Almost Daily SN Departures On The Forum

[CaptainT]

Compared to Exit and the Peaceful Pill Handbook data, it's becoming clear to me that this forum must have way more case studies and references for SN end-of-life than anything else out there.

In the last three days we've had three dear members seem to pass on using SN... @Alchemist on Friday, @Yes on Saturday and @khw777 last night. Respect and love to all of them if they did cross over, hoping it was calm and quiet for each one.

I know we can't confirm if a member has really passed away or just logged off, but the increasing amount of SN exits is making this forum a huge SN data set (it must surely be the most common CTB method on here right now).

Just thinking aloud but I feel less alone knowing that so many others on here are not just hypothesising about or researching SN, but are actually putting their faith in it and using it to (hopefully) have a peaceful end to their suffering.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I've noticed this as well, there is alot of data here for it being successful. However the way the members here are treated is more with sympathy and compassion, less like test subjects in comparison to EXIT.

I don't think this approach to it should change either, nor am I suggesting that you think it should change. I've only been here for a short time but I feel like some great people have passed through here. I wish peace on all of them past, present, and future.

 

[WhiteDespair]

Compared to Exit and the Peaceful Pill Handbook data, it's becoming clear to me that this forum must have way more case studies and references for SN end-of-life than anything else out there.

In the last three days we've had three dear members seem to pass on using SN... @Alchemist on Friday, @Yes on Saturday and @khw777 last night. Respect and love to all of them if they did cross over, hoping it was calm and quiet for each one.

I know we can't confirm if a member has really passed away or just logged off, but the increasing amount of SN exits is making this forum a huge SN data set (it must surely be the most common CTB method on here right now).

Just thinking aloud but I feel less alone knowing that so many others on here are not just hypothesising about or researching SN, but are actually putting their faith in it and using it to (hopefully) have a peaceful end to their suffering.

Very pleased to find out about SN and very grateful for @Stan and his work and the megathread. At the very least it means I don't have to go into the hood looking for diesel.

I really can't type.

 

[Rez_MbChB]

Yeah SN pretty fucking hard to survive as well, and fast although when I took it didnt have a pleasant time. Happy to know there is such an effective way out though. This forum is good, although one of the darker places on the surface web, I have found most everyone I meet here is sympathetic and compassionate and jsut wants everyones suffering to end however they choose. Definately think that a lot of data could be sourced from this forum as well.

 

[CaptainT]

I've noticed this as well, there is alot of data here for it being successful. However the way the members here are treated is more with sympathy and compassion, less like test subjects in comparison to EXIT.

I don't think this approach to it should change either, nor am I suggesting that you think it should change. I've only been here for a short time but I feel like some great people have passed through here. I wish peace on all of them past, present, and future.

Likewise. Horrible thinking of them as being 'test subjects,' I too love the compassion and care on here. But is there a way to collect all this information to a) remember them b) note down what worked for them for a successful exit ? Hope that doesn't come across as too cold. If I use SN next week I'll be documenting it until my final moments I hope

 

[AnxiouslyDepressed]

Yeah SN pretty fucking hard to survive as well, and fast although when I took it didnt have a pleasant time. Happy to know there is such an effective way out though. This forum is good, although one of the darker places on the surface web, I have found most everyone I meet here is sympathetic and compassionate and jsut wants everyones suffering to end however they choose. Definately think that a lot of data could be sourced from this forum as well.

In what way was it unpleasant if you don't mind me asking?

 

[CaptainT]

Yeah SN pretty fucking hard to survive as well, and fast although when I took it didnt have a pleasant time. Happy to know there is such an effective way out though. This forum is good, although one of the darker places on the surface web, I have found most everyone I meet here is sympathetic and compassionate and jsut wants everyones suffering to end however they choose. Definately think that a lot of data could be sourced from this forum as well.

Can you share your experiences of surviving it @Rez_MbChB? Apologies if you already have elsewhere

 

[RainAndSadness]

It's a very cheap and accessible method. The substance is legal in most countries and easily to get from the internet. Like, it's the perfect method if you don't want to spend a lot of money on methods and maybe even worry about customs. For me, N is gonna remain my main method but SN seems like a very comfortable N light when it comes to reliability and peacefulness.

