An offer to all

[Marine]

Certainly, it could be attainable for you, we don't know the future after all. It's not over until it's over, and so forth. What I want to stress is, this "could" just reflects our uncertainty of the future, what it doesn't and cannot reflect, is some range of possible futures and appointing us as selectors of which future the universe evolves into. Only a god could do such a thing

I don't believe in a god not that the universe decides for me. I believe in possibilities. I must if I want to live. I think that someone who wants to live, is strongly determined to do whatever it takes, keeps an open mind and constantly reasses one's knowledge, attitude and behaviour, without ever giving up, must find a way. That's my hope and what I'm trying to figure out, that's all. I just refuse for that to be taken away, I need help, not its opposite. I certainly don't know the truth of how that works which is why I ask for help.

 

[Theanswer]

Yes. Didn't work and I'm dying because my needs have been unmet for too long so it's suicidal to do that.

My ideal life would be to find true substantial and lasting love with a fully compatible partner, and consequently truly exist and have a place in the world, be skinny, young, healthy and beautiful, and fulfilled in my daily life. Free from trauma, curse and hell. Having real friends. Living in an environment where I can be well, doing purposeful work that I love and has a positive transformative impact on the world.

I totally hear you. Loneliness is painful, I live it. People need people - we aren't plants, per se. Sure, there are some that say they are fine being alone, don't need people in order to be happy. That's is not my experience nor anyone's that I have ever met or have been friends with.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I don't believe in a god not that the universe decides for me. I believe in possibilities. I must if I want to live. I think that someone who wants to live, is strongly determined to do whatever it takes, keeps an open mind and constantly reasses one's knowledge, attitude and behaviour, without ever giving up, must find a way. That's my hope and what I'm trying to figure out, that's all. I just refuse for that to be taken away, I need help, not its opposite. I certainly don't know the truth of how that works which is why I ask for help.

If you believe that you're the ultimate steward of your own future, you must then apply this to everyone else as well. Do you believe then e.g. that fat people simply choose to remain fat, and could change at any point in time? So in every moment, they are actively choosing to reject slimness? , They're casually declining being skinny as if it were something as trivial as a conference refreshment?

 

[Marine]

If you believe that you're the ultimate steward of your own future, you must then apply this to everyone else as well. Do you believe then e.g. that fat people simply choose to remain fat, and could change at any point in time? So in every moment, they are actively choosing to reject slimness? , They're casually declining being skinny as if it were something as trivial as a conference refreshment?

You seem to be distorting what I said. I don't pretend to hold the truth for others btw, I'm only responsible for my own life. I believe that we are influenced by our environment and circumstances but I hope we can eventually carve our own path.

But I've posted something about that specific thing, so I'll quote myself :

Fat people are fat for a reason, may it be trauma, stress, bad education, conditioning or habits. They should get the support and help they deserve so they can safely and painlessly lose the excess weight. This society has the stupid tendency to do the exact opposite of what people need to thrive. It's time to realize and change that toxic system.

But actually I just found an inspirational speaker someone posted a video of on this site that makes everything make sense for me and gives me hope, and I've found it's beneficial to choose to believe and try it with an open mind regarless and see if that allows me to fix things :



It just explains the exact curse like phenomenon I've experienced and how to fix it so I'll head in that direction and see where it takes me.

I think we all have our own truths and what resonates with us, including the timing at which it resonates. I'll never impose on someone else my truth, but since we have the same basic needs I do hope we can inspire and help each other.

 

[MisFortunate]

Flying Away, you are a gem! Thank you for offering your support and compassion.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Fat people are fat for a reason, may it be trauma, stress, bad education, conditioning or habits. They should get the support and help they deserve so they can safely and painlessly lose the excess weight. This society has the stupid tendency to do the exact opposite of what people need to thrive. It's time to realize and change that toxic system.

Do you think there's an effective therapy out there for every fat person? We just have to say the right words to them, or instruct them correctly? That's a bold claim IMO.

You seem to be distorting what I said. I don't pretend to hold the truth for others btw, I'm only responsible for my own life.

Since we all inhabit the same reality, there must be some universal dogma which binds all of us. To have one set of 'rules of operation' for yourself and then another for everyone else is inconsistent. It means you're talking about subjective perceptions and not universal truth.

 

[Marine]

Do you think there's an effective therapy out there for every fat person? We just have to say the right words to them, or instruct them correctly? That's a bold claim IMO.


Since we all inhabit the same reality, there must be some universal dogma which binds all of us. To have one set of 'rules of operation' for yourself and then another for everyone else is inconsistent. It means you're talking about subjective perceptions and not universal truth.

I never said the word therapy, I don't think that' what's needed here. People have needs and these must be met, that's all. They must onlyy find the way to meet those and that takes care of the symptoms, such as fat, of imbalance or disconnection. Fat is nothing more than disconnection.

I don't believe in dogma, I believe in principles. I think there being universal principles is not contradictory to having your own truth or knowing.

But you're free to believe whatever works for you. I'm not here to debate or argue but to meet my needs.

 

[Flying Away]

Flying Away, you are a gem! Thank you for offering your support and compassion.

Thank you for the compliment

I never said the word therapy, I don't think that' what's needed here. People have needs and these must be met, that's all. They must onlyy find the way to meet those and that takes care of the symptoms, such as fat, of imbalance or disconnection. Fat is nothing more than disconnection.

I don't believe in dogma, I believe in principles. I think there being universal principles is not contradictory to having your own truth or knowing.

But you're free to believe whatever works for you. I'm not here to debate or argue but to meet my needs.

Guys I started this thread because I want to help people. Maybe you could take this to a private chat or your own thread. Thank you guys

 

[toforigivelife]

I don't expect much of a response because I would like to help people where I can. I want to be a listening ear while I have time left. If you want to chat or some advice I will attempt to provide it. I'm not young but can offer some life experience and 45 years of suffering with mental health issues. I do not judge and respect everyone's wishes. Occasionally we all need to be heard. I'm here to listen.

 

[Marktheghost]

How do you overcome shyness?

 

[Flying Away]

How do you overcome shyness?

That's a very good question. It's mainly about courage and patience. Pm me if you would like to.

 

[Marktheghost]

I've got courage and patience. Why am I still unable to talk to people?