Method AK-47 or shotgun?

[I’vehadenough]

Since I'm learning how to shoot, I'm thinking of going out this way through the mouth. Which one is more lethal, the AK or the shotgun?

 

[Ritter]

Shotgun by far, although if aimed correctly both will do the trick. Make sure to angle it properly (which may take some practice) as many people have blown off their faces and lived.

 

[blackflag1]

Shotgun by far. No surviving a point blank headshot and over with immediately.

 

[Avery Jordan]

Choose a peaceful method. SN is cheap, relative peaceful, legal and easy to get.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Choose a peaceful method. SN is cheap, relative peaceful, legal and easy to get.

Yeah, but how do you know the sn is reliable if you buy it on the internet?

Shotgun by far. No surviving a point blank headshot and over with immediately.

Why shotgun over AK?

 

[sleepy dog]

AK-47 is automatic fire correct? The AK-47 would be more certain to kill you. I am not suggesting you do that. I am just saying the AK-47 would do more damage to something because you would get off more than one shot. I have seen the mess left by an automatic fired gun. There wasn't much left of the head.

 

[I’vehadenough]

AK-47 is automatic fire correct? The AK-47 would be more certain to kill you. I am not suggesting you do that. I am just saying the AK-47 would do more damage to something because you would get off more than one shot. I have seen the mess left by an automatic fired gun. There wasn't much left of the head.

Yes, it's the gun these psychos use in Mass shootings. Supposedly, instant death by one doesn't hurt and the bullet goes straight through you and kills you

 

[blackflag1]

A shotgun with double ought buck will do more than enough damage to end one quickly. Not all AK-47s are automatic. In the US, it is very difficult to be be able to possess fully automatic weapons. You have to have a Class III permit and the fees that come with that are as much as the weapon would cost. Tightly controlled here and very expensive, therefore, the vast majority of assault rifles sold in the US are only semiautomatic. A shotgun is far more devastating in one shot than either an AR-15 or AK-47. You also would not be able to apply trigger pressure after the first shot so full auto will not matter even if you had it.
The mass shooting nuts are mainly using semi auto only. It is difficult to get Class III in the US.
Shotgun does far more damage up close shot for shot than an AK-47.

 

[sleepy dog]

A shotgun with double ought buck will do more than enough damage to end one quickly. Not all AK-47s are automatic. In the US, it is very difficult to be be able to possess fully automatic weapons. You have to have a Class III permit and the fees that come with that are as much as the weapon would cost. Tightly controlled here and very expensive, therefore, the vast majority of assault rifles sold in the US are only semiautomatic. A shotgun is far more devastating in one shot than either an AR-15 or AK-47. You also would not be able to apply trigger pressure after the first shot so full auto will not matter even if you had it.
The mass shooting nuts are mainly using semi auto only. It is difficult to get Class III in the US.
Shotgun does far more damage up close shot for shot than an AK-47.

You are never wrong are you? Holding the trigger of an AK-47 on automatic fire mode would get off more than one shot. It would do more damage than one round from a shotgun. As I said in my first post, I have seen the results of suicide that way. There was very little left of the head.

And the "Class III permit" that you referred to is a license. It cost much less than the weapon.

 

[blackflag1]

I am not wrong here at all. I have experience with weapons did 11 years in the Army. Try to get full auto in the US and tell me how that goes.
I have also treated people with full auto AK 47 injuries in Iraq. Next please.
Class III licensure is not easy to get. You can get AK-47s in the US for under $600. That puts the Class III at very close cost. Do me a favor and try to get a Class III. Tell us how it goes.
Any method with a shotgun or any other gun for that matter will be messy. A shotgun will actually remove a portion of your head. Keep that in mind if you desire an open casket funeral.

 

[Roger]

Some full auto guns have such a rapid rate of fire that it is hard to restrict a burst to two or three rounds.

A few years back four young recruits at an Army base in Southern England shot themselves with SA80 service rifles, which have a full auto capability.
One had two GSW to the head, and another had five to the chest.

 

[magick'sgone]

Blackflag's information is correct.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I am not wrong here at all. I have experience with weapons did 11 years in the Army. Try to get full auto in the US and tell me how that goes.
I have also treated people with full auto AK 47 injuries in Iraq. Next please.
Class III licensure is not easy to get. You can get AK-47s in the US for under $600. That puts the Class III at very close cost. Do me a favor and try to get a Class III. Tell us how it goes.
Any method with a shotgun or any other gun for that matter will be messy. A shotgun will actually remove a portion of your head. Keep that in mind if you desire an open casket funeral.

I don't mind nothing being left of my head because the reason I'm commiting suicide is bc my face was badly disfigured. I'm just looking for a peaceful way to go and I'm scared AF.

 

[sleepy dog]

I would be too.

 

[LonelyLight]

I don't know anything about AKs, but my friend shot herself in the head with a shotgun. There was NOTHING left of her head. Her teeth and brains were on the ceiling.

 

[blackflag1]

Shotgun blast is very devastating at close range. Automatic weapons are a moot point because they are very difficult to acquire in the US and likely impossible to acquire in most EU countries.

 

[Corraled]

Since I'm learning how to shoot, I'm thinking of going out this way through the mouth. Which one is more lethal, the AK or the shotgun?

Heard that shooting in the heart is better. It will obviously stop the blood circulation and you'll lose consciousness. You can be brain dead and kept alive with a respirator, you cant live without a heart.

 

[Wayfaerer]

Shotgun but a 7.62x39 will certainly do the job well.

