MrBigSad

MrBigSad

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Sep 30, 2020
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Does anyone here believe in God? After my second attempt I believe our conciosness is infinite. Does anyone else feel the same?
To put it more specifically I'm now a sollopsist. I believe everyone is the same mind experiencing itself
 
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W’ren

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Oct 28, 2020
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I believe there is more out there.

I don't know if i believe in a "one God".. i think i'm more of a pagan "many gods/goddesses" person. I see the divine in everything around me- in nature- in the moon- in other people... not in me.

I was present when my grandfather died. He looked towards the window and lucidly asked "are you here for me?"

There was no one there that we could see. Those were his final words- he passed away. I truly believe a spirit or spirits came to lead him forward-

I don't know what comes next, if we become a mass of combined energy where we all come to Know each other because we all meld into the universe and become one- or if we are reincarnated on this earth (please no!) or if we move on to some other existence- but i do think that my theory is that of many divine minds not just one...

Though i really feel like no God cares about me...
 
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MrBigSad

MrBigSad

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Sep 30, 2020
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I was never religious till my second attempt but now I believe God lives in every one of us. Please be kind to yourself. I'm here if you would like to discuss anything
 
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MichaelNomad123

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Oct 15, 2020
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I've been described as agnostic before. I think there is likely more but it is largely unknowable or just not relevant to us at our current stage of development.
 
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MrBigSad

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Sep 30, 2020
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I've been atheist my whole life. Yet after taking a hallucinogenic honey that contains greyanotoxin I find myself believing in the Divine. I'm convinced I committed suicide in an alternate reality
 
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Viro_Major

Viro_Major

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Jul 30, 2020
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Nowadays, I consider myself the closest to a pantheist. Before, likely a nihilist.
It took time to manifest itself, but I've felt from recent experiences that I must be part of a broader experiment of some sort, and what stood out is that I'm positively interlinked with the people and events that surround me. There is a kind of premeditation, about testing and growth happening, although I would not dare to comment exactlywhat are the motivations pulling the strings. I do feel like a cell of a broader organism.
 
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waived

waived

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Jan 5, 2019
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I do not believe in god because I believe in anthropology and historical records that show us when, why, and how certain beliefs became dominant or fell out of favor and everything divine is of human origin. Hallucinogenic honey with greyanotoxin will probably make you think a lot of things because it's hallucinogenic.
 
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timf

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I was raised Lutheran and in High School I disconnected myself from it as I found it not as useful as I would have liked. During the early 70s I experimented with many drugs and also encountered feelings of a universality that were appealing. However, those feelings tended to dissipate. When I was in my 30s, I started reading the bible with a highlighter so that I could revisit things that did not make sense.

It took a long time but I think I have found a solid foundation for faith. This was helped by some church experiences, but mostly hindered. Many denominational flavors tend to present Christianity as a finished product that one has to take or reject. There is often not room for making mistakes, getting things wrong, or growing in understanding. It is almost as if the presenters of Christianity tell you, "Smart people have already figured everything out and you just have to accept what they have done". This approach just seems to kill growth and understanding.

I would congratulate you on your newly acquired sensitivity to spiritual things. I would also encourage you to continue in your exploration. It can be helpful not to park at one point, but to continually question assumptions, seek new explanations, and allow yourself to dig into that which will help you grow in what you have discovered.

You might want to give particular emphasis to developing a sensitivity to truth. Development in this area can be valuable as it helps to avoid wasting time in the many paths of deception that can suck years out of the unwary. If an idea of God is beginning to form in your mind, you may want to consider reaching out to that and ask (pray) for help in finding and growing in truth.
 
