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21Neberg

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Dec 17, 2018
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Thank you for these tips. I'm sure they're helping many people. As for me personally, I'll be sure to properly test my belt's strength before I attempt.
 
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TiredHorse

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If it's a Wiki page, it should be updateable --I missed several important ones in the OP that were addressed in later posts.
 
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Nov 8, 2018
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As with most Wiki pages, you can edit and continually update the content.
 
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TiredHorse

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How is the SuiWiki project progressing? Threads and I chatted a tiny bit about it, but my sense was that since the Mods were so overloaded with basic forum maintenance it wasn't going to happen any time soon.
 
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lifeisbutadream

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Oct 4, 2018
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Yes. Keeping in mind that 200 mg a day is


It's the opposite.

"Stone mentions that a bullet that that damages the spinal column where it meets the base of the skull (base of the head at the back) tends to be quickly fatal, and this is most likely achieved by aiming slightly down through the mouth, or else simply pointing the gun at the rear base of the head."

http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/firearms


Great posts, Gingerplum, but i think the way to hit the base of the skull with a gun in the mouth, which is the best way - is to point slightly upwards.

A shotgun is by far the best, and also usually much easier to obtain than a handgun. A 12 guage shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot is almost the equivalent of nine .38's (the standard US police round for many years) going off all at once! It's hard to see how one could survive that. Have you ever heard of anyone who did? I've heard that if you fill your mouth with water first and then close your mouth around the shotgun barrel your head will explode, but i don't know if that's true.
 
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JustAboutDone

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Just bumping this
 
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Dec 9, 2018
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Hey i have a question : is it possible to kill yourself with Doxylamine ? It's a first generation antihistamine drug and i want to know whether it can or can't kill a person and if it can kill how many grams or mg of it will i need? Thanks in advance ,Simba
 
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JustAboutDone

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According to Wikipedia - a very unreliable resource imo! It gives a LD of 500mg/kg so that would mean A LOT of pills. But the worse bit is the effects seem to be really grim and not at all a nice way to go :-(
 
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According to Wikipedia - a very unreliable resource imo! It gives a LD of 500mg/kg so that would mean A LOT of pills. But the worse bit is the effects seem to be really grim and not at all a nice way to go :-(
I just read it on Wikipedia and i don't understand where it's grim .. but the LD doesn't seem to high ,I've offed on paracetamol which was 30 pills an it was 20,000 or 15,000 so it sounds alot less i don't know..
 
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JustAboutDone

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I just read it on Wikipedia and i don't understand where it's grim .. but the LD doesn't seem to high ,I've offed on paracetamol which was 30 pills an it was 20,000 or 15,000 so it sounds alot less i don't know..

This put me off:

Rhabdomyolysis is a condition in which damaged skeletal muscle breaks down rapidly.[3] Symptoms may include muscle pains, weakness, vomiting, and confusion.[3][4]There may be tea-colored urine or an irregular heartbeat.[3]Some of the muscle breakdown products, such as the protein myoglobin, are harmful to the kidneys and may lead to kidney failure.[3]

As well as the risk of hallucinations and grand mal seizures.

If you've ever had a seizure you'll know how awful they can be :-(
 
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ShadowOfTheDay

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Feb 14, 2019
331
I would like to add one note of warning to anyone contemplating suicide for the first time: If you have people in your life who care deeply for you, a failed suicide attempt will leave them forever anxious that you will attempt again. Almost daily, I recieive text messages or phone calls from concerned family members who "worry about" me. The thought of ending their anxiety, and providing them at least with a sense of "closure" is yet another reason for me to finally kms. My family does not deserve to have to be worried about me. And so, I would recommend that you don't try to ctb unless, and until you are prepared to choose a full-proof method.
 
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bubbletea

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Feb 18, 2019
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What about jumping? Any precautions?
 
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Letmego. Please

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Nov 18, 2018
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I couldn't resist the answer that popped into my brain, my bad.....
 
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Roberto

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Jan 19, 2019
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Don't try to overdose with diazepam (I didn't take cimetidine to enhance the effect, but some beers). Tryed with 500mg and it didn't work (I was 70kg). There is another place that talked about 1700mg of diazepam. Could be that it wasn't enough. My recommendation is to choose another method.

Don't try to suicide if you are lesser than 18 and have depression / anxiety until you try to go to several psychologists & psychiatrics & tried several antidepressants.

Don't try to suicide if you started to take antidepressants : it is a common second effect that tends to dissapear. Talk to psychiatrist and explain your thoughts. May be could need a change in medication.

If you can't stand your parents because it hits you, takes alcohol, drugs, abuses, etc. talk to a police. And try to reach a social agent to help you.

If you are being bullied in the school/university try to talk to your parents or the director or any teacher. If continues, try to convince your parents to change the center/School. And it could be helpful to see a psychologist if you feel that you don't feel well emotionally (Also if you can, rely in your parents).

If you feel bad with yourself may be you are depressed. You can use the Beck's test to find out. There are online tests. For example (02/2019):
treat-depression.com/depression-test
About Beck's test:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Depression_Inventory
 
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Letmego. Please

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Don't try to overdose with diazepam (I didn't take cimetidine to enhance the effect, but some beers). Tryed with 500mg and it didn't work (I was 70kg). There is another place that talked about 1700mg of diazepam. Could be that it wasn't enough.

With Diazepam alone you will fall asleep before you could swallow anything near a lethal dose, & by its self im not sure there even is a lethal dose thats practical
 
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JustAboutDone

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Jan 1, 2019
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With Diazepam alone you will fall asleep before you could swallow anything near a lethal dose, & by its self im not sure there even is a lethal dose thats practical

That'd be me - crashed out on two diazepam and waking up clutching a pawful of 540 still to go...
 
