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RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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1. You don't become Andre Tate just because you defend Andrew Tate. I'm not quite sure what's the point of your post.
2. Imagine defending this douche bag. Even if he is innocent, right now there are plenty of things that point towards his guilt.

He said repeatedly that women are property of men and they're partially responsible when they get raped. So much for his character.

Regarding the legal case, there are several victims that came forward about the allegations. Two American women were found who claimed they were hold against their will at his property after the US embassy alerted Romanian authorities about their whereabouts. I don't think that happens for no reason. There are more victims who told the same story. And if the police raid your house, arrest you and put you into detention for 30(!) days in Europe, there is usually some kind of evidence that justifies that type of action. It's very rare that the police does that in European countries if they don't have probable cause. Either way, something tells me your post is gonna age badly. We'll see.
 
DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
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1. You don't become Andre Tate just because you defend Andrew Tate. I'm not quite sure what's the point of your post.
2. Imagine defending this douche bag. Even if he is innocent, right now there are plenty of things that point towards his guilt.

He said repeatedly that women are property of men and they're partially responsible when they get raped. So much for his character.

Regarding the legal case, there are several victims that came forward about the allegations. Two American women were found who claimed they were hold against their will at his property after the US embassy alerted Romanian authorities about their whereabouts. I don't think that happens for no reason. There are more victims who told the same story. And if the police raid your house, arrest you and put you into detention for 30(!) days in Europe, there is usually some kind of evidence that justifies that type of action. It's very rare that the police does that in European countries if they don't have probable cause. Either way, something tells me your post is gonna age badly. We'll see.
You... Considering your beef with me, I'm not gonna waste my time with you. You're already being overly presumptuous and looking for reasons to dispise anyone who thinks differently from you. But yeah, I guess we'll see.
Also, IMHO, if you have time to learn so much about an internet influencer and do all this "research", and get all offended by the opinions of others, then you can be spending your time more productively.

Ironic
Um... I think you're sadly mistaken. I've done my part of the research, and for the record, I haven't thrown around insults around, I gave criticism. Maybe I was being abrasive in my first post, but... compared to the majority of you dunking on Tate, kicking him while he's down, but I didn't throw out assumptions. And the IQ and misery thing was more like an observation than anything. And what was all that calling me a mess and saying presumptuous things?

And like I said, just because he's arrested for an alleged crime doesn't mean he's guilty.

Honestly, anytime someone says something you don't agree with, you call them a misogynist, incel, a fascist, or a soon-to-be mass shooter. That's where my criticism comes from.

Not to mention, all I was telling you was to just think for once.
 
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Razz_Goku

Razz_Goku

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Aug 26, 2018
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Let's not fight guys and that too on suicide forum . People are already on low point here and we should get along to get whatever support we can as some of us don't have any person irl to talk to .

Sending love and hugs to you all . đź’•
 
Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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I'm really disgusted by anyone that defends Andrew Tate. You guys are beyond disgusting. You support someone who advocates rape & violence against women among other things. I hope they throw the book at him.

"In 2017, Tate said that depression is not a real illness, receiving significant backlash."
"Tate stated that he decided to move to Romania because it was easier to be absolved of rape charges in Eastern Europe. The sentencing for sex crimes is also less in Romania."
 
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Razz_Goku

Razz_Goku

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Aug 26, 2018
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I'm really disgusted by anyone that defends Andrew Tate. You guys are beyond disgusting. You support someone who advocates rape & violence against women among other things. I hope they throw the book at him.

"In 2017, Tate said that depression is not a real illness, receiving significant backlash."
"Tate stated that he decided to move to Romania because it was easier to be absolved of rape charges in Eastern Europe. The sentencing for sex crimes is also less in Romania."
Hi , i am interested in getting the source on the stuff he said . I have been researching into him to find out about his testimony he spoke of.

I do remember the depression not real thing stuff said but can you send me the video where he said about rape stuff. Currently o search on YouTube on " Andrew tate admits rape " only the news of arrest come."
 
Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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Hi , i am interested in getting the source on the stuff he said . I have been researching into him to find out about his testimony he spoke of.