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whywere

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Jun 26, 2020
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I do NOT believe in organized religion. Organized religion is all about money and being judgemental. One of my neighbors is super religious and when I mentioned that our state oked same sex marriage, he went off on that it is evil and that gays and everyone else like that was evil. Not me we are ALL the same. NOW is the a greater force than we know, YES,I could care less what "flavor" of religion, one has, if they have one, as long as they believe in: we are ALL the same, no matter, color of skin, language, religion, ANYTHING. Look at SS, we are a global family that loves,cares, has lots of empathy, kindness, and UNDERSTANDING towards one another, and I LOVE IT and I LOVE ALL OF MY GLOBAL FAMILY HERE with all my heart. Walter
 
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TotallyIsolated

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Nov 25, 2019
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I'm not religious. I went to a Church of England school but my parents weren't church goers and never forced me to go. I went to Sunday school once and hated it!

My belief is that what some people call God, others call the higher self. There's a strong intersection between psychology and faith - we just give things different names.

If your faith brings you strength or happiness then it can only be a good thing. The church is a different matter though.
 
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MrBigSad

MrBigSad

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Sep 30, 2020
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Thankyou for everyone's responses. All very informative :) I wish you all the best
 
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Xocoyotziin

Xocoyotziin

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Sep 5, 2020
402
I wish I could articulate my beliefs well, or that they were all that well defined.
I think it's something very multilayered, enough so that when looked at from any particular angle any given belief system could appear to be or actually be correct, but at the center of it there's a single consciousness having parallel and sometimes intersecting experiences, that's in actuality caught in stasis when looked upon only as itself with no other reference point to use to define its "progress". Is there some"thing" outside of that? Idk.

Nowadays, I consider myself the closest to a pantheist. Before, likely a nihilist.
It took time to manifest itself, but I've felt from recent experiences that I must be part of a broader experiment of some sort, and what stood out is that I'm positively interlinked with the people and events that surround me. There is a kind of premeditation, about testing and growth happening, although I would not dare to comment exactlywhat are the motivations pulling the strings. I do feel like a cell of a broader organism.

 
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StuFin

StuFin

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Oct 21, 2020
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Perhaps what we find at the end is what we expect to find, at least for a moment.

I expect to find nothing and nothingness in a zero dimension, un-experienceable paradigm.

So I hope that's what I find. If there's stuff and more shit to deal with I'll be seriously pissed off.
 
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Sherri

Sherri

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Sep 28, 2020
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Atheist here.
 
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sufferingalways

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Apr 26, 2020
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I was never religious till my second attempt but now I believe God lives in every one of us. Please be kind to yourself. I'm here if you would like to discuss anything

Hi what changed your beliefs?
 
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whywere

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Off topic in away, BUT now this post shows why we are all ONE GLOBAL FAMILY!! We can have a discussion about a topic and be respectful towards each other family member AND we still love, care, have empathy and kindness towards one another. I TRULY FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF YOU AS FAMILY MEMBERS FOR A CRAPPY MONDAY YOU FOLKS HAVE REALLY HELPED ME ALOT, THANK YOU!! Walter:heart::heart::hug::hug::happy::happy::love::love:
 
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introspectious

introspectious

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I've always been fascinated by all religions and spiritual systems, but I think the monotheistic (Abrahamic) religions have been almost totally politicized over time.
 
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Off topic in away, BUT now this post shows why we are all ONE GLOBAL FAMILY!! We can have a discussion about a topic and be respectful towards each other family member AND we still love, care, have empathy and kindness towards one another. I TRULY FEEL BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF YOU AS FAMILY MEMBERS FOR A CRAPPY MONDAY YOU FOLKS HAVE REALLY HELPED ME ALOT, THANK YOU!! Walter:heart::heart::hug::hug::happy::happy::love::love:
Oh Walter those were some beautiful words, this site is lucky to have such a loving member Hun. Wish you all the best :hug:
 
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whywere

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Oh Walter those were some beautiful words, this site is lucky to have such a loving member Hun. Wish you all the best :hug:
THANK YOU, I wear my heart on my sleeve, and I am crying right now reading your response to me @Sherri . You are such a special person, and I really do mean it when I say I am SO PROUD and HUMBLE to have you as a global family member. All the best in the world to you@Sherri!!!! Walter:heart::hug:
 
