Account Deleted? (Goodbye thread)

[BrokenBliss]

Here I am again with a question about policy. Yesterday there was a striking set of comments from the sister of a girl who posted a goodbye thread on here as she CTB in real time (one month ago). The sister figured out how to access the girl's account (yesterday), logged in as her, and thus was able to "witness" her sister's last moments. She reamed us a new one with a scathing comment or two, then pleaded for information about the girl's time of death. She was understandably in distress.

Today I wanted to check if she'd been back, and it would appear the girl's entire account has been deleted. Now – I am refraining from saying why I believe this happened, which would be evident to anyone who read those posts, and I would ask that no one post that reason here. However, I would like to know if it is the policy of the site, at admin/mod discretion, to obliterate an account this way. There is now no evidence of this girl's presence, nor her experience here. I am expecting this entire thread to be deleted too at some point – hopefully not before the sincere question is answered – so comment while you can.

EDIT: I am adding this here, as it keeps coming up. CTB occurred over one month ago. Member had joined last September.

 

[Smart No More]

Totally missed this! Was it a long time member?

 

[Freedomindeath4me]

Didn't see it but probably a troll. Similar shit goes on about suicide in other depressive forums.

 

[The Final Solution]

Quite honestly, I saw the thread earlier and was shocked to see her account wasn't locked before (or while) the shitstorm was unleashed. Deleting the entire account could be an action on her sister's part (highly probable) or the mods going for the nuclear option trying to cover up an oversight (which I doubt).

 

[BrokenBliss]

Didn't see it but probably a troll. Similar shit goes on about suicide in other depressive forums.

That doesn't explain why a legitimate member of the community, which she was, got deleted. Just remove the new posts if they are a problem.

 

[Freedomindeath4me]

That doesn't explain why a legitimate member of the community, which she was, got deleted. Just remove the new posts if they are a problem.

No, I mean literally the whole thing was a troll. Her "sister" didn't take over the account. Even if it was a poster with a high post count. Not going to get into forums I've seen similar in but it does happen.

 

[Angi]

I see how you would not want to repeat the problem with the earlier thread. But could you mention the name of the legitimate member of the community who died? I completely missed this, and worry who left.

 

[Smart No More]

Yeah, I'd like to know who it was too.

 

[BrokenBliss]

No, I mean literally the whole thing was a troll. Her "sister" didn't take over the account. Even if it was a poster with a high post count. Not going to get into forums I've seen similar in but it does happen.

It's possible, but the original member did seem legit. I was jarred by the exchange (which I did participate in a bit) and went back and read all of OP's posts (four pages worth). I also remember reading her comments while she was here, including the goodbye thread at the time it was happening.

Was the sister a troll? I don't know, because she was logged into the account.

 

[DrownFeather]

I also saw her screaming and insulting but then strangely been calm and understanding hmm suspicious behaviour

 

[Al Cappella]

I read it too, and it was a bit unsettling. No way of knowing it was legit or not. As to why the thread is gone, no idea…I mean I could guess, but usually I'm wrong when I do that…

 

[BrokenBliss]

I also saw her screaming and insulting but then strangely been calm and understanding hmm suspicious behaviour

I noticed that as well, but it could make sense because of what she was asking for, and she wasn't gonna get it while cursing at us. It also doesn't explain why the account was deleted.

Totally missed this! Was it a long time member?

She joined last Sept.

 

[DrownFeather]

I noticed that as well, but it could make sense because of what she was asking for, and she wasn't gonna get it while cursing at us. It also doesn't explain why the account was deleted.

True she said "you all fucks go kill yourselves" i will not expect someone after that to be calm but might just wanted get info even if she was raging, well when something shocking/mess like this event usually mods will want to clear the surface or it just might because she insulted and threatened with death

 

[BrokenBliss]

True she said "you all fucks go kill yourselves" i will not expect someone after that to be calm but might just wanted get info even if she was raging, well when something shocking/mess like this event usually mods will want to clear the surface or it just might because she insulted and threatened with death

Yes, it was something to that effect. But again, why not just delete the new comments, then lock the acct? I can imagine some reasons why this might have been done, but I'm trying to get the facts about policy without speculating.

 

[_Seeking]

There were a number of things I saw that didn't add up. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed like a troll. Some members are able to be very convincing but that does not necessarily mean that they are genuine. We know that Fixthe26 come here to troll, and that seemed like the perfect setup to make this place look bad. Post count was low, it seemed pretty low effort to get a big reaction.

The sister is so angry she wants us all to kill ourselves, but she doesn't bother going to the news about this? The news would have to check to see if someone matching the description did actually commit suicide.

 

[BrokenBliss]

There were a number of things I saw that didn't add up. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed like a troll. Some members are able to be very convincing but that does not necessarily mean that they are genuine. We know that Fixthe26 come here to troll, and that seemed like the perfect setup to make this place look bad. Post count was low, it seemed pretty low effort to get a big reaction.

The sister is so angry she wants us all to kill ourselves, but she doesn't bother going to the news about this? The news would have to check to see if someone matching the description did actually commit suicide.

