Method New method with potassium chloride, accessible to all of us, details here

[locked*n*loaded]

I never said it was tested, but 22g of potassium chloride in one minute kills for sure, it stops the heart right away and you can find medical research about that, it's supposed to be infused less than 1g per hour otherwise it kills in hospital.
Why are you talking about SN? I never brought SN here and I don't recommend it at all since it's unpredictable and can have delayed reaction up to 7 days. I am offering a fast solution here, not SN..

Where EXACTLY in my post did I mention one thing about SN?????? You're very confused evidently.

And I'm not making claims that KCL can kill, or can't kill. It may well be a very effective method for people, sans the having to use and IV to administer it. I'm only saying that without proof positive, it's merely anecdotal as to whether it actually works.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Exactly, who was this method tested on to verify it actually works? Obviously, it wasn't you. It seems like it is only a method on paper, thus far.

KCl is one of the injections in US executions. Afaik death by KCl alone is painful and unpleasant if one isn't unconscious.

I could never IV inject anything myself and I think a lot of others can't either.

 

[UnderTheSun]

Thanks a lot everybody for your wishes it

Where EXACTLY in my post did I mention one thing about SN?????? You're very confused evidently.

And I'm not making claims that KCL can kill, or can't kill. It may well be a very effective method for people, sans the having to use and IV to administer it. I'm only saying that without proof positive, it's merely anecdotal as to whether it actually works.there is ton of medical research a bout it

KCl is one of the injections in US executions. Afaik death by KCl alone is painful and unpleasant if one isn't unconscious.

I could never IV inject anything myself and I think a lot of others can't either.

If you buffer the solution it's much less painful, it's a Ph issue.

Where EXACTLY in my post did I mention one thing about SN?????? You're very confused evidently.

And I'm not making claims that KCL can kill, or can't kill. It may well be a very effective method for people, sans the having to use and IV to administer it. I'm only saying that without proof positive, it's merely anecdotal as to whether it actually works.

You type "potassium chloride overdose suicide" and you have tons of medical research paper, not only that you also have plenty of pages that explain that any fast injection (even at right dosage) kills in hospital.
Do your research.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Thanks a lot everybody for your wishes it



If you buffer the solution it's much less painful, it's a Ph issue.

You type "potassium chloride overdose suicide" and you have tons of medical research paper, not only that you also have plenty of pages that explain that any fast injection (even at right dosage) kills in hospital.
Do your research.

I asked you where in the posting of mine that you referenced did I mention SN???????

Even if it would work, your method is unrealistic for the VAST majority of people, anyway. Still, to be considered valid, documented, real, tangible results would need to be shown, and I have, absolutely, no idea how you could accomplish that, unless you became the next Dr. Kevorkian, or tested it out on yourself. As it stands now, it's no different than a recipe on paper that has never, actually, been tried in a kitchen.

KCl is one of the injections in US executions. Afaik death by KCl alone is painful and unpleasant if one isn't unconscious.

I could never IV inject anything myself and I think a lot of others can't either.

I know that. In executions, there's a little more to it than just KCl.

 

[UnderTheSun]

I asked you where in the posting of mine that you referenced did I mention SN???????

Even if it would work, your method is unrealistic for the VAST majority of people, anyway. Still, to be considered valid, documented, real, tangible results would need to be shown, and I have, absolutely, no idea how you could accomplish that, unless you became the next Dr. Kevorkian, or tested it out on yourself. As it stands now, it's no different than a recipe on paper that has never, actually, been tried in a kitchen.

I know that. In executions, there's a little more to it than just KCl.

I don't know where you got your education but this is chemistry 101 here, basically you can just dissolve the potassium in water and inject it as long as it's well dissolved but the pain is excruciating as it's all in and potassium draws water out of the veins very fast so it's an irritant. Anybody can do that but my solution offers a way to buffer the PH and osmosis of the injection so it's not that painful and we can push it to the end.

And in lethal injections there is a first injection that is usually sodium thiopentone to put in a coma, then a muscle paralysis medication to stop breathing and then potassium injection to stop the heart.
Potassium on its own stops the heart so it does the job on its own, the other medication are there to induce coma. (And even alive in a coma we are given muscle paralysis meds).

