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Jae

Jae

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Jul 25, 2021
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DISCLAIMER: I apologize in advance for my English, I use Google Translate.

Hello, this is the first time I am doing a post.



I am curious about your beliefs after death? (Heaven, hell, reincarnation ..)



Personally, I think that after death our consciousness endures eternally in a totally controllable dream situation. That is, we do not join our deceased family but we create it. Imagine, an afterlife where you are in control. If you want to spend a part of eternity with your ex you can .. If you want to be rich you can .. If you want to make your innermost desires come to life you can ...



I think that's what makes me happy to be able to ctb when the time comes.



Tell me that wonderful things can happen to me.



I'm curious to hear from you now.
 
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Huntfish34

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I'm sorry. I can't quite understand / read this. There are Numerous threads about this , I believe.
 
shijsrzh

shijsrzh

Deluded Moron
Dec 2, 2020
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You forgot to google translate your text. Fortunately, I understand enough French to comprehend your question.

Since we are human, all of this belongs to the realm of speculation. So, I won't say I believe after life to be so and so...
But I will tell you what I wished the after life to be like based on my metaphysics in life:

I hope that after death we all merge back into "the absolute", or "Brahman"; that from which all energy and forms of life arise.
Or, that we're freed (Moksha) if our current manifestation is the last reincarnation our essence (Atman) is gonna take.
 
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Thanks, I just edited the English text. Hope you can read it correctly now
 
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Lost Magic

Lost Magic

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There is a good chance consciousness does survive death, but I am fine with eternal nothingness. Basically, I really have no control over what happens next. To die would be an awfully great adventure.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

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I think that after death our consciousness endures eternally in a totally controllable dream situation. That is, we do not join our deceased family but we create it. Imagine, an afterlife where you are in control. If you want to spend a part of eternity with your ex you can .. If you want to be rich you can .. If you want to make your innermost desires come to life you can ...


>>This may be my favorite envisioning of an afterlife. :) Mine is an imperceptible expanse of ... nothing. No awareness. No pleasure. No pain. Just dumb matter, like rocks or sand. I've become more concerned over the moments of dying. How long we're conscious and the images our brain plays. Recently, I've read the work of some medical teams that portrays dying as enduring far longer than thought before. So your happy picture seems a much better alternative.
 
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FuneralCry

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I think there is nothing after death, we return to the same nothingness where we were at before we were born, like how time passed and we were not aware of anything. I think once we lose consciousness when we die, that is it for us. I find this comforting actually.
 
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SuicidalAgain

SuicidalAgain

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Sep 9, 2020
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I hope for non-existance and that our consciousness dies with the brain.

There was a time in which I was interested in spirituality and believed in reincarnation. I did a past life regression, twice. Once I failed to "get there" (still had to pay) and the second one I actually saw 2 different lives and a spiritual plane but... In retrospect, that could have perfectly been my imagination. TBF the experiences were very like the ones I have now, and the spiritual plane was something I had previously imagined (the classic above the clouds thing XD). In one of the lives I had a really strong pain in one foot that I felt physically... But couldn't that have been psychosomatic?
I'm doubting all of it now because it wasn't very detailed, all were settings that were very familiar to me, so I'm sure it was my brain playing tricks on me.
 
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toforigivelife

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Jul 5, 2021
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I've had some personal experiences that seem to have demonstrated that consciousness and our true selves survive death and go on. But, I haven't died yet so obviously I can't say for certain.

I don't believe all of the tales told by those who claim to have had near death experiences but a lot of these experiences are interesting. What's consistent with these stories is; there is no "hell", you have to work through your wrongdoings but no one is "condemned" (not even those who end their own lives), there is no "true religion", as a matter of fact religion has nothing to with the "other side", only you, your heart and how you treat others, you leave life, and your and your body behind and the real you, your true self emerges and survives, that it is beautiful experience filled with an indescribable unconditional love, you are reunited with those you've lost.

Very common themes involving near death experiences.

Another common reaction to these experiences is that death is not to be feared.

I do not fear eternal nothingness but there is a possibility that there is something beyond this life. Something mysterious, something good, something beautiful.
 
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Jumping_realms

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There is nothing after death, in my opinion.

I think after 6 minutes of no brain activity, consciousness and your life cease to exist.
 