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Nowadays, I consider myself the closest to a pantheist. Before, likely a nihilist.
It took time to manifest itself, but I've felt from recent experiences that I must be part of a broader experiment of some sort, and what stood out is that I'm positively interlinked with the people and events that surround me. There is a kind of premeditation, about testing and growth happening, although I would not dare to comment exactlywhat are the motivations pulling the strings. I do feel like a cell of a broader organism.
It's the most interesting belief system that I've come across as well!
 
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MrBigSad

MrBigSad

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I was on a hallucinogenic that contains a neurotoxin called greyanotoxin and believe I actually successfully ctb'd in a different universe and existence is all the thought process of a singular mind. But it's making me feel I'll try my best to be more alturistic. It's like watching others suffer is allowing myself to suffer.
 
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Sherri

Sherri

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THANK YOU, I wear my heart on my sleeve, and I am crying right now reading your response to me @Sherri . You are such a special person, and I really do mean it when I say I am SO PROUD and HUMBLE to have you as a global family member. All the best in the world to you@Sherri!!!! Walter:heart::hug:
Oh Walter now I have a teary eye also.... it's great to wear a heart on your sleeve, the most caring people I admire in the world had it too, Princess Diana, Mother Teresa, Ghandi, etc. Thank you. You made my day.
 
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Viro_Major

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It's the most interesting belief system that I've come across as well!

I learned about this current after feeling it from the inside. Oh well, no merit to finish last. The thoughts are recycled pff or maybe they are shared ?:wink:
 
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introspectious

introspectious

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I learned about this current after feeling it from the inside. Oh well, no merit to finish last The thoughts are recycled pff or maybe they are shared ?

I guess it's such a mystery, in fact probably the biggest one for us humans. There is so much good and bad in the world. But the earth does seem beautiful in its entirety. It's just that our lives can have so much turmoil. I guess it's the gift of being human thy we can see things in this way, and it's also a difficulty in being human that we can be so influenced by our own interpretations.
 
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Belaya Noch

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Sep 3, 2020
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Does anyone here believe in God? After my second attempt I believe our conciosness is infinite. Does anyone else feel the same?
To put it more specifically I'm now a sollopsist. I believe everyone is the same mind experiencing itself
Do you know that this attitude has even its specific name in philosophy? It's called an open individualism.

Open individualism is the view in the philosophy of self, according to which there exists only one numerically identical subject, who is everyone at all times. [Wikipedia]

I understand this in this way, that since it's impossible to determine identity unequivocally (because what are the constitutional features of self? How can I know that I'm the same man like a minute ago?), then it's also impossible to determine separateness. (BTW these are only my homemade thoughts, i'm not a philosopher or something).
 
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esse_est_percipi

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Do you know that this attitude has even its specific name in philosophy? It's called an open individualism.

Open individualism
is the view in the philosophy of self, according to which there exists only one numerically identical subject, who is everyone at all times. [Wikipedia]

I understand this in this way, that since it's impossible to determine identity unequivocally (because what are the constitutional features of self? How can I know that I'm the same man like a minute ago?), then it's also impossible to determine separateness. (BTW these are only my homemade thoughts, i'm not a philosopher or something).
I think the big bang singularity and the inflationary expansion phase could hold the key to open individualism.

If all the matter and energy of the universe was once contained in a space smaller than an atom, which then rapidly expanded into high-energy fields, those fields and the particles created were in a state of quantum entanglement.

Billions of years later, when higher-level consciousness gets going on planets like the earth in self-organizing replicating systems, instead of seeing it as separate islands of individual consciousness disconnected from each other, all the conscious entities should rather be seen as a single conscious being experiencing the universe in multiple nonlocal spacetime locations, all those locations connected by the previous quantum entanglement of the pre-universe singularity.

