Help Would someone keep me company as I attempt ctb?

[sivvie]

I feel like my time has come. I plan on doing it on the night of the 25th my time. I think I'll get really anxious, and I don't want to be alone as I do it.

I don't have an antiemetic, and will be using baking soda water as an antacid. Would anyone be alright with staying in a call with me as it happens? If it's too much to handle, I can stay muted and update on text.

Thank you for reading, I hope you can understand <3

 

[Rayzieka]

I hope you have a peaceful exit if you choose to leave <3
And I hope you find what you're looking for.

 

[timelag]

does skype works for you?

hope you gonna feel relief :P

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

I feel like my time has come. I plan on doing it on the night of the 25th my time. I think I'll get really anxious, and I don't want to be alone as I do it.

I don't have an antiemetic, and will be using baking soda water as an antacid. Would anyone be alright with staying in a call with me as it happens? If it's too much to handle, I can stay muted and update on text.

Thank you for reading, I hope you can understand <3

I'd be willing to. I feel the same way as you. I don't want to be alone. In fact, if you're willing to wait for me, we could go out together. Otherwise, I'm happy to be there for you.

 

[Niko66]

I hope you can find someone to give you the company you deserve through this. Best of luck whichever you decide to do.

 

[sivvie]

does skype works for you?

hope you gonna feel relief :P

I can make an account!

I'd be willing to. I feel the same way as you. I don't want to be alone. In fact, if you're willing to wait for me, we could go out together. Otherwise, I'm happy to be there for you.

When do you want to ctb? I'd be willing to do it together (depending on your method haha, nothing too gruesome)

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

I hope you can find someone, OP. I wish you a peaceful journey.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

I can make an account!

When do you want to ctb? I'd be willing to do it together (depending on your method haha, nothing too gruesome)

I can't do anything gruesome either. Don't worry. ^^' I'm personally even too scared to use SN because I have a tendency to panic and I have a low tolerance to pain. I'm planning to go in 2022. Ideally, in mid January when my parents are leaving to go on vacation together and I'll have enough time so that I'm not found for a few days. I just have to get the N shipped to me in time. I'm so happy I finally found a post of someone looking for company. For obvious reasons, my family can't support me in (or have knowledge of) my CTB, and I really don't want to be alone. I'm jealous of those people allowed to go to Switzerland to CTB peacefully with their families holding their hands and supporting them in their last moments. It would be really cool if we could be friends too or get to know each other better before we CTB if you're okay with that. I think it would make the whole thing a lot less scary for me though I've been preparing to face my fears from the first day I considered CTB. Feel free to send me a PM on here, and let me know if you use any chat apps or anything. We probably should use encrypted stuff though when we're off this site to protect ourselves. It's nice meeting you!

 

[timelag]

I can make an account!

When do you want to ctb? I'd be willing to do it together (depending on your method haha, nothing too gruesome)

just pm with your username, i've a lot of spare time so the day and the time doen't matter, i'll try to do my best to comfort you

 

[sadpinky]

I'll be on standby and open to joining your Skype

 

[LilBird]

I'm open to joining if needed too, always here for you

 

[sivvie]

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I can't do anything gruesome either. Don't worry. ^^' I'm personally even too scared to use SN because I have a tendency to panic and I have a low tolerance to pain. I'm planning to go in 2022. Ideally, in mid January when my parents are leaving to go on vacation together and I'll have enough time so that I'm not found for a few days. I just have to get the N shipped to me in time. I'm so happy I finally found a post of someone looking for company. For obvious reasons, my family can't support me in (or have knowledge of) my CTB, and I really don't want to be alone. I'm jealous of those people allowed to go to Switzerland to CTB peacefully with their families holding their hands and supporting them in their last moments. It would be really cool if we could be friends too or get to know each other better before we CTB if you're okay with that. I think it would make the whole thing a lot less scary for me though I've been preparing to face my fears from the first day I considered CTB. Feel free to send me a PM on here, and let me know if you use any chat apps or anything. We probably should use encrypted stuff though when we're off this site to protect ourselves. It's nice meeting you!

I don't think I can wait until then, I'm really sorry :( If I fail, I'll wait for you. I hope you find someone otherwise though, and I wish you a safe journey to peace; however you find it.

 

[sivvie]

I'll be on standby and open to joining your Skype

I'll make an account and pm you!