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BeyondGoodNEvil

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Jun 22, 2020
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beliefs after death is gotta be the most over talked thing in the planet
but anyways
i believe that believing in anything related to afterlife always relates to the persons
outlook of life in general
basically i could say afterlife exist cause i have good outcomes in life friends,wealth,health and itll be better after death as ill be awarded more etc
afterlife dosent exist cause i had bad outcomes in life, i have been a vicitm,crippled ,raped,an abuser a murderer, etc
Do i believe their to be an afterlife Idk.Even if their is an answer I dont want to know.
as far as i know we all experience death eventually thats all
 
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_Minsk

_Minsk

death: the cure for life
Dec 9, 2019
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I could imagine that there's a place where we came from and where we go back once we leave the body. When we leave our bodies we simply move back into the spirit realm, or we somehow start to perceive it again, that's what i could imagine.

All these nde reports seem pretty convincing to me, or at least what the people report about their experience.
I have a hard time imagining that something such complex like our consciousness arose from pure randomness, okay, maybe if there are an infinite amount of parallel universes, but still, I have hard time imagining this.

I am a passionate psychonaut and on my latest psychedelic experience (mescaline, san pedro cactus) I've seen these entities (which some people talk about) for my fist time. They seem realer than the normal "real". they where kind of semi transparent, they could also talk. I've had many trips but these entities didn't appear like hallucinations to me because they were actual 3d objects/entities and i never saw hallucinations which were 3d objects ever, except this time with these entities. but I'm still not 100% convinced, maybe it was just a hallucination, hopefully i can do it again one time with the focus on these entities. they did radiate pure calmness, it was kinda impressive, i can really recommend san pedro, it was very euphoric, even though im a very depressed person
 
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hʚll

hʚll

not real.
Jun 18, 2021
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i think there is nothing after death. that's what i hope too. because nothingness is the safest thing i can imagine. i can't trust any other scenario to not hide some dark side to it.
good luck
 
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ihatemylife

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Jul 14, 2021
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I think there is nothing after death, we return to the same nothingness where we were at before we were born, like how time passed and we were not aware of anything. I think once we lose consciousness when we die, that is it for us. I find this comforting actually.
So hoping you are correct. I can't deal with any more existing.
 
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All Things Must Pass

All Things Must Pass

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Apr 14, 2021
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Great, afterlife thread no. 567893927. At the same day, no less.
 
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Seiko

"Nothing's gonna hurt you, baby."
Jul 9, 2021
167
I am a Catholic. I do believe in eternity. Regardless, I am fine with nothingness if that happens to be the case.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

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May 31, 2018
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What's consistent with these stories is; there is no "hell", you have to work through your wrongdoings but no one is "condemned"...

Have you come across any accounts involving other kinds of animals experiencing "an afterlife"? Especially non-pets? Thanks for sharing...
i can really recommend san pedro, it was very euphoric, even though im a very depressed person
Any major cautions about trying san pedro?
 
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toforigivelife

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Have you come across any accounts involving other kinds of animals experiencing "an afterlife"? Especially non-pets? Thanks for sharing...

Any major cautions about trying san pedro?
Not sure what you mean by non-pets but people who have had near death experiences have said that they've been reunited with deceased pets and had the sense that the grass and trees, etc. all seemed to be vibrantly "alive" somehow.
 
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SuicidalAgain

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Sep 9, 2020
107
Not sure what you mean by non-pets but people who have had near death experiences have said that they've been reunited with deceased pets and had the sense that the grass and trees, etc. all seemed to be vibrantly "alive" somehow.
They mean wild animals, cattle, bugs... You know, the kind that don't matter to most people.

Correct me if I'm wrong @FTL.Wanderer
 
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toforigivelife

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They mean wild animals, cattle, bugs... You know, the kind that don't matter to most people.

Correct me if I'm wrong @FTL.Wanderer
I'm not saying that near death experiences or NDEs are based on scientific fact but "experiencers" have stated that everything that has a life force, including plant and animal life, "lives on" in what they believe is the next realm.

The late film critic Roger Ebert stated shortly before his death from cancer that this, the world, this life, is "an elaborate hoax" and that there is an a "vastness" that exists.

Hallucination? I don't know. He and his widow were both intelligent, logical people who didn't believe in an afterlife and she didn't feel that he was hallucinating.

It's not rock solid scientific proof. I just find it interesting.
 
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Dear Agony

Dear Agony

The Void
Jan 24, 2020
296
Perhaps, something happens. But I actually *want* to be right about nothing happening after death, deep inside. Because then that means all of this wasn't just a test. That means I didn't deserve any of the suffering I went through, it was all just a coincidence. Those who find solace in the fact something might happen puzzle me. Because then that means life has an inherent meaning beyond just pure biology, and that we're here for a reason. How does that make you feel better? That you somehow deserve suffering you never asked for?
 
