You are a beautiful human being! I see your suffering and Im so sorry. Sending Love to you!

[dropintheocean]

I just want to say that it breaks my heart so see you suffer. Yes you. I see you and I understand. I suffer too. I just want to say that you are important. You are precious. You are enough. You are beautiful. You really are good. No matter what your thoughts and actions have been. You are good. You really are good. Im sending my love to you. Im sending blessings. And I hope you find refugee in something bigger than this world of suffering. To have a place of refugee, call it whatever you wish.

Just wanted to send love to you. Felt so heartbroken to know how much theres suffering.

 

[feiganbaums]

I just want to say that it breaks my heart so see you suffer. Yes you. I see you and I understand. I suffer too. I just want to say that you are important. You are precious. You are enough. You are beautiful. You really are good. No matter what your thoughts and actions have been. You are good. You really are good. Im sending my love to you. Im sending blessings. And I hope you find refugee in something bigger than this world of suffering. To have a place of refugee, call it whatever you wish.

Just wanted to send love to you. Felt so heartbroken to know how much theres suffering.

You are so compassionate. Does focussing on other people's suffering make you suffer more, or does it make you feel less alone?

 

[InezSerrano]

I just want to say that it breaks my heart so see you suffer. Yes you. I see you and I understand. I suffer too. I just want to say that you are important. You are precious. You are enough. You are beautiful. You really are good. No matter what your thoughts and actions have been. You are good. You really are good. Im sending my love to you. Im sending blessings. And I hope you find refugee in something bigger than this world of suffering. To have a place of refugee, call it whatever you wish.

Just wanted to send love to you. Felt so heartbroken to know how much theres suffering.

Thank you for your kind words. I recall a time when I received an anonymous letter with a similar sentiment. Some people are so sweet.

 

[dropintheocean]

You are so compassionate. Does focussing on other people's suffering make you suffer more, or does it make you feel less alone?

You are so kind! Both I think. But at the same time I feel that its important for me not only to think about my own suffering. It doesnt feel right. I have more of a buddhidt worldview. That our innate nature of mind is the same for all of us. Like branches of the tree, still the same tree. So we are more connected than it may seem like. Ultimately. So I feel that being compassionate is inside us all, naturally. But often we cant see it since being inside our own bubbles. But I cannot not care. Others suffering just touches me and does break my heart. I do this practise called Tonglen. Where I send love and blessings for others. And to myself. It also effects me that I dont feel so depressed since I can feel more love.

 

[feiganbaums]

Aw you are just so pure. I feel like I really get you although I don't feel as heartbroken by other people's suffering, I don't know why.
I practice metta meditation which sounds like a similar thing. I'll look Tonglen up too.

 

[ClownMe]

Sending love straight back to you

 

[dropintheocean]

Aw you are just so pure. I feel like I really get you although I don't feel as heartbroken by other people's suffering, I don't know why.
I practice metta meditation which sounds like a similar thing. I'll look Tonglen up too.

Thank you for your kind words! I understand. Yes, this is smiliar to metta. I love recitating mantras and also praying/saying mantras of buddhas. It helps feeling love and noticing minds true nature which is perfect and clear as it is.

 

[motel rooms]

And I hope you find refugee in something bigger

Thank you. I found a big sexy refugee from Syria a year ago, but he left me after 2 days & nights

Thank you.

 

[Marktheghost]

You are enough.

I am enough what though? My social skills aren't enough. That's why I'm suicidally lonely.

 

[miserableforever]

I am enough what though? My social skills aren't enough. That's why I'm suicidally lonely.

Yep. My actually ok'ish face with non existent social skills have ruined my life.
I'm not alone but lonely, watching the last few good years pass me by cause I can't participate in anything.

 

[dropintheocean]

I am enough what though? My social skills aren't enough. That's why I'm suicidally lonely.

Im so sorry of your suffering. You are enough just as you are. Just being a being. Our society is so unwise to teach people you have to be "somebody" or in someway or have something, do something to be enough. To matter. To be precious. Its not true, its a biggest lie. You dont have to have any skills nor have certain qualities to be precious. To be worthy. You just are. Like babies, old and sick people are too. We all are. Just being a being is enough. Is worthy of love and respect. Since your innate nature is good. Some say its love.

 

[dropintheocean]

Yep. My actually ok'ish face with non existent social skills have ruined my life.
I'm not alone but lonely, watching the last few good years pass me by cause I can't participate in anything.