I'm open to joining if needed too, always here for you

I appreciate that a lot, I'll keep you all updated

 

[InezSerrano]

I can't do anything gruesome either. Don't worry. ^^' I'm personally even too scared to use SN because I have a tendency to panic and I have a low tolerance to pain. I'm planning to go in 2022. Ideally, in mid January when my parents are leaving to go on vacation together and I'll have enough time so that I'm not found for a few days. I just have to get the N shipped to me in time. I'm so happy I finally found a post of someone looking for company. For obvious reasons, my family can't support me in (or have knowledge of) my CTB, and I really don't want to be alone. I'm jealous of those people allowed to go to Switzerland to CTB peacefully with their families holding their hands and supporting them in their last moments. It would be really cool if we could be friends too or get to know each other better before we CTB if you're okay with that. I think it would make the whole thing a lot less scary for me though I've been preparing to face my fears from the first day I considered CTB. Feel free to send me a PM on here, and let me know if you use any chat apps or anything. We probably should use encrypted stuff though when we're off this site to protect ourselves. It's nice meeting you!

Can foreigners suicide in Switzerland?

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish you the best with your plans and I hope you find the peace you are looking for.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

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I don't think I can wait until then, I'm really sorry :( If I fail, I'll wait for you. I hope you find someone otherwise though, and I wish you a safe journey to peace; however you find it.

I'd still be happy to be there for you even if you need to go first. You're not alone!

 

[sivvie]

After some reconsideration, I might delay CTB because I don't feel ready to do it tonight, some SI and anxiety mixed with FOMO kicked in and I realize it's probably better to do it when my body isn't on high alert; so there's less of a chance that I fail.

Thank you to everyone who offered to be there with me, you're all such lovely people and I'll keep you updated on my decisions; whether I follow through with it tonight or not :) <3

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

After some reconsideration, I might delay CTB because I don't feel ready to do it tonight, some SI and anxiety mixed with FOMO kicked in and I realize it's probably better to do it when my body isn't on high alert; so there's less of a chance that I fail.

Thank you to everyone who offered to be there with me, you're all such lovely people and I'll keep you updated on my decisions; whether I follow through with it tonight or not :) <3

I'd agree that it's better to be in a calm and rational state of mind when you decide to go for it. The consequences of failing could be huge, so take your time. I think you'll know when you're ready.

 

[Onkyo74893]

Good decision sivvie.

 

[Ironweed]

This is getting into kind of a sketchy legal area, at least in the USA. I am not an attorney, but it seems to me anyone participating in something like this is opening themselves up to some kind of criminal charges as an accessory to murder. Maybe I'm overreacting, if there's any attorneys on this site it would be good to get their opinion.

It would probably also be a really bad look for this site, if anyone cares about that sort of thing at this point. I don't see this as encouraging somebody to end their life, but our friends in the media would definitely spin it that way.

This is personally not something I'd ever do, but to each their own. Definitely mask your IP if you do nothing else.

 

[Julgran]

This is getting into kind of a sketchy legal area, at least in the USA. I am not an attorney, but it seems to me anyone participating in something like this is opening themselves up to some kind of criminal charges as an accessory to murder. Maybe I'm overreacting, if there's any attorneys on this site it would be good to get their opinion.

It would probably also be a really bad look for this site, if anyone cares about that sort of thing at this point. I don't see this as encouraging somebody to end their life, but our friends in the media would definitely spin it that way.

This is personally not something I'd ever do, but to each their own. Definitely mask your IP if you do nothing else.

Your sentiments are valid, but no one know will ever know the identity of those who decide to sit by someone who will end their life.

On the other hand, I don't agree that sitting by someone who has decided to end their life, is a negative thing - rather, it shows compassion and care that the rest of the world never even thought to provide.

From the impression that I get from reading other people's stories, it's as if "normal" people brush suicidal people off with a comment like "Whatever! Just kill yourself already!" or "It's your own problem. Don't bother me!".

 

[Toonloon]

This is getting into kind of a sketchy legal area, at least in the USA. I am not an attorney, but it seems to me anyone participating in something like this is opening themselves up to some kind of criminal charges as an accessory to murder. Maybe I'm overreacting, if there's any attorneys on this site it would be good to get their opinion.

It would probably also be a really bad look for this site, if anyone cares about that sort of thing at this point. I don't see this as encouraging somebody to end their life, but our friends in the media would definitely spin it that way.

This is personally not something I'd ever do, but to each their own. Definitely mask your IP if you do nothing else.

