
Xocoyotziin
Scorpion
- Sep 5, 2020
- 402
I think it's understandable to be reflexively protective of people who you think might be more vulnerable or less experienced than you.
I also think it's often a lot easier to see the value in other's lives than your own when you're suicidal, so that when you know someone else who's suicidal and similarly doesn't see the value in their own life the way you do in theirs, it's natural to attempt to inform of this value just in case it's a causative factor for their state of mind and maybe to provide a counternarrative to the way they think about themselves and the world.
But I think there are also a couple of problems here. One, age is actually a pretty superficial reason for valuing the life of one person over another, and it'll show if it's the only reason you can come up with for valuing someone. Two, it's a little patronizing to assume that because someone has fewer life experiences than you in terms of raw time alive that this means they're less capable of understanding their relationship with themselves, others and the world to the point where they can't determine for themselves what they want those relationships to be and who/where they want to be, even if that means death- none/nowhere/no one. I for one can attest that in some respects I saw things much more clearly when I was younger, thou gh not in others, and I don't believe life experience necessarily follows a constant uphill trajectory of something vague like maturity, instead it's one shifting state.
But like, I seriously wouldn't blame myself too hard if I were you, and I don't think it's a sign of like, psychopathy or something lol. Is it the best way to go about things, especially here? Probably not. But maybe there's another way you can convey the value that you see in others? The protective feelings themselves don't strike me as wrong as long as you don't presumptuously insert yourself in a paternal kind of role. If you really want to "benevolently" manipulate people into survival it seems to me the way to go is understanding people when they're vulnerable instead of forcing your own agenda. That's what I gather a lot of people are really looking for here. And that's something you can't really force I don't think, it happens organically or it doesn't and if it doesn't it's not your role and that's okay.
I also think it's often a lot easier to see the value in other's lives than your own when you're suicidal, so that when you know someone else who's suicidal and similarly doesn't see the value in their own life the way you do in theirs, it's natural to attempt to inform of this value just in case it's a causative factor for their state of mind and maybe to provide a counternarrative to the way they think about themselves and the world.
But I think there are also a couple of problems here. One, age is actually a pretty superficial reason for valuing the life of one person over another, and it'll show if it's the only reason you can come up with for valuing someone. Two, it's a little patronizing to assume that because someone has fewer life experiences than you in terms of raw time alive that this means they're less capable of understanding their relationship with themselves, others and the world to the point where they can't determine for themselves what they want those relationships to be and who/where they want to be, even if that means death- none/nowhere/no one. I for one can attest that in some respects I saw things much more clearly when I was younger, thou gh not in others, and I don't believe life experience necessarily follows a constant uphill trajectory of something vague like maturity, instead it's one shifting state.
But like, I seriously wouldn't blame myself too hard if I were you, and I don't think it's a sign of like, psychopathy or something lol. Is it the best way to go about things, especially here? Probably not. But maybe there's another way you can convey the value that you see in others? The protective feelings themselves don't strike me as wrong as long as you don't presumptuously insert yourself in a paternal kind of role. If you really want to "benevolently" manipulate people into survival it seems to me the way to go is understanding people when they're vulnerable instead of forcing your own agenda. That's what I gather a lot of people are really looking for here. And that's something you can't really force I don't think, it happens organically or it doesn't and if it doesn't it's not your role and that's okay.
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