Whether the consciousness/awareness belongs to plants, animals or humans, it is all a single field connected at the quantum level by the big bang entanglement, which fluctuates and vibrates in correspondence to when things die and are born, and all the modalities and intensities of consciousness itself.

Individual death is not absolute death because the conscious field itself transcends and outlives any individual finite organism.
When you 'die' you dissolve back into the consciousness field state which is found within the universe and beyond space and time (Bohm's 'implicate order' found below the Planck length), which unfolds and gets filtered continuously at particular spacetime locations in the form of conscious living organisms.

All the trilobites, fish, dinosaurs, birds, apes, human ancestors, lions, zebras, insects, dogs, mice, plants, in sum everything that has ever been alive and had subjective experiences is actually one and the same consciousness having different experiences from different perspectives in spacetime.
 
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Oct 2, 2020
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This is a topic I could go on a long rant for, but I will refrain from doing so. Least to say, my doubts of any higher power are very high, but that's because I don't think some 'benevolent' god would allow any of his creations to suffer to this extent. Intervening in free will be damned, that's just an excuse in my opinion.

Overall, with as much hell that I, and so many others have gone through: I just don't know what to believe in at this point. But meh, it's not really something I want to debate or dive deeper into.
 
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Belaya Noch

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I think the big bang singularity and the inflationary expansion phase could hold the key to open individualism.

If all the matter and energy of the universe was once contained in a space smaller than an atom, which then rapidly expanded into high-energy fields, those fields and the particles created were in a state of quantum entanglement.

Billions of years later, when higher-level consciousness gets going on planets like the earth in self-organizing replicating systems, instead of seeing it as separate islands of individual consciousness disconnected from each other, all the conscious entities should rather be seen as a single conscious being experiencing the universe in multiple nonlocal spacetime locations, all those locations connected by the previous quantum entanglement of the pre-universe singularity.

Whether the consciousness/awareness belongs to plants, animals or humans, it is all a single field connected at the quantum level by the big bang entanglement, which fluctuates and vibrates in correspondence to when things die and are born, and all the modalities and intensities of consciousness itself.

Individual death is not absolute death because the conscious field itself transcends and outlives any individual finite organism.
When you 'die' you dissolve back into the consciousness field state which is found within the universe and beyond space and time (Bohm's 'implicate order' found below the Planck length), which unfolds and gets filtered continuously at particular spacetime locations in the form of conscious living organisms.

All the trilobites, fish, dinosaurs, birds, apes, human ancestors, lions, zebras, insects, dogs, mice, plants, in sum everything that has ever been alive and had subjective experiences is actually one and the same consciousness having different experiences from different perspectives in spacetime.
This is an interesting point of view, i've never thought in this way. BTW such an elaborate post is definitely worth to be seen by some wider audience :wink:
 
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those fields and the particles created were in a state of quantum entanglement.
I'm inclined to see things in a similar manner and I do like the way you articulated the idea.

I think modern physics is moving towards that exact theory of entanglement, with entangled particles collapsing out of subspace into higher dimensions over time, leading towards a growing complexity of matter.
Further, I'd suggest that under this model, this happens precisely because of the tendency for entropy to always increase within an enclosed system, and that the two principles occur in a paradoxical relationship resulting in a dynamic effect.

Can you guess why all electrons have the same charge and the same mass?
(Bohm's 'implicate order' found below the Planck length), which unfolds and gets filtered continuously at particular spacetime locations in the form of conscious living organisms.
This also potentially explains why the macroscopic matter of classical physics appears prima facie to have different rules to sub-atomic physics and no unified theory has developed.

Under this paradigm we are all outcrops in certain dimensions of a more pervasive and profound consciousness.
 
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I'm atheist who supports evolution, but I also believe in law of attraction and universal energies,

I do not believe in infinite consciousness at far as humans are concerned, however I do believe in energy never really dies.
 
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