 

[I screwed up]

Completely agree to everything said abt sn above.. Its my method too .. Only one aspect of method that I dread / dislike is the 48 hr regime , those 48 hrs may feel like being on death row, I mean the SI would be super high and the wait will be full of anxiety n agony . hope I dont back out in that time. . . alternative I'd a stat dose maybe I will opt for that but IMO chances of throwing up SN is higher in this case. ...

 

[Stan]

Completely agree to everything said abt sn above.. Its my method too .. Only one aspect of method that I dread / dislike is the 48 hr regime , those 48 hrs may feel like being on death row, I mean the SI would be super high and the wait will be full of anxiety n agony . hope I dont back out in that time. . . alternative I'd a stat dose maybe I will opt for that but IMO chances of throwing up SN is higher in this case. ...

i think it is as the saying says "horses for courses". Some people will get some mental reassurance from doing the 48 hour regimen. I have stated a number of times that the individuals state of mind is always underplayed in any method. One person could have reduced anxiety from doing the 48 hour regimen because it gives the more confidence that it will work. If that is true then why not? Others like me would just want to be able to get it over and done with no build up. Dignitas only use a stat version and their success is plain to see.

Nobody should tell you what is right or wrong for you, you alone are the best person to make that judgement. Just to let you know, I feel exactly the same way about the 48 hour regimen, personally it gives me too much time to ponder. I hope the information you can find regarding SN here in this forum to be of some comfort. It won't answer every question, especially to how SN will react with you. But rest easy that it is not a cyanide type of discomfort, nobody has ever mentioned anything extreme about the symptoms.

 

[Heart of Ice]

alternative I'd a stat dose maybe I will opt for that but IMO chances of throwing up SN is higher in this case. ...

Based on what sources?

Dignitas only use a stat version and their success is plain to see.

Well, to be fair, they use Nembutal, which to my understanding has a lower vomiting risk. This information is only based on the little what I've read about it on here. Nembutal was/is of no interest to me.

Besides, people have certainly died to sodium nitrite poisoning even while vomiting. I can understand that vomiting is unpleasant, but vomiting does not equal failure, so with antiemetics, stat or regimen, we should be "fine".

 

[MeltingHeart]

I wonder if P.Nitschke knows about this site, he could be secretly on here gathering data/ info to use at his seminars

 

[Daniela]

@CaptainT did you get any conclusive answer regarding antiacids Vs no antiacids? After all these daily goodbye threads, does anyone?

 

[CaptainT]

@CaptainT did you get any conclusive answer regarding antiacids Vs no antiacids? After all these daily goodbye threads, does anyone?

Nothing conclusive, I'm just going to go for it without antiacids after domperidone regime and a longer fast.

 

[trynacbt]

I wonder if P.Nitschke knows about this site, he could be secretly on here gathering data/ info to use at his seminars

I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about it but I don't think gathering data from here, with limited info, would be reliable...

 

[Daniela]

Nothing conclusive, I'm just going to go for it without antiacids after domperidone regime and a longer fast.

You mean 2 days fasting? 36 hours?
Thank you for replying.

 

[Jen0804]

Yes
SN is the go-to right now
I don't know what else to say other than I agree with you, love going out to them no matter what's happened successful in ctb or not.. And to anybody else who is actively planning or waiting

 

[CaptainT]

You mean 2 days fasting? 36 hours?
Thank you for replying.

Yep, just to let the domperidone build up. Then take a 20-25mg dose of SN, extra cup ready.

@bubbletea did it without antiacids and a stat dose

 

[MeltingHeart]

I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about it but I don't think gathering data from here, with limited info, would be reliable...

true-mind u -we prob have more than him! know what u mean thou-no way to 100% verify things- I noticed last year he was campaining for people to video there ctb using sn- to help him gather more data and for the benefit of other members- so that can understand it better- id be interested to know if anyone has done that yet- and sent to him I mean.

 

[Nem]

Holy fuck, I hope they Rest In Peace❤

 

[Final Escape]

I can't believe Alchemist is gone He was really nice we chatted a little sometimes.

 

[Nem]

I need to get this done too! Hanging around waiting to feel better has just made me feel worse
Hugs/peace

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Yep, just to let the domperidone build up. Then take a 20-25mg dose of SN, extra cup ready.

