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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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After a very long break here is another politics thread of mine. The study was talked a lot about in Germany but that probably applies to many countries.
However, one should not rely to much on a single studiy instead meta-studies are more reliable.

Considering Andrew Tate the results are not a suprise.

The most obvious explanation is: men are scared to lose their privileges through emancipation/minority right movements. Personally, I think it is good minorites get more rights because I am mentally ill and thus disabled (in my case). I think it is good to live in an inclusive world where women get more rights. I hope through their own struggle they might be more empathetic towards discriminated people.

At the same time there are a lot of stories that contradict this narrative. For example, femcels or feminists that agitate against trans people. Moreover, I think in college some people assumed that because I a young white man I would have never been discriminated against. I read such assumptions also applies to many Jews.
The prejudices might only change the direction. The truth might be an answer in between. I would have been interested in @DarkRange55 's opinion on this study.

The way more important question: Is being a leftwinger considering this development positive for my dating prospects? There is a very famous German right-wing politician that is currently involved in a spying scandal. He posts many TikTok videos and he gives advices to young men how to find a gf. Real men should not be brainwashed. Men never should be nice, soft, weak or leftwing. He also suggests not to watch porn and to be self-confident and then you will get a girlfriend. Personally, I won't adapt to these suggestions. The self-confidence is the best suggestion. I am ambivalent on the porn thing. I am sceptical to receive dating tips from a guy who can only endure the bullshit he spreads when he is drunk all the time. I have met a lot of sexually traumatized women and I have the feeling people like Andrew Tate (or him) are responsible for that.
 
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DarkRange55

DarkRange55

Enlightened
Oct 15, 2023
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After a very long break here is another politics thread of mine. The study was talked a lot about in Germany but that probably applies to many countries.
However, one should not rely to much on a single studiy instead meta-studies are more reliable.

Considering Andrew Tate the results are not a suprise.

The most obvious explanation is: men are scared to lose their privileges through emancipation/minority right movements. Personally, I think it is good minorites get more rights because I am mentally ill and thus disabled (in my case). I think it is good to live in an inclusive world where women get more rights. I hope through their own struggle they might be more empathetic towards discriminated people.

At the same time there are a lot of stories that contradict this narrative. For example, femcels or feminists that agitate against trans people. Moreover, I think in college some people assumed that because I a young white man I would have never been discriminated against. I read such assumptions also applies to many Jews.
The prejudices might only change the direction. The truth might be an answer in between. I would have been interested in @DarkRange55

The way more important question: Is being a leftwinger considering this development positive for my dating prospects? There is a very famous German right-wing politician that is currently involved in a spying scandal. He posts many TikTok videos and he gives advices to young men how to find a gf. Real men should not be brainwashed. Men never should be nice, soft, weak or leftwing. He also suggests not to watch porn and to be self-confident and then you will get a girlfriend. Personally, I won't adapt to these suggestions. The self-confidence is the best suggestion. I am ambivalent on the porn thing. I am sceptical to receive dating tips from a guy who can only endure the bullshit he spreads when he is drunk all the time. I have met a lot of sexually traumatized women and I have the feeling people like Andrew Tate (or him) are responsible for that.
Interested in me?
 
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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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Interested in me?
My mistake. I wanted to say I would be interested in your take on this study. The simple and easy explanations might not be the most insightful. Good to see you back in this forum due to your quality content. However, for your own sake it would have been probably if you never had to return to it.
 
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SexyIncél

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Aug 16, 2022
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The way more important question: Is being a leftwinger considering this development positive for my dating prospects?
You can be leftist. But best to heed the dictum: "Show, don't tell"

Example: today I met a Sea Shepherd. A biologist who got on a boat & fought whalers to defend marine wildlife

This is a leftist of action, who proved his skills — one fundamental of male attractiveness. Because Getting Things Done requires far more depth than having mere opinions. Sexy af, I imagine. Even to rightwingers

("Left" means too many things to too many people. So to be specific, I could discern his anarchist/socialist influence; but like many anarchists, he didn't volunteer it until I probed)

Rightwingers overstate the case that you should be a rightwinger. Sure it's true, they have better relationship-advice infrastructure, a culture of some stoicism, etc. But it's like reading the Wall St Journal or Financial Times; you don't have to like its underlying assumptions to benefit from it

A study says women become increasingly more left-wing, men increasingly more right-wing. Which could be the reasons for this polarization?
Organizers who work within social movements, as usual. What we think of as "culture" (and political common-sense) could be seen as a bunch of social movements that were more or less successful

To gain mass appeal (because elites are few), rightwingers target rifts/weaknesses in leftist movements
 
Pessimist

Pessimist

Specialist
May 5, 2021
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I wouldn't classify Andrew Tate as "right-wing". Nowadays he's just an Islamist influencer.





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Pluto

Pluto

Meowing to go out
Dec 27, 2020
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I think this is a very interesting question. I'd like to give my perspective but it would end up another mega-post.

But in short, relations between the genders, and in turn people's internal male/female dynamics, have become acutely dysfunctional. If I were a conspiracist, I'd say that this disharmony benefits our corporate/political overlords.
 
1MiserableGuy

1MiserableGuy

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Dec 30, 2023
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A systematic attempt to divide

1. The family unit. Children without fathers ultimately wind up with the government as their father
2. The population as a whole against itself. If we're all fighting each other, we can't unite against people responsible
 

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