AK-47 is automatic fire correct? The AK-47 would be more certain to kill you. I am not suggesting you do that. I am just saying the AK-47 would do more damage to something because you would get off more than one shot. I have seen the mess left by an automatic fired gun. There wasn't much left of the head.

When he says "AK-47" he is referring to an AKM that has been remoded to fire only semi-automatic (one shot per trigger pull). Genuine "AK-47's" are actually quite rare as they've only existed for a few years in the late 40's and early 50's. You can't get real machine guns (fully automatic) without some ridiculous paper work even in the US. Shotgun beats it hands down.

 

[LonelyLight]

Heard that shooting in the heart is better. It will obviously stop the blood circulation and you'll lose consciousness. You can be brain dead and kept alive with a respirator, you cant live without a heart.

I've heard the opposite to be honest.. brain stem is the best place to aim for.. instant death you wouldn't even hear the bang of the shot..I'd imagine theres way more room for error with shooting at the chest.. but I am not an expert

 

[Corraled]

I've heard the opposite to be honest.. brain stem is the best place to aim for.. instant death you wouldn't even hear the bang of the shot..I'd imagine theres way more room for error with shooting at the chest.. but I am not an expert

If you shoot at the heart and miss you can shoot again. But make a mistake with the head and you could be left a vegetable.

 

[LonelyLight]

If you shoot at the heart and miss you can shoot again. But make a mistake with the head and you could be left a vegetable.

Provided you are able to pick up the gun again after shooting once..who knows what damage you'd do.. But I see the point your making absolutely.. but just personally think there is less room for error with a shotgun to the brain stem

 

[I’vehadenough]

I don't know anything about AKs, but my friend shot herself in the head with a shotgun. There was NOTHING left of her head. Her teeth and brains were on the ceiling.

Wow, weird how Kurt Cobain used that method yet his head was fine.

Heard that shooting in the heart is better. It will obviously stop the blood circulation and you'll lose consciousness. You can be brain dead and kept alive with a respirator, you cant live without a heart.

I don't know, according to lost all hope, you can still live through a shot through the heart. Plus I have breast implants, so idk if it'll shoot through that

 

[LonelyLight]

Wow, weird how Kurt Cobain used that method yet his head was fine.

I never knew he used a shotgun. All I know is she used a double barrel shotgun and that was the way her body was left as a result.. closed coffin and formally identified by her tattoos.

 

[I’vehadenough]

I never knew he used a shotgun. All I know is she used a double barrel shotgun and that was the way her body was left as a result.. closed coffin and formally identified by her tattoos.

Yeah that's rough on the family. I'm sure she didn't feel anything though. And good thing you can't take your face with you after death. I'm just looking for a the least painless and most lethal method

 

[LonelyLight]

Yeah that's rough on the family. I'm sure she didn't feel anything though. And good thing you can't take your face with you after death. I'm just looking for a the least painless and most lethal method

Oh she was gone straight away. Well, the most popular choice on the forum seems to be N, not sure what your thoughts are on that tho.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Oh she was gone straight away. Well, the most popular choice on the forum seems to be N, not sure what your thoughts are on that tho.

I tried buying N from A as stated in the PPH, but he scammed me. He got the money and didn't send me anything or reply to my email. And I heard it's near impossible to get in Mexico now. I was thinking of shooting up a gram of heroin, but that's not guaranteed either

 

[LonelyLight]

I tried buying N from A as stated in the PPH, but he scammed me. He got the money and didn't send me anything or reply to my email. And I heard it's near impossible to get in Mexico now. I was thinking of shooting up a gram of heroin, but that's not guaranteed either

Jeez that is horrible. I know it's never guaranteed to get N, as it could be intercepted etc, but it's a lot of money to lose all the same. I've noticed quite a few people thinking of H also. I guess every method has room for failure unfortunately!

 

[I’vehadenough]

Jeez that is horrible. I know it's never guaranteed to get N, as it could be intercepted etc, but it's a lot of money to lose all the same. I've noticed quite a few people thinking of H also. I guess every method has room for failure unfortunately!

Yeah, they all do unless you jump from a 40 story building. I wonder how these Wall Street guys get the guts to do that. Well I'm torn among H, hanging or shotgun

 

[LonelyLight]

Yeah, they all do unless you jump from a 40 story building. I wonder how these Wall Street guys get the guts to do that. Well I'm torn among H, hanging or shotgun

I'd never be brave enough to jump!! I hate heights as it is. Never mind trying to overcome that fear plus SI..
Personally I'm torn between hanging and SN.. I feel like a shotgun is a good option but I have no access to a gun unfortunately

 

[Ritter]

Heard that shooting in the heart is better. It will obviously stop the blood circulation and you'll lose consciousness. You can be brain dead and kept alive with a respirator, you cant live without a heart.

Heart is more complicated, you have to have proper aim (which means practice, look at an anatomically correct reference for the hearts location), and then ofc whichever firing method is tricky to keep that aim on spot. Please note that even after a shot to the heart you can still remain conscious for several seconds, and alive even longer until you've effectively bleed enough for reduced (and later) brain damage due to blood loss.

As far as the brain dead comment, your body can be kept alive if your brain is dead, but brain death by definition means irreversible brain death, your consciousnesses your memories, the "you" will be forever gone. Either weapon can cause instant death if you aim correctly to take out the brain stem, or if you're confident you want be found for awhile any massive damage to both hemispheres can cause the excessive bleeding and swelling that leads to death (don't worry you'll be unconscious for that).