@bubbletea did it without antiacids and a stat dose

Didn't I hear somewhere that domperidone doesn't have a cumulative effect?

 

[Nem]

I had a bad experience with domperidone, taken for an unrelated matter and it caused some fairly serious damage. Kind of wish I had never taken it :(
Peace

 

[BleedingHeart]

i think it is as the saying says "horses for courses". Some people will get some mental reassurance from doing the 48 hour regimen. I have stated a number of times that the individuals state of mind is always underplayed in any method. One person could have reduced anxiety from doing the 48 hour regimen because it gives the more confidence that it will work. If that is true then why not? Others like me would just want to be able to get it over and done with no build up. Dignitas only use a stat version and their success is plain to see.

Nobody should tell you what is right or wrong for you, you alone are the best person to make that judgement. Just to let you know, I feel exactly the same way about the 48 hour regimen, personally it gives me too much time to ponder. I hope the information you can find regarding SN here in this forum to be of some comfort. It won't answer every question, especially to how SN will react with you. But rest easy that it is not a cyanide type of discomfort, nobody has ever mentioned anything extreme about the symptoms.

@Stan ive been trying to decide between 48 hour regime and just doing meto stat dose because like you, I am worried about extra anxiety from the extra days of leading up prep. I know it's speculation of course, but if by chance meto causes EPS during the single stat dose, would it be fairly plausible that within such a short time frame (45 mins before SN)- that I probably wouldn't have EPS yet and even if I did that I'd probably still be able to push through to the SN since it's only a 45 min timeframe between the meto stat and SN? I appreciate any thoughts you have.

 

[Stan]

@Stan ive been trying to decide between 48 hour regime and just doing meto stat dose because like you, I am worried about extra anxiety from the extra days of leading up prep. I know it's speculation of course, but if by chance meto causes EPS during the single stat dose, would it be fairly plausible that within such a short time frame (45 mins before SN)- that I probably wouldn't have EPS yet and even if I did that I'd probably still be able to push through to the SN since it's only a 45 min timeframe between the meto stat and SN? I appreciate any thoughts you have.

Its a really valid point. The only suggestion I have which a few members have done is to do a test with a low dose. breaking the tablet in half, taking it and seeing if you get any EPS symptoms. That's not a great scientific way of doing it, but its the only one I have seen being done here. It's down to how much risk you are willing to accept at the end of the day.

 

[CaptainT]

Didn't I hear somewhere that domperidone doesn't have a cumulative effect?

Heard that too, but no harm in getting in my system for a while.

I had a bad experience with domperidone, taken for an unrelated matter and it caused some fairly serious damage. Kind of wish I had never taken it :(
Peace

What was the bad domperidone effect if you don't mind me asking...?

 

[noctiva]

Its a really valid point. The only suggestion I have which a few members have done is to do a test with a low dose. breaking the tablet in half, taking it and seeing if you get any EPS symptoms. That's not a great scientific way of doing it, but its the only one I have seen being done here. It's down to how much risk you are willing to accept at the end of the day.

I'm not sure how valid this approach is to be honest. 5 mg vs 30/40/60 mg, depending which idea for stat you follow, is very different.
I would assume that the dosage determines which side effects you can get, so if you try 5 mg and you're fine, it doesn't automatically follow that you will be fine if you take a higher dose.

I've run a test myself, seeing as I'm slightly worried about EPS and seeing as the good doctor straight up gave me a pack with 100 pills. I took 10 mg 3x (8 h apart) and then a 20 mg dose 8 h after that. I plan on doing 3x10 mg, followed by 20 mg and then 30 mg before SN, so for me, I'm satisfied with the test I ran. For me, I've seen no side effects at all with this regimen and I assume that I'll have full anti-emetic coverage build up. I cannot imagine doing 48h, I would go nuts waiting that long. One day I can do.

 

[CaptainT]

It's a very good question. If we all just took the stat dose of meto (without testing) - 30mg, 45 min before SN - is that even enough time to see EPS effects if it's never entered our system before.

Not to scare people (and if you are, use domperidone) but the reactions to meto sound wild and unpredictable:

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[FTL.Wanderer]

although when I took it didnt have a pleasant time.

Would you mind sharing more? Happy to PM if you'd prefer.