I do remember the depression not real thing stuff said but can you send me the video where he said about rape stuff. Currently o search on YouTube on " Andrew tate admits rape " only the news of arrest come."
He/youtube deleted that video, but not before it had been viewed. Maybe there is a copy of it online. I'm about to play some Fortnite with the flatmate though so I don't have time to review a few 10 minute videos.



Maybe this one.
News stories on it:





If you can't see it you just read between the lines. Statistically nobody gets convicted from false accusations of rape as police can see right through that("even" Western LE that he complains about), barely nobody would even get falsely accused. The only reason to move to an entire country known for prolific sex trafficking and lax sex crime laws would be if you have something to worry about. There's too much evidence here.

Honestly, can you imagine moving to a country (40% of the reason, his own words) because its easier to get absolved from sex crimes? How can anyone see that in a good light is beyond me.

I gotta log to play Fortnite now see ya, its great that you are being more open-minded than some people who just idolise someone who says a lot of trashy things.
 
Razz_Goku

Razz_Goku

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He/youtube deleted that video, but not before it had been viewed. Maybe there is a copy of it online. I'm about to play some Fortnite with the flatmate though so I don't have time to review a few 10 minute videos.



Maybe this one.
News stories on it:





If you can't see it you just read between the lines. Statistically nobody gets convicted from false accusations of rape as police can see right through that("even" Western LE that he complains about), barely nobody would even get falsely accused. The only reason to move to an entire country known for prolific sex trafficking and lax sex crime laws would be if you have something to worry about. There's too much evidence here.

Honestly, can you imagine moving to a country (40% of the reason, his own words) because its easier to get absolved from sex crimes? How can anyone see that in a good light is beyond me.

I gotta log to play Fortnite now see ya, its great that you are being more open-minded than some people who just idolise someone who says a lot of trashy things.

Hi . thanks for the reply. I looked into this and i find this guy to be filled with red flag. Red flag in sense that he is not someone I would want to admire. There are other men who are really better role model but Tate speaks such stuff to be in hot light. It seems he has narcissictic personality disorder . He sees the world in black and white , people are more complicated than that and his constant flexing is also annoying. The fact that he made 2 min video as response to Greta one short post tells that he does not let go. Definitly not the guy who want to be admired.

On other side , he does speak some motivational stuff so i think thats why @DetachedDreamer97 follows him. Today I was watching a video of Vlad the impaler . When there were documentaries of him impaling children , men and women that he deemed unfit were justified and he was being labelled as hero in comment section of youtube videos. It feels like a cult is formed because a person sees that person as a part of one community . A person may say one good or two thing but that can't overshadow the bad and insane stuff done by that person. I don't like Tate tbh because he seems very arrogant but giving him so much attention is what keeps him afloat. Deprived of attention and he will crumble.

It just a clusterfuck of fighting that result in social media. Thats why i don't dwell in social media so much , there is constant hatred , conflict etc. I will talk to dreamer about this but before i do that i wanna say to everyone lets not fight each other. Lets keep it civilized . Thanks <3
 
Exact Change

Exact Change

A life of mistakes
Nov 6, 2022
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There are so many that oppose the direction of understanding the human condition and wish to promote a simple black-and-white, right-and-wrong, male strong/female weak ideal. Tate displays a persona promoting that. He's been able to capitalize on the sex industry and also created a grift to prey on the same men who he pretends to support.

He displays a shallow lifestyle that is attractive to those who are dissatisfied, insecure, and without direction. His "university" is much like Trump university which took advantage of those who were looking for direction, a leader, and a way to create wealth.

Some latch onto the "masculinity" he represents because they need to search for their own.
Others admire his money because they want to be admired and envied as they do Tate.
Cultists will make excuses for those they follow.

Meanwhile, Tate enjoys the money he bleeds from his followers and whatever transgressions he can get away with. He is very much like the MAGA movement.
 
DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
1,402
He/youtube deleted that video, but not before it had been viewed. Maybe there is a copy of it online. I'm about to play some Fortnite with the flatmate though so I don't have time to review a few 10 minute videos.



Maybe this one.
News stories on it:





If you can't see it you just read between the lines. Statistically nobody gets convicted from false accusations of rape as police can see right through that("even" Western LE that he complains about), barely nobody would even get falsely accused. The only reason to move to an entire country known for prolific sex trafficking and lax sex crime laws would be if you have something to worry about. There's too much evidence here.

