Adam Maier-Clayton

[Walilamdzi]

If anyone hasn't read about him, he was an advocate for assisted death and had to take his own life due to psychogenic pain and his youtube channel is really interesting. He was Exit International's youngest member.

Adam Maier-Clayton

My name is Adam Maier-Clayton. Welcome to my living Hell. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/as-a-person-with-mental-illness-heres...

www.youtube.com

 

[Psilo]

I heard about his story, happy for him he found peace!

 

[AmbleNorth]

Yes, he left via nembutal in a hotel room.

 

[lululoo]

One thing that makes me sad about his story is that doctors labeled his pain psychogenic and he readily accepted that. But who knows if that was the case. Doctors just label any condition they don't understand as psychogenic. It might not matter in that there wasn't a cure for his pain anyway, but I feel like he shouldn't have had to think of his condition in this way.

 

[elizabeth.luck]

His parents were SO supportive. I wish my parents could understand.

 

[Help_Me]

Yea, I heard of him long time before finding this forum. I can't even imagine the pain he felt..

 

[ThinkingAboutThis]

One thing that makes me sad about his story is that doctors labeled his pain psychogenic and he readily accepted that. But who knows if that was the case. Doctors just label any condition they don't understand as psychogenic. It might not matter in that there wasn't a cure for his pain anyway, but I feel like he shouldn't have had to think of his condition in this way.

I agree. I watched some of his youtube videos, showing bottles of Gabapentin (Neurontin). He also said that he'd been on various benzodiazepines (he called them hypnotics and also antidepressants). My theory is that his discontinuation of benzodiazepines and antidepressants and the constant switches from one prescription to another had seriously injured his brain and body to the point of him a long time to recover, and he just couldn't bear the pain and the time it takes to get better from it all.

 

[Jenna]

I agree. I watched some of his youtube videos, showing bottles of Gabapentin (Neurontin). He also said that he'd been on various benzodiazepines (he called them hypnotics and also antidepressants). My theory is that his discontinuation of benzodiazepines and antidepressants and the constant switches from one prescription to another had seriously injured his brain and body to the point of him a long time to recover, and he just couldn't bear the pain and the time it takes to get better from it all.

You know I totally agree with you.

 

[DeepMind]

One thing that makes me sad about his story is that doctors labeled his pain psychogenic and he readily accepted that. But who knows if that was the case. Doctors just label any condition they don't understand as psychogenic. It might not matter in that there wasn't a cure for his pain anyway, but I feel like he shouldn't have had to think of his condition in this way.

I fully agree. In the end, pain is real and it is biochemical, irrespective of cause. They label it as psychogenic because this allows them to do nothing, since it is the patient who has to change. Finding the biochemical causes is much more difficult.

 

[lululoo]

I fully agree. In the end, pain is real and it is biochemical, irrespective of cause. They label it as psychogenic because this allows them to do nothing, since it is the patient who has to change. Finding the biochemical causes is much more difficult.

The shame that gets heaped on you if you have an unexplained medical condition really contributes to my wish to CBT. If I had something that was recognized and led to people supporting me, it would be so much better. But I have fibromyalgia, which means people don't really believe me or they think it's my fault or whatever.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Yeah, I think doctors can be very narrow minded.

 

[spanishguy22]

Good person. Someone I can relate to.

 

[dolphin2.0]

The shame that gets heaped on you if you have an unexplained medical condition really contributes to my wish to CBT. If I had something that was recognized and led to people supporting me, it would be so much better. But I have fibromyalgia, which means people don't really believe me or they think it's my fault or whatever.

Yes, this. I'm also told I'm exaggerating my condition.
I really feel like I can relate to this guy.

 

[saomao]

One thing that makes me sad about his story is that doctors labeled his pain psychogenic and he readily accepted that. But who knows if that was the case. Doctors just label any condition they don't understand as psychogenic. It might not matter in that there wasn't a cure for his pain anyway, but I feel like he shouldn't have had to think of his condition in this way.

10/10

 

[Santiago]

The shame that gets heaped on you if you have an unexplained medical condition really contributes to my wish to CBT. If I had something that was recognized and led to people supporting me, it would be so much better. But I have fibromyalgia, which means people don't really believe me or they think it's my fault or whatever.

I guess that is the downside of having such a vague condition. Vague as in having a broad description. It also means some people will take advantage of it. That only ruins it for people who really suffer from it like (I assume) yourself

Happens with a lot of other conditions aswell (one I have personal experience with is body dysmorphic disorder. That term gets misused all the time)

Personally I don't let what others believe affect me that much though. I know my own reality and couldn't care less about theirs

 

[FreedomInDeath]

I wanted to bump this thread because this man was a hero for medical assistance in dying (MAiD) due to mental illness movement. I want to be able to have the same advocacy in the US, but they are even more narrow minded here than in Canada and I do not want another commitment. When this movement gets momentum and more of us have a voice I hope he is always remembered.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Yes, he left via nembutal in a hotel room.

I wish I could do this...

 

[IrRegularjoe]

They are changing the assisted dying laws in Canada right now and excluded mental illness as an eligible reason. No one ever mentions him in Canadian politics. It is focused on two people who won a court case.

 

[Walilamdzi]

They are changing the assisted dying laws in Canada right now and excluded mental illness as an eligible reason. No one ever mentions him in Canadian politics. It is focused on two people who won a court case.

That's annoying. I wish I was in the Netherlands and could go the way of Aurelia Brouwer but it sounds difficult having to "try all of the methods" that they think may help you.

 

[venin]

His parents were SO supportive. I wish my parents could understand.

His mother looks fake to me
Also he nerver mentions her in his videos.