Venting A man in the 2020s may as well rope?

[OceanBlue]

The "Patriarchy" is a bullshit idea, and if you weren't so bitter and looking for someone to blame for your misfortune you might be willing to DYR and see that there is nothing holding any woman back but herself. Stop blaming other people for your choices.

Troll, but still..
(that's probably an old way of saying 'gender')

 

[stermc]

1st and maybe 2nd wave feminism were looking for equality, which i'm on board with. 3rd and now God help us 4th wave feminism are about nothing more than Hating men, period. 4th wave feminists are the most insane, narcissistic, and egocentric people walking this earth. Your ideolgy is divisive, hateful, and based on nothing but propaganda you all keep regurgitating between yourselves to keep the hateful "movement" going.

We can't say anything you guys disagree with that we are automatically the 4th wave, right?

 

[KlMeNw]

Why are you so nervous? You sound bitter, hun, not me.

Ps.: you should read more about it. There are people out there who actually study this kind of thing and could help you understand life better (and you should also be kind to people).

Ok, thanks FeministBot model 2023, i'll keep that in mind...

 

[stermc]

Ok, thanks FeministBot model 2023, i'll keep that in mind...

 

[KlMeNw]

Sure thing, hope it helps babe ; )

 

[SexyIncél]

Could you pls elab this? How is the patriarchy the reason for men's issues (in particular Inceldome)?

Consider the guy who coined "feminism". You can even look him up on the incels wiki: "Charles Fourier was the founder of utopian socialism, a feminist who coined the word feminism, "satirical" r*pe apologist, and someone who sincerely wanted to organize society into mass communal buildings ("Phalansteries", or "Phalanx"s) which would provide a "sexual minimum" for everyone, including incels."

A quick googling doesn't turn up much on this in feminist circles, though there must be some. Some other -isms do (one, two)

but the feminism movement helps men too, no? or did you mean something else

Depends on what we mean by "feminism". Many feminist sub-movements don't even care about most women, much less men

For example, liberal feminists care about the glass ceiling -- not the scary basement. Hillary's happy to bomb brown women; keep others poor. They usually refuse to mention Rojava, the eco-feminist and radical democratic revolution in Syria. They prefer docile mideast women in hijabs, not badass armed women shooting the balls off ISIS child sex slavers. No, they're more obsessed with how videogames represent women

So no way they give a damn about most men. Explains why many women reject such so-called "feminism"

We see it on SaSu: labeling someone an incel gives everyone the green light to laugh a suicidal man off the forum. Horrified, I delved into incel and manosphere lit, to understand the roots of this cruelty

Why should women talk about males issues? Feminism is for women's rights and empowerment. But we surely recognize what sexism has done to men. However, we are not the ones who should be trying to change that.

Then western feminists fail to organize half the population. And suffer male backlashes. Just because western feminists are too lazy, stubborn or unimaginative to offer a compelling masculinity

Self-defeating. People wanna know what the world looks like if we smash patriarchy

Most don't even know what patriachy is: the authority of patriarchs -- male heads of household -- used as a model/basis for male power in other parts of social life

But ever fewer men can even build households. So they have less sympathy for some incompetent elite boob running an entire country like it's his mansions. Should be simple to recruit men to help find a better way

 

[Noi]

Then western feminists fail to organize half the population. And suffer male backlashes. Just because western feminists are too lazy, stubborn or unimaginative to offer a compelling masculinity

Self-defeating. People wanna know what the world looks like if we smash patriarchy

Most don't even know what patriachy is: the authority of patriarchs -- male heads of household -- used as a model/basis for male power in other parts of social life

But ever fewer men can even build households. So they have less sympathy for some incompetent elite boob running an entire country like it's his mansions. Should be simple to recruit men to help find a better way

Western feminists fail to organize most of the populations because their issues aren't relevant to the average working individual. It's the exact same with environmentalists and the like. I don't really care about rape allegations, police issues concerning them or sexual assaults. Neither do I care about the glass ceiling. I just want food on my table for the next week. But the reverse is also true, since a lot of feminists who've disregarded my opinions and the points I've made either didn't prioritize my problems or advocated for "girl boss feminism."

A lot of western folk in general seem to downplay the effects systematic issues have on people. Especially those who subscribe to a more conservative outlook on life. The fact to just understand all the variables that play a large role in a lot of modern issues you need a lot of information, and the ability to draw the correct conclusions on it just exacerbates the issue. A lot of people either don't have the time to invest into researching the issue or are too stupid to draw any kind of conclusion from their research.

 

[Linda]

The WOKE culture is fine; hell, it is BEAUTIFUL FFS, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT that men are left behind.

And they rope at 75% compared to women. No matter what time or place one looks at.

When will the media/modern society at least discuss this???

What would you like to be different?

 

[Georg]

Like these mentioned here:

what? This was my Question:

Could you pls elab this? How is the patriarchy the reason for men's issues (in particular Inceldome)?

Who sends men to military service?

I can tell you who: The top 0,001% of men do. And they all have wife and kids at home. lol

reminds me of this tbh:

 

[Fish Face]

Am not an incel and have not had problems with women but you can't disagree life as a man has always been hard, at least in other parts of life. Men are expected to be these emotionless "people" that only think and don't feel. Yet studies show that men feel as much as women but just don't show it. If I were to burst out crying I would be called a pussy and lose all respect of those around me or if I were getting beat to death on the streets nobody would bother helping me. This is what am trying to say, it ain't easy and men suiciding is understandable.

I personally would not call you a pussy for crying and I do not think anyone I know would. And I definitely do not think anyone wouldn't help you if you were being beat to death on the street. I do understand the pressures of being a man but I feel that your thinking has become skewed out of reality. It is 2023 and people do not care about this male role stuff anymore, especially women, who actually really didn't care about it as much as men seem to think they do, and I am speaking as a woman. The macho man ideal is for men. Most women find it stupid and ridiculous and actually want someone with other qualities instead. If you don't believe me please look it up. I think you need to figure out how you got these ideas and challenge them and most of all be proud of who you are.

 

[KlMeNw]

I personally would not call you a pussy for crying and I do not think anyone I know would. And I definitely do not think anyone wouldn't help you if you were being beat to death on the street. I do understand the pressures of being a man but I feel that your thinking has become skewed out of reality. It is 2023 and people do not care about this male role stuff anymore, especially women, who actually really didn't care about it as much as men seem to think they do, and I am speaking as a woman. The macho man ideal is for men. Most women find it stupid and ridiculous and actually want someone with other qualities instead. If you don't believe me please look it up. I think you need to figure out how you got these ideas and challenge them and most of all be proud of who you are.

Sorry you are either misguided or misinformed, there have now been multiple studies and surveys done that continually show that 80% of women are dating just 20% of the men. Would you like to know what these 20% have in common? They all have alpha characteristics, strong, manly, misogynistic (some would say), and good looking, the Chad type you just said woman aren't looking for anymore. You are dead wrong.