It's a type of manslaughter in many states in US if you do a planned double suicide pact but only ONE goes through with the plan. And ONLY if it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt the person who pulled out of the pact was NEVER going to go through with it. But only said they would to get the other person to do it. In many states there are laws against strongly encouraging the suicidal person to complete the act after they say"I think I want help" or "I don't think I want to continue". That's why that one girl went to prison in Pennsylvania I believe the state was she encouraged and harassed her bf to continue his suicide even after he said numerous times "I have doubt".
But she was sentence to a short prison term because it was a lesser charge of manslaughter via intimidation and not seeking help for the boy.

Not saying it's any less fucked up just pointing out the fake double suicide pact will send ur ass away for much longer.

I only know this because I had to take a basic law class for my degree.

As for being a voyher of a suicide. That is some charges in itself. For content violations among the fcc for some reason if they want to push it and some states charge it as a possible manslaughter. But it's an extremely hard case to prove because the argument is "I didn't know it was real". Has protected people before when charged.

Some prosecutors have tried pushing it under viewing kiddie porn. Distributing snuff content and or actual sexual assaults among internet users. Citing the act of viewing and or distribution violates some kind of decency internet law or something.

But have been shot down.

This is getting into kind of a sketchy legal area, at least in the USA. I am not an attorney, but it seems to me anyone participating in something like this is opening themselves up to some kind of criminal charges as an accessory to murder. Maybe I'm overreacting, if there's any attorneys on this site it would be good to get their opinion.

It would probably also be a really bad look for this site, if anyone cares about that sort of thing at this point. I don't see this as encouraging somebody to end their life, but our friends in the media would definitely spin it that way.

This is personally not something I'd ever do, but to each their own. Definitely mask your IP if you do nothing else.

And to add you can be tracked eventually if someone wants to find you regardless if you mask an ip address.

Even if you are stealing wifi from your neighbor or using their shit to cover your ass. People can find the original source and figure out where everything originated from. Idk the details but I know alot of hackers. They explained and showed me that fact.

Also by trying to conceal yourself makes you look bad. Say someone wants to take the case to court and they say " so and so didn't want to help comfort J. Doe in their last minute on earth. They just wanted to get off on some sexual suicide kick or feel powerful playing God by encouraging them to die This opinion is coming from the fact that they tried to conceal their identity by masking their IP address and scrambling such and such."

We can all honestly say here that's bullshit for atleast 98% of us here.

I leave 2% because I'm not naive but kind. I know there are some freaks on here who do have a death/suicide fetish.

But it can open the grounds for doubt by concealing your ID.

Yes we all want anonymity for this particular decision. But we all also are aware of how people always want to twist things. So I'm just tossing my unsolicited two cents in.

Now please destroy and bitch at me.

 

[Ironweed]

Your sentiments are valid, but no one know will ever know the identity of those who decide to sit by someone who will end their life.

On the other hand, I don't agree that sitting by someone who has decided to end their life, is a negative thing - rather, it shows compassion and care that the rest of the world never even thought to provide.

From the impression that I get from reading other people's stories, it's as if "normal" people brush suicidal people off with a comment like "Whatever! Just kill yourself already!" or "It's your own problem. Don't bother me!".

I was going by OP getting a call on Skype or some similar service, and the party calling in literally watching OP die. You're going to leave virtual footprints all over the place, and my concern was I'm not sure what the law is in a case like this. The person calling in did not instruct OP on how to die, did not encourage OP to die, simply would sit with them as they die. Might even be completely legal, though how you prove/disprove no "encouragement" was offered, I'm not quite sure as well.

It's a type of manslaughter in many states in US if you do a planned double suicide pact but only ONE goes through with the plan. And ONLY if it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt the person who pulled out of the pact was NEVER going to go through with it. But only said they would to get the other person to do it. In many states there are laws against strongly encouraging the suicidal person to complete the act after they say"I think I want help" or "I don't think I want to continue". That's why that one girl went to prison in Pennsylvania I believe the state was she encouraged and harassed her bf to continue his suicide even after he said numerous times "I have doubt".
But she was sentence to a short prison term because it was a lesser charge of manslaughter via intimidation and not seeking help for the boy.

Not saying it's any less fucked up just pointing out the fake double suicide pact will send ur ass away for much longer.

I only know this because I had to take a basic law class for my degree.

As for being a voyher of a suicide. That is some charges in itself. For content violations among the fcc for some reason if they want to push it and some states charge it as a possible manslaughter. But it's an extremely hard case to prove because the argument is "I didn't know it was real". Has protected people before when charged.