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anothernameless

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I don't know what happens, but I hope it ends in a way where there aren't consequences for suicide or for generally being lazy and selfish. And that it ends.
 
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toforigivelife

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Jul 5, 2021
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I don't know what happens, but I hope it ends in a way where there aren't consequences for suicide or for generally being lazy and selfish. And that it ends.
Acçording to science and skeptics, it just ends. According to people have had near death experiences there's no punishment. Sounds like a win-win.
 
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ClownMe

ClownMe

Don't Cry for Me, I'm Already Dead
Apr 7, 2021
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Absolutely nothing, you wont even feel anything because you cant feel nothingness.
 
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toforigivelife

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Perhaps, something happens. But I actually *want* to be right about nothing happening after death, deep inside. Because then that means all of this wasn't just a test. That means I didn't deserve any of the suffering I went through, it was all just a coincidence. Those who find solace in the fact something might happen puzzle me. Because then that means life has an inherent meaning beyond just pure biology, and that we're here for a reason. How does that make you feel better? That you somehow deserve suffering you never asked for?
Good question. Believers would tell you that life and all of its horrible variables is just a part of the mystery and non-believers would tell you that were just a product of biology and you either luck out and get a good life or a terrible or something in between and then at some point it just ends.
 
snxw

snxw

lets pretend we're numb
Apr 7, 2020
43
i believe death is like before you were born. nothingness.
 
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nopointofliving

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Apr 19, 2021
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We merge in the nothingness/the one. It won't be similar to this life.
 
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Freelyffe88

Freelyffe88

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Jun 28, 2021
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DISCLAIMER: I apologize in advance for my English, I use Google Translate.

Hello, this is the first time I am doing a post.



I am curious about your beliefs after death? (Heaven, hell, reincarnation ..)



Personally, I think that after death our consciousness endures eternally in a totally controllable dream situation. That is, we do not join our deceased family but we create it. Imagine, an afterlife where you are in control. If you want to spend a part of eternity with your ex you can .. If you want to be rich you can .. If you want to make your innermost desires come to life you can ...



I think that's what makes me happy to be able to ctb when the time comes.



Tell me that wonderful things can happen to me.



I'm curious to hear from you now.
One of the better things I've come across on the subject is a book called Journey of Souls. It's a case study of lives between lives associated with people under deep hypnosis. If you go on Youtube there's a 50 minute video titled "Michael Newton Ph.D Journey of Souls" that summarizes it pretty good. It's a pretty positive outlook on the death and dying process. For most people who check it out it should be pretty convictious and it may put you at ease about some things.

I unfortunately believe that there's more of a sinister spin on the subject. Of us being lied too and trapped in a reincarnation cycle as opposed to a voluntary reincarnation cycle with purpose, but such an outlook is very unhealthy and not good if you want to get through this life with as much happiness as possible.

Either way the human body is nothing more than an avatar. A piece of technology that allows us to experience this reality in a human form. Everything about the human body is electrical with blood being similar as engine oil to a car. We are not our bodies... the body is merely a vessel, which we occupy. Similar to when we occupy a car and drive it around. The car allows us to do everything that a car is designed to do, but we're not the car, we're just driving it.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

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Not sure what you mean by non-pets but people who have had near death experiences have said that they've been reunited with deceased pets and had the sense that the grass and trees, etc. all seemed to be vibrantly "alive" somehow.
Thank you...
They mean wild animals, cattle, bugs... You know, the kind that don't matter to most people.

Correct me if I'm wrong @FTL.Wanderer
EXACTLY. I'm always wondering about NDE, why aren't other species--the kinds we run over with our cars and don't give them a second thought--mentioned a lot more? I mean, most animals aren't humans, but the only other animals I hear or read about in the afterlife are only the ones we like--dogs, cats...
 
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toforigivelife

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Thank you...

EXACTLY. I'm always wondering about NDE, why aren't other species--the kinds we run over with our cars and don't give them a second thought--mentioned a lot more? I mean, most animals aren't humans, but the only other animals I hear or read about in the afterlife are only the ones we like--dogs, cats...
Many years ago I was reading a book about whatever the study of plants is called and a scientist, this part wasn't about the paranormal or any belief in an afterlife, said that when plants die an energy seems to leave them and he was wondering, almost in a joking tone, could we say that plants have souls?

If we believe in souls or energy for all living things then that should also apply to plant life and animals, everything that has life.

Several near death experiencers have said that even rocks give off an energy.
 
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