Discussion Would you take people with you?

[mistymoo]

OP just asked a question wittout inciting, committing or giving any advice on it. If a simple "yes" without any action affects you, you may need to chill, lmao.

Apart of that, I think the planet is better without some people, like sexual assaulters. So depending on who, I might say yes lol.

I don't think it's okay for humans to decide which other humans get to live or die and why. Even in a court of law I don't agree. I think people like sexual assulters need to be thrown in a prison cell with the door welded shut. Let them rot and go insane playing the way back machine in their own heads

 

[sometimesoon]

Only if they wanted to go as well.

 

[No More Tears]

No, despite the fact that I've been wronged so many times, doesn't mean I wish them dead.

There is one person I would take with me, but he's in prison.

 

[ad astra]

No, I wouldn't take anyone with me.
If someone wishes to come along, that is solely their own choice.

 

[Esokabat]

The question inherently implies an immature, hateful, vengeful, self- centered mind whose posture is victimhood, without any ownership of life, everything happens to them, no self agency, massive unhealed (probably childhood) trauma, a self that always on alert, no sense of safety, the world is out to get them, for no fault of their own.
These are the vibes I get from someone whose mind would conjure up such childish question.
Someone hurt you as a child, and now as an adult, you percieve the world as something out to get you.
Whether you CTB or not is your choice. If you decide to continue, I sincerely recommend therapy, otherwise your unhealed trauma will cause you so much pain that your whole life will end up to be an out of control swirl of suffering and victimhood.
Either way, ctb or not, good luck.

 

[Downdraft]

I don't think it's okay for humans to decide which other humans get to live or die and why. Even in a court of law I don't agree. I think people like sexual assulters need to be thrown in a prison cell with the door welded shut. Let them rot and go insane playing the way back machine in their own heads

Hence the "might". And to be fair, I don't like the idea of that people not suffering in life lol.

However, if I knew they'd get away with it, or the world was better, I'd still go ahead. I may not have right to decide for others, but that group shouldn't either.

The question inherently implies an immature, hateful, vengeful, self- centered mind whose posture is victimhood, without any ownership of life, everything happens to them, no self agency, massive unhealed (probably childhood) trauma, a self that always on alert, no sense of safety, the world is out to get them, for no fault of their own.
These are the vibes I get from someone whose mind would conjure up such childish question.

Unnecessarily rude towards OP. No one deserves to be insulted over a question. They probably wouldn't do it, and you may just jumped to conclusions.

 

[untothedepths]

once again, i do not condone violence against others. i will not take the lives of others, nor directly involve people into committing suicide with me. i dont know how many times i have to say this, i dont want to hurt anyone, i just want to personally fucking die already.

 

[Esokabat]

Hence the "might". And to be fair, I don't like the idea of that people not suffering in life lol.

However, if I knew they'd get away with it, or the world was better, I'd still go ahead. I may not have right to decide for others, but that group shouldn't either.


Unnecessarily rude towards OP. No one deserves to be insulted over a question. They probably wouldn't do it, and you may just jumped to conclusions.

Sometimes you have to hold up a mirror. To help them see themselves. Sometimes holding the mirror for them is the most loving thing you can do. And yes, sometimes holding that mirror will be rude, because it is doing its job. If you don't want to see what the mirror shows, change. My objective is not to avoid being rude. That would not serve anyone, including OP. Be not rude, if that's your thing. I play a different game.

 

[Downdraft]

Sometimes you have to hold up a mirror. To help them see themselves. Sometimes holding the mirror for them is the most loving thing you can do. And yes, sometimes holding that mirror will be rude, because it is doing its job. If you don't want to see what the mirror shows, change. My objective is not to avoid being rude. That would not serve anyone, including OP. Be not rude, if that's your thing. I play a different game.

Have you considered that maybe OP is curious and just wanted to see our opinions, and maybe you just got a false idea of who they are? Lol.

I'm saying this because I've also wondered the same thing, and I'm not a killer, and I'm just fascinated by demographics, and what trends people are likely to follow. I did a poll on similar beliefs despite having been very vocal against that group of people. Am I one of them?

Imagine just being curious, and instead being hinted as a victimist, hateful and terrible person and a "self-centered ass", in some of your words. Specially in a suicide forum.

