Would you go to court for your right to die?

[noname223]

There are some publicly known people in my country who fight for their right to die. I searched for the one who I am thinking about. He is a right to die activist and he has a severe case of multiple sclerosis. He is quite often in news shows.

In my countrry assisted suicide is technically legal. But N is illegal. Many severely ill people go to court for their right to get it legally. I am not fully sure how I am feeling about it. On the one hand I really admire their strength. I think it is horrible that a death with dignity is so hard in our societies. But I ask myself if these people all do it for idealistic reasons. If you contact assisted suicide organizations they offer other lethal means as far as I know. Maybe it is too expensive for them but I rather doubt it. Maybe they want to make an ethical point. I would sympathize with that a lot. Maybe they want to use the most peaceful method.

However I honestly ask myself if these people just don't know any other peaceful methods. This is something I ask myself a lot. These people endure court fights which cost a lot of energy/time and probably a lot of money. I ask myself why these people torture themselves so hard. I can partly relate to it though. But I would feel a little bit humiliated to be honest if they deny me the right to die publicly. I had to out myself in front of the media and my chances in court would not be that good. All this fight just so that some bureaucrats can show me the middle finger.

I think fighting for the right to die is pretty important though. But I think I don't have the nerves for it. For dumb comments on the internet. For religious and ignorant people calling me insane or a sinner. Treating me like a child or non compos mentis.

If I could stay anonymous I might would go to court. I am just way too obsessed what other people think of me.

 

[hush hush]

There are some publicly known people in my country who fight for their right to die. I searched for the one who I am thinking about. He is a right to die activist and he has a severe case of multiple sclerosis. He is quite often in news shows.

In my countrry assisted suicide is technically legal. But N is illegal. Many severely ill people go to court for their right to get it legally. I am not fully sure how I am feeling about it. On the one hand I really admire their strength. I think it is horrible that a death with dignity is so hard in our societies. But I ask myself if these people all do it for idealistic reasons. If you contact assisted suicide organizations they offer other lethal means as far as I know. Maybe it is too expensive for them but I rather doubt it. Maybe they want to make an ethical point. I would sympathize with that a lot. Maybe they want to use the most peaceful method.

However I honestly ask myself if these people just don't know any other peaceful methods. This is something I ask myself a lot. These people endure court fights which cost a lot of energy/time and probably a lot of money. I ask myself why these people torture themselves so hard. I can partly relate to it though. But I would feel a little bit humiliated to be honest if they deny me the right to die publicly. I had to out myself in front of the media and my chances in court would not be that good. All this fight just so that some bureaucrats can show me the middle finger.

I think fighting for the right to die is pretty important though. But I think I don't have the nerves for it. For dumb comments on the internet. For religious and ignorant people calling me insane or a sinner. Treating me like a child or non compos mentis.

If I could stay anonymous I might would go to court. I am just way too obsessed what other people think of me.

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1.The right to suicide has been established through a case law in the European Court of Human Rights: "The Court considers that an individual's right to decide by what means and at what point his or her life will end, provided he or she is capable of freely reaching a decision on this question and acting in consequence, is one of the aspects of the right to respect for private life within the meaning of Article 8 of the Convention". (Haas vs Switzerland, paragraph 51)
HAAS v. SWITZERLAND [2011] ECHR 2422 (20 January 2011)
2. However, it is up to individual countries to regulate assisted suicide and euthanasia, since the countries cannot come into consensus regarding this issue that comes into conflict with the obligation to protect life (without taking into account whether the owner the life wants it).
3. Instead of this, many countries remove effective suicide methods , as the European Court of Human Rights cannot compel them to legalize assisted suicide (we need a new case law).
4. So, you have to resort to suicide using your own means.

 

[novem]

I suppose some people have so much money to spend on lawyers that they involve themselves in this adventure. I someone with money wants to ctb with N they can do it easily. Apparently i am not one of them so no i wouldn't do it.

 

[hush hush]

I suppose some people have so much money to spend on lawyers that they involve themselves in this adventure. I someone with money wants to ctb with N they can do it easily. Apparently i am not one of them so no i wouldn't do it.

It's difficult in the EU, bc the duty free excemption has been abolished and customs check every package to impose VAT on it. Dignitas, the assisted suicide organization in Switzerland, has run many lawsuits. The more you attack the current legal status, the more likely it is to get what you want.

 

[outrider567]

There are some publicly known people in my country who fight for their right to die. I searched for the one who I am thinking about. He is a right to die activist and he has a severe case of multiple sclerosis. He is quite often in news shows.

In my countrry assisted suicide is technically legal. But N is illegal. Many severely ill people go to court for their right to get it legally. I am not fully sure how I am feeling about it. On the one hand I really admire their strength. I think it is horrible that a death with dignity is so hard in our societies. But I ask myself if these people all do it for idealistic reasons. If you contact assisted suicide organizations they offer other lethal means as far as I know. Maybe it is too expensive for them but I rather doubt it. Maybe they want to make an ethical point. I would sympathize with that a lot. Maybe they want to use the most peaceful method.

However I honestly ask myself if these people just don't know any other peaceful methods. This is something I ask myself a lot. These people endure court fights which cost a lot of energy/time and probably a lot of money. I ask myself why these people torture themselves so hard. I can partly relate to it though. But I would feel a little bit humiliated to be honest if they deny me the right to die publicly. I had to out myself in front of the media and my chances in court would not be that good. All this fight just so that some bureaucrats can show me the middle finger.

I think fighting for the right to die is pretty important though. But I think I don't have the nerves for it. For dumb comments on the internet. For religious and ignorant people calling me insane or a sinner. Treating me like a child or non compos mentis.

If I could stay anonymous I might would go to court. I am just way too obsessed what other people think of me.

No--No court no nothing, CTB is an intensely personal decision for me

 

[novem]

It's difficult in the EU, bc the duty free excemption has been abolished and customs check every package to impose VAT on it. Dignitas, the assisted suicide organization in Switzerland, has run many lawsuits. The more you attack the current legal status, the more likely it is to get what you want.

Let them bring a christian priest who supports euthanasia to the court, it will help tremendously. Christianity is the primary source of poor judgement on this topic.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

If i could afford it, yes.

 

[hush hush]

If i could afford it, yes.

It is the most important decision in your life, if you get it, you will have secured a VIP ticket to the other side.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

What, do we have two states here in the US where assisted suicide is legal but only for those terminally ill? We're a long way here in the US from anything even remotely resembling what the European Court of Human Rights has found for the European countries. If I went to court here in the US for my right to die, I would be laughed out of court. It wouldn't even make it to court. It would be dismissed long before getting to any trial. And it would cost so much money, money I don't have, so the effort would be futile. Here, in my case, not terminally ill (at least at the time of writing this), I stand no chance of winning. So, no, I wouldn't. I've got other things to deal with so that I can take care of business myself. I don't need no stinking court to tell me I have a right which I already know I do.

 

[Weebster]

Sounds like a waste of money and energy. As if it would accomplish anything. The current way of things is set against our right to die. Check back in 20 years