Honestly, can you imagine moving to a country (40% of the reason, his own words) because its easier to get absolved from sex crimes? How can anyone see that in a good light is beyond me.

I gotta log to play Fortnite now see ya, its great that you are being more open-minded than some people who just idolise someone who says a lot of trashy things.

It seems I goofed up on one of your points. He did throw out some clothes and belongings and threw the girl out of the house.

I had little to no idea what you were talking about on that part and thought you were talking about something else. So, I'll admit I made a mistake.

 
Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
3,434
Hi . thanks for the reply. I looked into this and i find this guy to be filled with red flag. Red flag in sense that he is not someone I would want to admire. There are other men who are really better role model but Tate speaks such stuff to be in hot light. It seems he has narcissictic personality disorder . He sees the world in black and white , people are more complicated than that and his constant flexing is also annoying. The fact that he made 2 min video as response to Greta one short post tells that he does not let go. Definitly not the guy who want to be admired.
He's just in it for the money. Selfish bastard, but I suspect he's far worse than that, and the rumours and things he says from his own mouth are true. I hope he gets convicted.

Off to play fortnite again, I might be moving out tomorrow so last chance to play with flatmate.
 
DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
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The allegations were DEBUNKED!!!

Told ya! You fell for a psyop!

 
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DetachedDreamer97

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You know... you guys talk about how I'm bullying people into changing their minds, but all I did was tell you to research, while you guys resort to insults and mockery.

But you know what? Fuck it... It's not only ludicrous you believe a fucking pizza box is what got Andrew Tate arrested, but terrifying to realize that none of you genuinely care about the sex trafficking victims.

You just hate him so bad that you'd rather him be guilty than for there to not be victims. The fact you all believe in the media rather than doing research and thinking critically tells me all there is to know about you. You claim to be against Nazis killing the Jews and all, but the way I see it, you're the type to literally do the same thing because you're led to believe you're fighting for the right cause. You're all genuinely horrible people, and you deserve to be where you are.

What a shame. A bunch of hateful slave-minded individuals.
 
Maudlin

Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
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I really don't know much of anything about this Tate guy, at all.
Apparently he was a pimp? Yes? No?

Supposedly he can fight?

Supposedly he got some chick I don't know mad at him (imagine that!). lol

What I wonder is, with everything else going on in the world... why does anybody give a single fuck about the domestic troubles of some Romanian pimp?

I really don't get it. Not sure I want to. Seems like just another distraction to me... and not a very good one.
 
RainAndSadness

RainAndSadness

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@DetachedDreamer97 here is a video in which incriminating claims of Andrew Tate are analyzed by a laywer. And in a court of law these claims will be subject of the investigation. There is a pretty high chance that all the people who defend him now will look really bad in a few months. And look, what's preferrable? To say "I don't know" or to defend a potential sex trafficker? If this guy was Epstein, you would - no doubt - defend Jeffrey Epstein now. It's quite obvious you like his attitude, but if that's the line you draw when it comes to defending sex traffickers, well... that's your problem.


The allegations were DEBUNKED!!!

Hmh, yeah. Someone rambling for 5 minutes is totally "debunking" the allegations. Sometimes I wish I was that simple minded. But it's a good thing this narcissist couldn't keep his mouth shut.

 
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GenesAndEnvironment

GenesAndEnvironment

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I have nightmares about getting into a(nother) debate with Rain or Chinaski. Final boss energy.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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@DetachedDreamer97 here is a video in which incriminating claims of Andrew Tate are analyzed by a laywer. And in a court of law these claims will be subject of the investigation. There is a pretty high chance that all the people who defend him now will look really bad in a few months. And look, what's preferrable? To say "I don't know" or to defend a potential sex trafficker? If this guy was Epstein, you would - no doubt - defend Jeffrey Epstein now. It's quite obvious you like his attitude, but if that's the line you draw when it comes to defending sex traffickers, well... that's your problem.




Hmh, yeah. Someone rambling for 5 minutes is totally "debunking" the allegations. Sometimes I wish I was that simple minded. But it's a good thing this narcissist couldn't keep his mouth shut.