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Roberto

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Jan 19, 2019
684
With Diazepam alone you will fall asleep before you could swallow anything near a lethal dose, & by its self im not sure there even is a lethal dose thats practical
I'm not sure also. I should discourage to suicide with diazepam because it doesn't work. I would have died, but from starvation being unconscious several days (they found me). The 1700mg I saw it here in one document. I don't think is reliable. May be with cimetidine & alcohol. Cimetidine increases the concentration in blood, also alcohol makes the medication more effect. But I insist in that it is not reliable and better use another method.

SN seems cheaper and reliable and it is available without prescription.
 
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Simba

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Dec 9, 2018
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This put me off:

Rhabdomyolysis is a condition in which damaged skeletal muscle breaks down rapidly.[3] Symptoms may include muscle pains, weakness, vomiting, and confusion.[3][4]There may be tea-colored urine or an irregular heartbeat.[3]Some of the muscle breakdown products, such as the protein myoglobin, are harmful to the kidneys and may lead to kidney failure.[3]

As well as the risk of hallucinations and grand mal seizures.

If you've ever had a seizure you'll know how awful they can be :-(
Well i read that that is one of the rare side effects so it may not even happen ? :/
 
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J F

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Aug 17, 2018
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Thank you for this. This is very useful. In the spirit of asking questions. I have researched the Propranolol and verapamil combo method exhaustively. I won't bore you will all the research I have done. Also know of two people who have ctb with this method. Not directly of course. A friend who knew them. Not sure how valid this is. Could be confirmation bias.

Thoughts on 19.2g of Propranolol, 14.4g of verapamil, 45mg of benzos and 140 mg of meto as the anti-emetic. Goal is to have blood pressure fall so low as to be fatal with some meto do not vomit it up and some benzos to help me relax.
 
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TiredHorse

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In the spirit of asking questions. I have researched the Propranolol and verapamil combo method exhaustively. I won't bore you will all the research I have done. Also know of two people who have ctb with this method. Not directly of course. A friend who knew them. Not sure how valid this is. Could be confirmation bias.

Thoughts on 19.2g of Propranolol, 14.4g of verapamil, 45mg of benzos and 140 mg of meto as the anti-emetic. Goal is to have blood pressure fall so low as to be fatal with some meto do not vomit it up and some benzos to help me relax.
That sounds like a question for its own thread. And to reply for myself: I haven't a clue how effective any of that would be. If they are OTC, I suspect it would be difficult to CTB with them --and at the very least you would need to play Mad Scientist to find some concoction of OTCs that would be effective, and even then it would be hit-or-miss.
 
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Doondar

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Apr 4, 2019
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My only other advice is research the methods. Decide for yourself what's best. Once you figure out your method, make sure you get it right. Don't be afraid to ask questions. People on here tend to promote their method - but do your own research and think for yourself. Remember people have biases when talking about the best method. Finally, no method is perfect. You'll just have to decide what has the least amount of drawbacks for you personally.
I agree. Has to make sense for your particular situation. Don't let anyone try to push their method down your throat. Unless it makes for you.
Thank you for this. This is very useful. In the spirit of asking questions. I have researched the Propranolol and verapamil combo method exhaustively. I won't bore you will all the research I have done. Also know of two people who have ctb with this method. Not directly of course. A friend who knew them. Not sure how valid this is. Could be confirmation bias.

Thoughts on 19.2g of Propranolol, 14.4g of verapamil, 45mg of benzos and 140 mg of meto as the anti-emetic. Goal is to have blood pressure fall so low as to be fatal with some meto do not vomit it up and some benzos to help me relax.
That is enough Propranolol to kill a horse. That much verapamil seriously? It's overkill my friend unless you weigh over 300 pounds. I am not joking. If you weigh no more than 250 pounds you can take half of each and still have plenty to do the job. Take all the meto and benzos though.
 
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Reallyreallyreally

Experienced
Jan 13, 2020
205
I have no comment on any other method except nitrogen with an exit bag.

Seems a lot of people think it should be airtight and I can't reiterate enough that it needs to be loose (best explained so you can get two fingers inserted at the base of your neck).
Yes. If it's airtight any remaining carbon dioxide you expel has no way to be flushed out of the bag, potentially leaving you to experience the unpleasant effects of suffocation and end up tearing off the bag once you lose consciousness.
 
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LastRide

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Jan 23, 2020
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I'm not sure also. I should discourage to suicide with diazepam because it doesn't work. I would have died, but from starvation being unconscious several days (they found me). The 1700mg I saw it here in one document. I don't think is reliable. May be with cimetidine & alcohol. Cimetidine increases the concentration in blood, also alcohol makes the medication more effect. But I insist in that it is not reliable and better use another method.

SN seems cheaper and reliable and it is available without prescription.
I have no idea of how how much Diazepam it would take to kill you but I tried 60 tabs of 10mg plus one bottle of vodaka and I slept for 14 hours and woke up with a hangover from the vodka....
 
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Dear Flabby

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My only other advice is research the methods. Decide for yourself what's best. Once you figure out your method, make sure you get it right. Don't be afraid to ask questions. People on here tend to promote their method - but do your own research and think for yourself. Remember people have biases when talking about the best method. Finally, no method is perfect. You'll just have to decide what has the least amount of drawbacks for you personally.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/resource-compilation.3/
 
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deadalredy

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How can i test my partial hanging method? Any ideas?
 

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