I agree. I am more inclined to believe the sister was a troll than the member. I do repeat also, she was logged in to the member's acct.

Not everybody wants to invite the press into their life after devastation. I sure wouldn't. She did say that the police had her sister's laptop and phone. Sounds like a threat. But this site is not illegal.

The member joined last September. The goodbye thread took place a little over a month ago.

 

[Hercules]

I must have missed this thread, but even so it seems very suspicious to me. Are you sure this was a legitimate member? The whole thing doesn't make any sense. There are too many things that don't add up and are too much of a coincidence.

Even if this woman's sister knew that she was suicidal and found out she was a member here, what are the chances that she would log on here at the exact moment that her sister was going to ctb? Its Understandable that the sister would be upset, and would want to stop her. Why would she waste her time arguing with members on here? A normal person would have tried to locate their sister, and would have called the police to try to find her and save her. Why didn't she do this? It seems likely that It was a troll account. Probably one of the fixers opened the account and the whole thing was a set up, so that they could take a screen shot saying that she found out at the last minute that her sister was going to ctb, logged on here and pleaded with the members on here to tell her about the sister, and then say we refused to do so, because we are all a bunch of evil murderers in an attempt to shut down the site.

On the page that lists the rules, it says that members are not allowed to edit or delete their own posts after 6 hours. If they want to edit or delete anything after 6 hours, they have to ask one of the mods to do it for them. It also says that a member can't request to have their whole account deleted. So I think that one of the mods has decided at their discretion to delete the account. I think - but am not sure, that they deleted Shawn Shatto account after her ctb, because it got too much media attention.

 

[BrokenBliss]

I must have missed this thread, but even so it seems very suspicious to me. Are you sure this was a legitimate member? The whole thing doesn't make any sense. There are too many things that don't add up and are too much of a coincidence.

Even if this woman's sister knew that she was suicidal and found out she was a member here, what are the chances that she would log on here at the exact moment that her sister was going to ctb? Its Understandable that the sister would be upset, and would want to stop her. Why would she waste her time arguing with members on here? A normal person would have tried to locate their sister, and would have called the police to try to find her and save her. Why didn't she do this? It seems likely that It was a troll account. Probably one of the fixers opened the account and the whole thing was a set up, so that they could take a screen shot saying that she found out at the last minute that her sister was going to ctb, logged on here and pleaded with the members on here to tell her about the sister, and then say we refused to do so, because we are all a bunch of evil murderers in an attempt to shut down the site.

On the page that lists the rules, it says that members are not allowed to edit or delete their own posts after 6 hours. If they want to edit or delete anything after 6 hours, they have to ask one of the mods to do it for them. It also says that a member can't request to have their whole account deleted. So I think that one of the mods has decided at their discretion to delete the account. I think - but am not sure, that they deleted Shawn Shatto account after her ctb, because it got too much media attention.

NoNoNoNoNo. The member ctb over a month ago. The "sister" actually explained herself quite reasonably as to how she got here just now. Plus anyone can see goodbye threads and we have a LOT of them on here. The NYT, The Sun, The BBC, etc. have all posted this info in their coverage. I just watched a schmaltzy youtube video last night that quoted our forum rules word for word.

 

[Riddle]

I agree. I am more inclined to believe the sister was a troll than the member. I do repeat also, she was logged in to the member's acct.

Not everybody wants to invite the press into their life after devastation. I sure wouldn't. She did say that the police had her sister's laptop and phone. Sounds like a threat. But this site is not illegal.

The member joined last summer (I think July). The goodbye thread took place a little over a month ago.

Yea I was in the thread and read the whole thing and I do not think it was a troll. I did not get that impression from the beginning and now that Bliss has confirmed she had a post history then I very much doubt it wasn't her sister.

 

[Red Scare]

Some people might have the "stay logged in" set activated, and then not take the time to clear their cache and history. So it's conceivable she was able to still log on, but I still think this sounds more like a troll attempt.

 

[BrokenBliss]

Some people might have the "stay logged in" set activated, and then not take the time to clear their cache and history. So it's conceivable she was able to still log on, but I still think this sounds more like a troll attempt.

True, but she didn't. She told us she was logging off to protect the site. And again, it's over a month later.

 

[BrokenBliss]

The account is deactivated, and the good-bye thread is now gone, but the rest of the posts appear to still be there.

Please don't name her quite yet.

 

[BrokenBliss]

Yea I was in the thread and read the whole thing and I do not think it was a troll. I did not get that impression from the beginning and now that Bliss has confirmed she had a post history then I very much doubt it wasn't her sister.

Yes, I've been discussing it with someone else who was there, and I believe they were both whom they claimed to be.

 

[throwaway_2620]

I disabled that user's account because that user CTB after posting that goodbye thread and her sibling somehow managed to get into her account. As for why that goodbye thread was deleted, I initially locked that thread, but after some consideration, I decided to delete it because I was worried that it could potentially be used against this forum.

I'm locking this thread now.