 

[Themogger]

I saw this method used in a show. The magicians, season 2 episode 3. They used it in a roundabout way to kill someone but revive them seconds later. When I researched the chemical used, it was kcl. I'm curious if there is a way to numb the arm before injection since some of us are scared of needles. And thanks to you, this method could get more traction to scrutinized more and become more effective in time

 

[UnderTheSun]

I saw this method used in a show. The magicians, season 2 episode 3. They used it in a roundabout way to kill someone but revive them seconds later. When I researched the chemical used, it was kcl. I'm curious if there is a way to numb the arm before injection since some of us are scared of needles. And thanks to you, this method could get more traction to scrutinized more and become more effective in time

Yes with an aggressive infusion of calcium and other resuscitation measures you can be saved. You can't numb your arm, you can put some lidocaine cream but it won't numb your vein, only the superficial layers of your skin.

 

[Themogger]

Hey, you still there? You mentioned wanting to try this out today

 

[Sunset Limited]

I'm sorry but it's a terrible idea. The pain caused by KCL is not just related to pH. It's about the interaction of salt and cells. It structurally disrupts cells and activates kinin structures that send the pain signal. Especially with a solution containing high amounts of KCL! Instead of trying to balance the pH, a much better solution would be to mix it with lidocaine, which you can easily buy in powder form. You can also benefit from the strong negative inotropic effect of lidocaine. But I have bad news for you. Even lidocaine can't do anything for the pain that KCL causes.

In veterinary medicine, KCL is never used without an agent that produces sedation at surgical depth. The problem with KCL isn't just the pain. KCL does not offer a peaceful cardiac arrest. Before that, you will have arrhythmia.

If it were possible to use KCL for euthanasia in this way, veterinarians would do it. Nobody uses KCL anymore.

Let me give you a much better option than KCL. Calcium channel blockers. Diltiazem is especially advantageous as it comes in powder form for injection. The pain of injection cannot even be compared to KCL. Their effects on the CNS are limited compared to beta blockers, the risk of convulsions is much less. Still, I would never do something like this without a sedative.

 

[UnderTheSun]

Hey, you still there? You mentioned wanting to try this out today

Hey yes, I am waiting on supplies for IV administration it should come tomorrow. So I should do it tomorrow evening

I'm sorry but it's a terrible idea. The pain caused by KCL is not just related to pH. It's about the interaction of salt and cells. It structurally disrupts cells and activates kinin structures that send the pain signal. Especially with a solution containing high amounts of KCL! Instead of trying to balance the pH, a much better solution would be to mix it with lidocaine, which you can easily buy in powder form. You can also benefit from the strong negative inotropic effect of lidocaine. But I have bad news for you. Even lidocaine can't do anything for the pain that KCL causes.

In veterinary medicine, KCL is never used without an agent that produces sedation at surgical depth. The problem with KCL isn't just the pain. KCL does not offer a peaceful cardiac arrest. Before that, you will have arrhythmia.

If it were possible to use KCL for euthanasia in this way, veterinarians would do it. Nobody uses KCL anymore.

Let me give you a much better option than KCL. Calcium channel blockers. Diltiazem is especially advantageous as it comes in powder form for injection. The pain of injection cannot even be compared to KCL. Their effects on the CNS are limited compared to beta blockers, the risk of convulsions is much less. Still, I would never do something like this without a sedative.

I agree with you but when the PH is buffered the pain is tolerable as opposed to excruciating. My vet used KCL on my cat and it worked within seconds.
It's hard to buy Lidocaine in the UK...

 

[Sunset Limited]

Hey yes, I am waiting on supplies for IV administration it should come tomorrow. So I should do it tomorrow evening

I agree with you but when the PH is buffered the pain is tolerable as opposed to excruciating. My vet used KCL on my cat and it worked within seconds.
It's hard to buy Lidocaine in the UK...

Did the vet only use kcl? I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Every veterinarian has a strong sedative in his storage. No vet would inject KCL before a strong sedative. Because you already have it. Why don't you use it? Before KCl injection, a strong sedative such as propofol ketamine is used. Even veterinarians in 3 .world countries do not inject KCL alone. The key component of the drug euthanasia procedure is a powerful sedative.