Okay, bot. If you believe pizza boxes are what exposed him, then it's whatever. Though the pizza box is a hoax made up by a trans activist who spreads disinformation. Y'all just aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

 
Nolan96

Nolan96

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I don't like Andrew Tate but I do feel bad for him. He seems like a natural byproduct of the shitty times we're living through. The people who leap to judge him are almost always even worse people than he is. I hope he's okay, receives a fair evidence-based trial, and doesn't suffer too much.
 
DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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I don't like Andrew Tate but I do feel bad for him. He seems like a natural byproduct of the shitty times we're living through. The people who leap to judge him are almost always even worse people than he is. I hope he's okay, receives a fair evidence-based trial, and doesn't suffer too much.
Finally! A reasonable person! I mean, one doesn't have to even be a fan. It's about fair trial. It is how things should be.

Not "guilty til proven innocent"... think of Johnny Depp.
 
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Suicidebydeath

Suicidebydeath

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Nov 25, 2021
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That is potentially triggering for anyone that has been through some shit.

"I hope this pedophile rapist mlm scam artist with 11 luxury cars is going to be okay and judged fairly. Poor people like him are persecuted too much and he's a much better person than everyone else."

What is shitty is that people like that are allowed to even exist. Why shouldn't someone suffer if they made hundreds of other people suffer, there is no excuse for that.
If this guy was Epstein, you would - no doubt - defend Jeffrey Epstein now
You are right. I am just waiting for the next person to say "Jeffrey Epstein did nothing wrong, he was a victim." at this point.
Okay, bot.
Whatever you say drone boi. First post of yours I've read since I started this thread and you're calling someone else a bot. Maybe you need to start looking at yourself, you're the one who is unthinkingly holding onto to an untenable position here.
terrifying to realize that none of you genuinely care about the sex trafficking victims.

You just hate him
You're making yourself look like a real stupid zero-effort debate troll. You would think that when you wrote that in that exact order you might realise there's a correlation, but I guess its real difficult for you to think of more than one thing at a time or draw lines between anything.

You can't just write things like "nobody cares" and pretend they're fact, obviously you're projecting your own "realizations". I know that would be amazingly helpful for you to be able to turn make-believe fantasies into reality since you're clearly full of shit, but sadly for you things don't work that way.
 
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DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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That is potentially triggering for anyone that has been through some shit.

"I hope this pedophile rapist mlm scam artist with 11 luxury cars is going to be okay and judged fairly. Poor people like him are persecuted too much and he's a much better person than everyone else."

What is shitty is that people like that are allowed to even exist. Why shouldn't someone suffer if they made hundreds of other people suffer, there is no excuse for that.

You are right. I am just waiting for the next person to say "Jeffrey Epstein did nothing wrong, he was a victim." at this point.

Whatever you say drone boi. First post of yours I've read since I started this thread and you're calling someone else a bot. Maybe you need to start looking at yourself, you're the one who is unthinkingly holding onto to an untenable position here.

You're making yourself look like a real stupid zero-effort debate troll. You would think that when you wrote that in that exact order you might realise there's a correlation, but I guess its real difficult for you to think of more than one thing at a time or draw lines between anything.

You can't just write things like "nobody cares" and pretend they're fact, obviously you're projecting your own "realizations". I know that would be amazingly helpful for you to be able to turn make-believe fantasies into reality since you're clearly full of shit, but sadly for you things don't work that way.
Aronanto homelander
Okay, leftoid.
 
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toomuchtimetodie

"to be overly conscious is a sickness"
Mar 13, 2020
296
It could well all be a show to keep the masses guessing, thinking that shuts actuallh happening and certain people are carving a different path, when he is probably working for the machine speaking some truths knowing the willfully dumb, ignorant, and quite evil masses will blindly follow. Most in the spotlight are puppets.

Whether it's a show or not the "this is why you should recycle pizza boxes" crack was funny.
 
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Sep 26, 2021
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I really don't know much of anything about this Tate guy, at all.
Apparently he was a pimp? Yes? No?

Supposedly he can fight?