Im sorry! I understand, the feeling of loneliness is real. I pray that you will feel less lonely and find more connection with others. Im allergic and cant have a pet but would love to. Many times easier to connect with animals. Sending love to you!

 

[FuneralCry]

None of us deserve this suffering, but in a life like this suffering is inevitable. Existence is completely unnecessary, we were all perfectly fine not existing until we were forced to live. For me the pain will only end when I die, being alive hurts me. The only thing I want is to be free from it all. I wish you the best.

 

[mlha]

That our innate nature of mind is the same for all of us. Like branches of the tree, still the same tree. So we are more connected than it may seem like.

The nature of mind is to be subjective and disconnected though.

 

[dropintheocean]

The nature of mind is to be subjective and disconnected though.

Actually thats how the mind often/usually functions in people. But minds true nature, in its orginal state, is not like that. Its possible to recognize this forexample in meditation if one has had enough experience. The nature of mind, rigpa, natural state of mind, is pure awakeness, subtle bliss and stability. Theres no lack or disconnect. Its amazing really. That our true nature is like that. But since we have all the thoughts, emotions, subconcious mind it does feel like how you said. Unfortunately. I just try to see through it with the help of meditation.

 

[mlha]

Actually thats how the mind often/usually functions in people. But minds true nature, in its orginal state, is not like that. Its possible to recognize this forexample in meditation if one has had enough experience. The nature of mind, rigpa, natural state of mind, is pure awakeness, subtle bliss and stability. Theres no lack or disconnect. Its amazing really. That our true nature is like that. But since we have all the thoughts, emotions, subconcious mind it does feel like how you said. Unfortunately. I just try to see through it with the help of meditation.

I've never been in such a state, is it close to ego-death or to some lower developmental stages of self-awareness? Then I'd agree it's closer to the original state. However, our minds also have in their nature to develop self-awareness, to have egos. So I wouldn't label the pre-ego stage (or similar states) as the true nature.

 

[dropintheocean]

I've never had been in such a state, is it close to ego-death or to some lower developmental stages of self-awareness? Then I'd agree it's closer to original state. However, our minds also have in their nature to develop self-awareness, to have egos. So I wouldn't label the pre-ego stage (or similar states) as the true nature.

I understand. Its not common to notice the natural state of mind (which has different names like rigpa, pristine awareness, buddhanature, nature of mind etc. different traditions and teachings use different names). But we all have experiences of this although people commonly arent aware of it. Sometimes events like relaxation of the mind, something traumatic or watching a beautiful landscape can make you notice it. I say it, even though its not it. Its the basis of everything. Its not ones thoughts, nor emotions not ones body. Its this awareness where thoughts and emotions appear and move. Like the common metaphor of sky and clouds. Sky being ones true nature of mind and clouds being the "objects" moving in it. I dont think I can put links here, so you could google those words I mentioned; rigpa etc. So in reality its not a state. Its how things are snd its our true nature. The basis of your mind. So in reality we all are in it all the time. It doesent change or shift like emotions, thoughts and the body. Its The Awareness. That which is aware of everything and can be aware of the content of mind like "ego stuctures". This is how I understand it and how msny traditions/teachers explain it. But to know it yourself you need to notice it. And that can be done with the help of meditation and a good teacher should be able to point that for you. And give instructiins. To rest in that recognition is called ati yoga practise in some traditions. Thanks for commenting!

 

[mlha]

@dropintheocean How can you feel bliss if you empty your thoughts, feelings of your body, and emotions? Also are you trying to say that becoming aware without self makes you feel more connected to others afterwards? I think that's possible to make you feel like that, but I don't find it meaningful. I want to feel connected to someone particular, otherwise it seems like that feeling has been hijacked.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

Is this a message to a particular person or the entire forum?

 

[dropintheocean]

Is this a message to a particular person or the entire forum?

To everyone

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Yeah, no. Speaking only for myself here, I'm not beautiful in any sense of the word. I don't deserve refuge or safety from my own evil but thanks for your vaguely worded platitudes which I chose to narcissistically assume was addressed to me and then subsequently threw back at your face.

 

[dropintheocean]

@dropintheocean How can you feel bliss if you empty your thoughts, feelings of your body, and emotions? Also are you trying to say that becoming aware without self makes you feel more connected to others afterwards? I think that's possible to make you feel like that, but I don't find it meaningful. I want to feel connected to someone particular, otherwise it seems like that feeling has been hijacked.