Mixing kcl with anything will not reduce or eliminate the pain. Will kcl kill you? Yes. Is it within euthanasia standards? No! If your vet injected KCL without using any sedatives he should lose his license.

 

[rainwillneverstop]

I just want to remind everyone to be cautious with new methods, and to do your own research as well.

 

[Balloon ANIMAL🎈🪅]

For hours tonight I have worked out a plan with chemists and research, I will use it tomorrow.

Potassium Chloride (KCI) is available in most countries, it's important to take the food grade powder one, 100% purity.
Then some bicarbonate soda is necessary like Dr Oetker one for baking, now it's important to differentiate because sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate are different.

Dissolving the powders in water:

Potassium Chloride KCI solubility in water is 34g/100ml, meaning 1g of KCI must be dissolved in 2.95ml of water or saline solution 0.9 NaCL. It takes 10-20 mins to dissolve without stirring.

Sodium bicarbonate solubility in water is 9.6g per 100ml of water, 1g of it dissolves in 10.41ml of water. It takes 10-15 minutes to dissolve without stirring.

Sodium carbonate (E500) solubility is 35g per 100ml of water so 1g must be dissolved in 2.85ml of water and it takes 20 minutez without stirring.

You can not dissolve those powder products in less water than they need. The concentration will be wrong and it puts you at risk of failure and severe damages.

Steps here according to 22g of KCI which is lethal when injected by intravenous cannula fastly:

1. Mix 22g of KCI (potassium powder) into 65ml of room temperature water and let it rest for 25-30 to fully dissolve without stirring. It must be a liquid with no powder left or visible.

2. Get some PH test paper on Amazon as you will now need to buffer (make less acidic) the potassium solution otheexise it hurts like hell.
Test the solution and use the PH color chart to determine the PH (Google images).

3. If you are using sodium carbonate like the Dr Oetker bicarbonate soda, you need to add very slowly up to 130mg of it into the solution, but do it very slowly and test a lot every time until you reach a Ph between 7 and 7.5 according to color chart.
Between each addition you need to stir a lot to dissolve it fast and may have to wait 5-10 minutes otherwise your PH result will be false.

If you are using sodium bicarbonate (look at the ingredients in the product you have and search it online to make sure), then put a minimum of 5.46mg of it into the solution and wait 10 mins for dissolution, test the Ph and add more very slowly if needed for the same target as above. The max you can add is 10.92mg of it.

4. Your solution is now ready, it should not hurt your veins as you buffered the solution PH, wait further 10 minutes to make sure it's all well dissolved and stir it before putting in a syringe (possible a 70ml syringe, with luer lock).

5. Insert a cannula in the biggest vein you can find in your arm, not your hand, learn vigorusly to do it on YouTube, you can buy them online with a Google search, I advise to take size 18g for fast flow, nothing smaller than 20g, anything below 18g will be very hard to put in a vein. Secure the cannula with strong dressings and flush it with saline solution (you can buy, it's called saline solution pods on Amazon), if it flushes well the cannula is in your vein and you are good to go, if it hurts and swells the cannula is not in a vein so do it again.

6. Shake the solution again in the syringe, lie down, and connect the syringe to the cannula, and you can inject it the faster possible but at a constant rate to ensure you don't break your vein. You heart shall stop within seconds, so it's important to be fast but consistent.

Potassium KCI stops the heart within seconds or minutes, and is only that lethal when injected into a vein, orally it's impossible to drink and requires a huge dose. It can be painful to inject but as it's buffered it's tolerable.

You can buy tourniquets, cannula, dressings, syringes on some websites you can find on Google (Google shopping for example) and saline pods you can find them on Amazon usually for eye irrigation or baby care.
Better make the solution in plastic glasses.

I hope this hel

I just want to remind everyone to be cautious with new methods, and to do your own research as well.

Hey I'm just wondering if you're still waiting on supplies? If so will you please let us know right before you do it? I want to know that it worked for you. Anyways thanks for the info good luck & safe travels!.

 

[rainwillneverstop]

Hey I'm just wondering if you're still waiting on supplies? If so will you please let us know right before you do it? I want to know that it worked for you. Anyways thanks for the info good luck & safe travels!.

Not sure why you quoted me.
I'm not going with this method.