Some prosecutors have tried pushing it under viewing kiddie porn. Distributing snuff content and or actual sexual assaults among internet users. Citing the act of viewing and or distribution violates some kind of decency internet law or something.

But have been shot down.

And to add you can be tracked eventually if someone wants to find you regardless if you mask an ip address.

Even if you are stealing wifi from your neighbor or using their shit to cover your ass. People can find the original source and figure out where everything originated from. Idk the details but I know alot of hackers. They explained and showed me that fact.

Also by trying to conceal yourself makes you look bad. Say someone wants to take the case to court and they say " so and so didn't want to help comfort J. Doe in their last minute on earth. They just wanted to get off on some sexual suicide kick or feel powerful playing God by encouraging them to die This opinion is coming from the fact that they tried to conceal their identity by masking their IP address and scrambling such and such."

We can all honestly say here that's bullshit for atleast 98% of us here.

I leave 2% because I'm not naive but kind. I know there are some freaks on here who do have a death/suicide fetish.

But it can open the grounds for doubt by concealing your ID.

Yes we all want anonymity for this particular decision. But we all also are aware of how people always want to twist things. So I'm just tossing my unsolicited two cents in.

Now please destroy and bitch at me.

So it sounds like what you're saying is there's a risk of prosecution for someone filling OP's request, but the risk is relatively low

Your point about using a VPN to mask your IP as evidence of something shady, or at any rate as pointing to something suspicious, didn't even occur to me, but that is an excellent point.

 

[Julgran]

I was going by OP getting a call on Skype or some similar service, and the party calling in literally watching OP die. You're going to leave virtual footprints all over the place, and my concern was I'm not sure what the law is in a case like this. The person calling in did not instruct OP on how to die, did not encourage OP to die, simply would sit with them as they die. Might even be completely legal, though how you prove/disprove no "encouragement" was offered, I'm not quite sure as well.

So it sounds like what you're saying is there's a risk of prosecution for someone filling OP's request, but the risk is relatively low

Your point about using a VPN to mask your IP as evidence of something shady, or at any rate as pointing to something suspicious, didn't even occur to me, but that is an excellent point.

I see, but Skype doesn't necessarily provide anyone with personal details - at least not how it worked many years ago - it could be different now.

Regarding VPN services - they are not quite so suspicious, since companies use them all the time, and people who live in oppressive countries use them to circumvent their regimes. It's simply not a household item that everyone is using daily.

From a legal perspective, I believe you do have a point, but I don't see how anything concrete can be levied against someone who is keeping someone company in this way, but it could also be that I haven't thought this point through fully.

 

[Toonloon]

I was going by OP getting a call on Skype or some similar service, and the party calling in literally watching OP die. You're going to leave virtual footprints all over the place, and my concern was I'm not sure what the law is in a case like this. The person calling in did not instruct OP on how to die, did not encourage OP to die, simply would sit with them as they die. Might even be completely legal, though how you prove/disprove no "encouragement" was offered, I'm not quite sure as well.

So it sounds like what you're saying is there's a risk of prosecution for someone filling OP's request, but the risk is relatively low

Your point about using a VPN to mask your IP as evidence of something shady, or at any rate as pointing to something suspicious, didn't even occur to me, but that is an excellent point.

Yes and no. The ultimate risk all depends on the laws in their country of origin. In the US it's manslaughter if the person backs out of a planned double suicide because they never planned on going through with it period. Or if they make op go through with it after they said they don't want to after all.

To keep company as a friend your good.

You may however get hit with a civil lawsuit.

My real personal issue about Skype and phone calls with random ppl you just met is the possibility of them being a death fetishist.

I have been a kink specialist escort for almost a decade. I have seen lotta shit. Snuff films being one. And I have been asked to find some sick shit. One being a suicidal person or a terminally ill person they could watch die in front of the persons.

I never did that but because of those request I know they exists. I know they stalk sites like this one and prey on vulnerable people.

In my opinion I suggest build a relationship and trust with someone.
I know some people think they don't care in the end if a pervert is getting off watching you die. But trust me when it happens you may feel different.

I see, but Skype doesn't necessarily provide anyone with personal details - at least not how it worked many years ago - it could be different now.

Regarding VPN services - they are not quite so suspicious, since companies use them all the time, and people who live in oppressive countries use them to circumvent their regimes. It's simply not a household item that everyone is using daily.