Supposedly he got some chick I don't know mad at him (imagine that!). lol

What I wonder is, with everything else going on in the world... why does anybody give a single fuck about the domestic troubles of some Romanian pimp?

I really don't get it. Not sure I want to. Seems like just another distraction to me... and not a very good one.

H/ ws a championshp kck-boxr turnd realty persnalty & he bcme a typ of guru fr lts of men & bys globlly

H/ = Britsh-Amercn bt livng in Rmania bcse th/ laws r diffrnt ovr thre

@DetachedDreamer97 slf cn apprci8 wht T8 hs dne fr u & tht wht h/ sys hs helpd ur confdnce - also wll dne fr askng tht girl out

Slf C Andrw T8 as a symtpm of wht lfe = lke fr mny men a.t.m bcse if mn wre hppy thn thy wld nt b as attrctd 2 hm as thy R

Slf am also vry mch of opinn also of 'inncnt untl provn gulty' s/ wll w8 & C hw stuatn plys out

Howevr tho slf admt tht am nt fan of hs eithr & thnk tht hs rhetric = eqully damging 2 mny as it mght b postve 2 othrs

Hs commnts abt womn b-ing rsponsble fr SA & r*pe rghtly mke womn angry evrywhre -- slf hve bn assaultd multple tmes & 0 of thse tmes ws slf b-havng hw hs rhetorc dscribes - slf ws walkng hme frm schl or sittng on a train or w8tng @ bus-stp wth grp of frnds

Thre = also a dble-standrd of hm syng tht womn r partlly respnsble fr thr asslts if thy hve pt thmslves in vulnerble positns whle T8 = effctvly doin th/ sme thng 2 hmslf -- if h/ = goin2 b sleepng wth lrge numbrs of womn in genrl & playng multple womn simltansly thn h/ = openng hmslf up 2 thse typs of accusatns -- takng advntge of sme1 = a perptr8trs decsn rgardlss of gendr bt hs argmnts alwys g/ in favr of mn & g/ agnst womn

Andrw T8s cmmnts r havng real-wrld affcts in schools amng teengrs whch teachrs hve bn strugglng wth - fr Xample -

"Organisations have run sessions in 50 schools on online misogyny. Teachers have raised Tate's influence in every one. One teacher talked about a lesson on sexual consent in which a boy quoted Tate, saying if a woman went out alone at night and was attacked it was her fault. Conway says teenagers also mention Tate as a form of "micro-aggression" towards female teachers.

In one session an organisation discussed the sexist meme "make me a sandwich", used by some men on social media to belittle women. "A female teacher said: 'I've got a lad in year 10 who always writes 'MMAS' at the bottom of my homework,'" he says. "She hadn't known what it meant until then. But he was trying to humiliate her" --- https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/andrew-tate-misogyny-schools-vulnerable-boys

Andrw T8 knws tht hs demgraphc wll b yng mn & bys bcse sharng hm on socl mdia = prt of hs busnss pln -- h/ = makng money frm hs persona w/o cnsidrng th/ impct of thse knds of cmmnts wll hve or rathr ignres it bcse contrversy brngs hm ÂŁÂŁ

H/ opnly admts 2 gs-lightng womn whch = abusve & tlks abt hw h/ wll only b invlvd wth youngr womn bcse thy r mre inncnt & inxperiencd bt h/ also hires womn 2 b sx-workrs -- hs actns d/ nt mtch hs wrds

'makng sme1 fll in lve wth u' 2 mke ÂŁÂŁ = emotnl mnipulatn -- no1 wh/ rspcts womn wld emotnlly use womn on mass-scale lke tht - wht AT dscribd ss xactly hw 'Lovrboy methd' wrks s/ whthr h/ = currntly convictd or nt = rght tht wht h/ sd shld b investg8td -- https://www.government.nl/topics/human-trafficking/romeo-pimps-loverboys

S/ whle wht h/ sys ds hlp mny ppl hs rhetorc = stll damgng 2 othrs & I.m.o = irresponsble

Rgardng hs busness modl sme1 on YT analysd Hustlrs Unversty whch ws nt qute MLM bt ws 'affili8 marktng' whch = simlr -- am awre th/ vdeo titl = biasd bt th/ analyss = reasnbly objectve

 
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