Besides, you're not gonna help anyone. If your only "help" you have to offer is to insult with no real insight, consider not doing it. You just said you won't even bother being tactful. Who got you the idea that belittling someone will heal their trauma?

 

[Esokabat]

Have you considered that maybe OP is curious and just wanted to see our opinions, and maybe you just got a false idea of who they are? Lol.

I'm saying this because I've also wondered the same thing, and I'm not a killer, and I'm just fascinated by demographics, and what trends people are likely to follow. I did a poll on similar beliefs despite having been very vocal against that group of people. Am I one of them?

Imagine just being curious, and instead being hinted as a victimist, hateful and terrible person and a "self-centered ass", in some of your words. Specially in a suicide forum.

Besides, you're not gonna help anyone. If your only "help" you have to offer is to insult with no real insight, consider not doing it. You just said you won't even bother being tactful. Who got you the idea that belittling someone will heal their trauma?

I knew you will respond, had to have the last word. If words don't help heal someone's trauma, what they will face is much worse than words. Life will slap them around until they are ready to look at the mirror, and believe me, life will knock you out, slap you around, kick your ass, turn your world upside down. Life will do much worse than words.

 

[Downdraft]

I knew you will respond, had to have the last word.

I don't want the last word. I was just discussing.

Besides, it's the how that I'm talking about. Tact is still important. It's not the same than saying to never make OP aware of their (alleged) condition. And there's a chance they'd feel even more rejected and unlikely to change if they see hostility. Happens all the time, in different contexts.

 

[Serial Experi Pain]

I'd never hurt anyone else purposely out of revenge even if I had reason to. Why would I do that to others after experiencing it myself??? Not just hurting them but everyone else involved with them? I mean, they're likely going through their own shit... I wouldn't want to set off a whole chain reaction of pain beyond what little would happen if I were to CTB. Just take yourself out if you want to CTB, leave others out of it as much as possible. This question boiled my blood, but I am addressing it as if it's a simple curiosity instead of someone actually asking whether it's a good idea or not...

I'm glad to see so many people are empathetic, which is why I really love it here.

 

[mistymoo]

Hence the "might". And to be fair, I don't like the idea of that people not suffering in life lol.

However, if I knew they'd get away with it, or the world was better, I'd still go ahead. I may not have right to decide for others, but that group shouldn't either.

I'm a bit slow what other group do you mean?

 

[Unspoken7612]

Metaphorically, if midway through my attempt I hallucinated that a bus was going to drive me into the void, there are people whose spirits I would like to comfort me on the final part of my journey.

Literally, would I kill people? Hell no.

 

[CantDoIt]

I wouldn't even take anyone with me if they wronged me severely. It's everyone's individual choice to go when they go, or to die of natural causes.

 

[plast1c_sk1n]

Not exactly the question but I sometimes wish I could just forget about everything, leave my current life behind, and become a vigilante. There are people who deserve to die. Not people who have hurt me personally but people like child abusers & rapists & yk. I would love to be able to get rid of as many of those as possible.
But as for someone to take with me, I'd want it to be the love of my life. A double suicide with my favourite person feels like a perfect ending (only as long as they wanted it as well of course) So the last thing we see is each other

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

Definitely not, even if they wronged me. I only have a right to make decisions about my own life and cannot make them for other people. A choice of this importance can only be theirs. Otherwise I would be basically committing murder.

 

[ashtoreth]

No. I don't even particularly wish harm on them. I just wish I could erase them from my mind completely.

relate so much

 

[imsotired35]

Those who have hurt me…I think about revenge but in other ways, not murder. I have too much empathy to take another life and be ok with it. They have families, children, friends, their own life to live regardless of how they may have intentionally or unintentionally, physically or emotionally hurt somebody else.

 

[dolemitedrums]

No, I just want my own bus ticket. I have been done pretty dirty but I'll leave that all to the universe to sort out.

 

[sos]

why the hell would i wanna take people who did me wrong with me

the bus is full, sorry but not sorry

like gl hf on this rotten world

if i happen to become a ghost once i die, ive gotta be able to haunt someone right ? ? ? ?

ill casper the ghost the shit out of them for the rest of their lives