If you google those words/concepts (rigpa, buddhanature m etc.) you can find many articles about this Awareness. But it is thought and you can see it yourself through practise that this Awareness is not nothingness. It has qualities; clarity/awakeness, subtle bliss (some say aliveness, love) and groundedness (stabilty, it doesent change). Your mind doesent create those qualities like emotions and thoughts happen. They just are there as qualities/characteristics. The thing is just to notice this Awareness which have thise qualities automatically. By noticing Awareness you come to understand that this is the same basis of everyones mind. We all have this as our true nature of mind. So the differences are in the form; our bodies, thoughts and beliefs differ but everyone has this same base of their mind. Awareness. Which is not nothingness but very much alive. Not blank, not dull. That makes us be able to also feel the connection with others because we share this common true nature of mind. Its really beautiful. Of course we can still appreciate our differences and understand similarities in feelings and thoughts/beliefs.

 

[Disco Biscuit]

To everyone

In what ways are we precious and important?

 

[dropintheocean]

In what ways are we precious and important?

Hi Disco Biscuit! I like your name Not in any ways. You just are, like everyone is. Just being a being is innately precious and worthy. I just wanted to offer my respect and love, even through distance to everyone here. Its sad that theres so much suffering. In many ways there would be so much less suffering if we would just respect and value each other, support and be compassionate. Just be kind to each other.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Just being a being is innately precious and worthy. I just wanted to offer my respect and love, even through distance to everyone here. Its sad that theres so much suffering.

Sure but what about the monsters who put us here in the first place? Are they so deserving of love and respect too? Gimme a break.

In my case I'm my own worst abuser. To love and respect me is to also love and respect the horrible person who's inflicting all this suffering upon me in the first place. Where do you get off from enabling the miserable waste of space that revels in antagonizing and abusing me?

 

[rationaltake]

Thanks. I'm no longer able to meditate or experience the heart chakra. I'm done.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Thank you. Beyond my damaged ego that wants to refuse, or my wounded child within (that wants 2 decimate everything with an axe... or take the entire hotel with me when I go...) I see you and feel you and thank you for the connection.. for caring. You are truly brave and beautiful, beyond measure. Even in my brokenness I can see that. You have reminded me that even though I have loads of stuff to work through im just letting things fall apart because there's no time left... (I've realized lately how badly I need to go, how much I'm not made for this life...) Tonight my revolver is looking particularly inviting. Its not even my preferred method, but I'm so desperate, rolling bullets around a dinnerplate on the kitchen table seems the only thing to do to pass the time. Yeah me at my most beautiful, whatever that means... the risks seem worth it. Let's see what the insanity of another ugly dawn brings... whatever it is, its just Time (and the taking of things from me...) Im a hero at putting things off, 30 years of heroin addiction has taught me that... so no - possibly not tonight. Recently I have lost my fear of death, im thankful to say. I am the master of being never enough, and then slave of more. Everything is perfect, even in its naturally defective state...
My point is this, you made me feel less alone, I thank you for that. My revolver and i have been locked in a debate for days now...
Beyond these puerile fragile egos, know you are well loved (albeit imperfectly by me) in return.
From my journals (I hope you can read my handwriting!) :: for you, all of you.
Prayer of Bhodhisattva ::


With Much love XMiguel // TriggerHappy

 

[dustbiter]

thank u :3

 

[stellabelle]

Not speaking of this specific user or post.

I have to ask.

Why is it, that the same people who say or write these redundant statements tend to be the same people who ignore us or directly cause that distress or "suffering"?

Oh that's right. Because it's "entertainment."

 

[dropintheocean]

Sure but what about the monsters who put us here in the first place? Are they so deserving of love and respect too? Gimme a break.

In my case I'm my own worst abuser. To love and respect me is to also love and respect the horrible person who's inflicting all this suffering upon me in the first place. Where do you get off from enabling the miserable waste of space that revels in antagonizing and abusing me?

Its difficult. Just my take on this subject; Yes, the world is full of people committing horrible actions to others and causing suffering to others and to themselves. I also have my own experiences of this, and not in a small way. But in my view all people have the same nature of mind as their core that is free from any negativity. That I can respect and love. That is not evil, bad, unwise etc. All the unwise actions, thoughts and emotions are the surface. Mindstates that come and go. Those I can critizise and judge. And if Im not ready I dont have to forgive those aspects. But knowing theres this innate core natue of mind in everyone, that is pure, its possible to forgive others and yourself. If you want. So for me its a practise. I want to forgive and respect everyone due to this innate pure nature of everyones mind. But it dosent mean I accept unwise actions or behaviour toward others. Or it could be that I may not want to have them in my life.