From a legal perspective, I believe you do have a point, but I don't see how anything concrete can be levied against someone who is keeping someone company in this way, but it could also be that I haven't thought this point through fully.

Cases like this don't run on concrete evidence. They run off emotions. And that's enough to fuck up your life even if you are not found guilty.

 

[Julgran]

Yes and no. The ultimate risk all depends on the laws in their country of origin. In the US it's manslaughter if the person backs out of a planned double suicide because they never planned on going through with it period. Or if they make op go through with it after they said they don't want to after all.

To keep company as a friend your good.

You may however get hit with a civil lawsuit.

My real personal issue about Skype and phone calls with random ppl you just met is the possibility of them being a death fetishist.

I have been a kink specialist escort for almost a decade. I have seen lotta shit. Snuff films being one. And I have been asked to find some sick shit. One being a suicidal person or a terminally ill person they could watch die in front of the persons.

I never did that but because of those request I know they exists. I know they stalk sites like this one and prey on vulnerable people.

In my opinion I suggest build a relationship and trust with someone.
I know some people think they don't care in the end if a pervert is getting off watching you die. But trust me when it happens you may feel different.

Cases like this don't run on concrete evidence. They run off emotions. And that's enough to fuck up your life even if you are not found guilty.

The thing about the technological side of things is that I'm reminded how the media has portrayed so-called "virtal machines" before.

In case you are not aware of what a "virtual machine" is, let's start without your own computer, if you have one. You boot up your computer and see an operating system, which usually is Windows or Mac OS. Those operating systems, among others, can be emulated, which means that you can boot up your computer and then launch a program on the same computer, which, in turn, allows you to boot up an additional operating system in a window on your computer, as if it was a normal program like Word. The media has sounded the alarm of the use of such "virtual machines", because, according to them, only hackers and other ill-intended individuals use "virtual machines", which isn't true.

My point is only that people who don't know technology - such as the authorities - may demonise technology - and people who have never used technology may simply believe any nonsense that the authorities may put out there, just to prevent people from doing what they feel is best for them. From this point of view, anyone can accuse you of being a terrorist for simply using Skype, or whatever program you want to use, just because their motives conflict with yours.

I like your point, though - it's true.

 

[Toonloon]

The thing about the technological side of things is that I'm reminded how the media has portrayed so-called "virtal machines" before.

In case you are not aware of what a "virtual machine" is, let's start without your own computer, if you have one. You boot up your computer and see an operating system, which usually is Windows or Mac OS. Those operating systems, among others, can be emulated, which means that you can boot up your computer and then launch a program on the same computer, which, in turn, allows you to boot up an additional operating sysem in a windows on your computer, as if it was a normal program like Word. The media has sounded the alarm of the use of such "virtual machines", because, according to them, only hackers and other ill-intended individuals use "virtual machines", which isn't true.

My point is only that people who don't know technology - such as the authorities - may demonise technology - and people who have never used technology may simply believe any nonsense that the authorities may put out there, just to prevent people from doing what them feel is best for them.

Im only speaking as a person who has known numerous people get busted for shit because what they did using their IP address. I'm not getting in a pissing contest about tech. I'm just sharing my experience. My jackass associate got busted for selling content of herself posing nude with dead bodies in a morgue. And uploaded a vid of her client ODing. She thought she couldn't get caught cause she would bounce her IP address off other places. But they busted her and she went to prison.

So idc what you say. I have seen first hand it is possible. In the US if they want you bad enough.

And she did the morgue thing for years uploading and selling via the dark web.

The ODing client is what pushed it.

In the past she did other horrible shit.

 

[Judah]

Thank you for reading, I hope you can understand <3

Count on me, I'll keep you company, just that my English is a bit bad

 

[Julgran]

Im only speaking as a person who has known numerous people get busted for shit because what they did using their IP address. I'm not getting in a pissing contest about tech. I'm just sharing my experience. My jackass associate got busted for selling content of herself posing nude with dead bodies in a morgue. And uploaded a vid of her client ODing. She thought she couldn't get caught cause she would bounce her IP address off other places. But they busted her and she went to prison.

So idc what you say. I have seen first hand it is possible. In the US if they want you bad enough.

And she did the morgue thing for years uploading and selling via the dark web.

The ODing client is what pushed it.

In the past she did other horrible shit.

I completely agree with you - I just thought that I should point out that the authorities could use any excuse at all to silence dissent, which, in this case, is the free will to end one's life - even though said excuse is completely invalid from a moral perspective.