestures vaguely women for every single one of your problems, and not taking any accountability. Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe women don't want you because you're a shitty person who treats them like garbage? Looksmaxxing isn't going to change that.

I am incredibly lonely. I have very few friends and have never been in a romantic relationship. But it's ridiculous for me to blame "women" for that, it's because I have problems, I am different, and have trouble meeting people and making friends because my differences mean that people I'd enjoy being around are very rare. Mainly my being neurodivergent, I think that is much more important than my looks.

Incel bullshit is just an excuse to discriminate and be hateful towards pick your minority of choice rather than actually trying to solve any real problem. It's based on hate and anyone who participates should be ashamed.

 

[misterhippo]

Me

 

[unloveable27]

Yeah the blackpill is obviously the truth. I wish I didn't crave love or affection.
If I could I would kill my desire for a partner (regular castration wouldn't solve emotional loneliness)
I wish love didn't exist so no one got to experience it since I can't.

 

[Asya]

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[Not_A_Seagull]

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i cant lie i geuinely did not expect this post to blow up like this

I'm not white, i'm short, i'm not rich, and i look mid so tell me how I could pull women so much prettier than me. I am maybe 5/10 at best and yet I could attract people so tell me how is that possible if what this guy says is true.

perhaps its your area? you looks (some people say there a 5/10 but there actually 8/10 or like really good looking i cant lie)? im not you, i do not possess the same mentality or personality as you. It's good to hear that you had success, but just because you had success doesn't mean I will because at the end of the day im not anyone but me.

 

[fadedghost]

It's not "i know a guy" I know MORE than one. I could count so many like literally i'm talking about more than 50 people. Don't you have relatives, classmates, friends? Do you think they're all good looking? I'll read the studies now and tell you what I think about them but seriously stop being so close-minded. The real issue is your personality.

You're just making shit up instead of analyzing data,

If you are in a major city and know 1000 people and are 20 and good looking, yes, there may be 50 ugly short dudes in your circle who have girlfriends. They are possibly there because of random chance, being rich, knowing hot guys (being the best friend of someone good looking having grown up in the same town), or just having a huge dick or being really funny and hooking up with a so-so friend of a hot girl, but reality is reality and your little worldview of your reality is not statistical data.

There may be 4000 ugly dudes in your city who you aren't noticing because they don't go out because they kept being treated poorly. You're noticing 50 dudes who are ugly who happen to be lucky or unusual and going "see, it's personality" because you can't fathom math and statistics.

This polyannaish "Well, personality matters" is bullshit, the data shows it's bullshit, but it makes some people feel better.

Believe in black pill stuff, or don't, but your reasoning is flawed. You're literally just as bad as the people who don't believe in global warming because they don't understand math. Math is math, data is data. Anecdotal evidence like "but it was cold in my city for 3 weeks" does not change major statistical trends.

 

[jengablocks]

breaking news .. ! men find out that some ppl are born with immutable characteristics that impede their ability to live a full, fulfilling life in some capacity. misogyny ensues

sorryyyy that is a bit mean and sarcastic.. u can kill me if u want :3 !

i do wonder sometimes whether some individuals actually like women, or just like the way women's bodies look. this stuff is usually framed almost like in the context of random hookups, which makes sense to me, attractiveness would matter to people there. but i'm not sure if i am too bothered about what someone looks like for purposes of a long-term intimate relationship.

like, do people find 70-year-old postmenopausal people particularly "attractive"? you'll have to be old eventually yourself, like, i would imagine someone's ability to sympathize or communicate effectively and openly would be near the top of the list for anyone's priorities in a relationship.

 

[U. A.]

i do wonder sometimes whether some individuals actually like women, or just like the way women's bodies look.

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[aufrechtm7]

You're just making shit up instead of analyzing data,

If you are in a major city and know 1000 people and are 20 and good looking, yes, there may be 50 ugly short dudes in your circle who have girlfriends. They are possibly there because of random chance, being rich, knowing hot guys (being the best friend of someone good looking having grown up in the same town), or just having a huge dick or being really funny and hooking up with a so-so friend of a hot girl, but reality is reality and your little worldview of your reality is not statistical data.

There may be 4000 ugly dudes in your city who you aren't noticing because they don't go out because they kept being treated poorly. You're noticing 50 dudes who are ugly who happen to be lucky or unusual and going "see, it's personality" because you can't fathom math and statistics.

This polyannaish "Well, personality matters" is bullshit, the data shows it's bullshit, but it makes some people feel better.

Believe in black pill stuff, or don't, but your reasoning is flawed. You're literally just as bad as the people who don't believe in global warming because they don't understand math. Math is math, data is data. Anecdotal evidence like "but it was cold in my city for 3 weeks" does not change major statistical trends.

Except Yuri wasn't making anything up, they're using anecdotes to disprove ideology which is completely valid. Most of your comment is (unsurprisingly) completely speculative, baseless, and filled with made up data.

Having personality obviously isn't the end all be all trait to getting a girlfriend, people are more complex than that…but to sit here and act like you can't get a girlfriend because you're short or "ugly" (based on what???).

The data doesn't prove what you think it does and you need to stop acting like it does, it's ignorant at best and manipulative at worst.

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That statistic is genuinely insane lmfao, jesus christ