 

[dogemn]

I don't think I could inject myself. If I could, I'd probably just use F or H from the dark net.

As an IV heroin addict, my first time trying to inject was extremely scary even though I was never really scared of needles. Injecting something in your veins by yourself for the first time can be scary, but only the very first time in my experience.

 

[Balloon ANIMAL🎈🪅]

Not sure why you quoted me.
I'm not going with this method.

How embarrassing, lol
I'm new. I was just trying to to reply to the main thread or whatever it's called.
If you have a sec do you think you can tell me how to post my own stuff? I can't figure it out

 

[Anhaedra]

Cant this method be made into a drink like SN? Not everyone knows how to use a cannula.

 

[Wish2Exit]

As opposed to SN, potassium is pretty fast, SN can have a delayed reaction for up to 7 days and it's a horrible long death in some case as it causes the blood to be deprived of oxygen.
Not all potassium do this effect hence why it's important to respect the steps and have the right products.

Where did you read, hear, or see that SN (sodium nitrite) can have a 7-day delayed reaction? just wondering, because I have not read that at all, and instead it takes effect within 40 minutes, according to the online resources I have read. Since you know this about SN, do you know if PN (potassium nitrite) is more reliable and faster-acting? I have both of these substances and don't want something to go wrong obviously.

 

[UnderTheSun]

Where did you read, hear, or see that SN (sodium nitrite) can have a 7-day delayed reaction? just wondering, because I have not read that at all, and instead it takes effect within 40 minutes, according to the online resources I have read. Since you know this about SN, do you know if PN (potassium nitrite) is more reliable and faster-acting? I have both of these substances and don't want something to go wrong obviously.

Meeical research Google is your friend, type sodium nitrite delayed reaction and you will find

Cant this method be made into a drink like SN? Not everyone knows how to use a cannula.

No, potassium is so hard tod rink you need load and you will vomit

Hey I'm just wondering if you're still waiting on supplies? If so will you please let us know right before you do it? I want to know that it worked for you. Anyways thanks for the info good luck & safe travels!.

Hey, I am about to do it in an hour, I have gotten everything

 

[Themogger]

Meeical research Google is your friend, type sodium nitrite delayed reaction and you will find

No, potassium is so hard tod rink you need load and you will vomit

Hey, I am about to do it in an hour, I have gotten everything

Aren't you gonna make a goodbye thread or something?

 

[UnderTheSun]

Aren't you gonna make a goodbye thread or something?

I will post a message when I am about to start the injections but that's it really

 

[cursedbynature64]

As an IV heroin addict, my first time trying to inject was extremely scary even though I was never really scared of needles. Injecting something in your veins by yourself for the first time can be scary, but only the very first time in my experience.

Thing is, it would be the first and last time if it was to go according to plans

 

[UnderTheSun]

Aren't you gonna make a goodbye thread or something?

I am about to start it, I just need to transfer vials and infusion into the bottles and connect it to my cannula and I'm good. If I have not posted anything here for some time then you can assume it has worked.
Otherwise I will post something as soon as I can.

I wish everybody to have their exit as they wish and in the time they wish. Goodbye everybody.

 

[Themogger]

I am about to start it, I just need to transfer vials and infusion into the bottles and connect it to my cannula and I'm good. If I have not posted anything here for some time then you can assume it has worked.
Otherwise I will post something as soon as I can.

I wish everybody to have their exit as they wish and in the time they wish. Goodbye everybody.

Goodbye

 

[escape_from_hell]

I wish it was was peaceful whatever happened.

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I would not recommend injecting yourself with potassium chloride as a CTB method. Obviously, I can't stop anyone from trying it, but the chances of things going wrong are unacceptably high and the method is not peaceful by any means. For people with no previous training, it would be difficult to start an IV properly. That can cause the potassium chloride to extravasate into surrounding tissues, potentially leading to necrosis. Assuming that you start the IV properly, there is nothing you can really use to numb your arm before you inject yourself, as someone else previously said. A diluted potassium chloride IV already burns really badly and you can feel it like liquid fire going up from the arm into the chest. In order to not feel the injection, you would probably have to get yourself so high/drunk that you can't even inject yourself properly.

I've had IV potassium to correct electrolyte imbalances in the past, and I also have a valid EMT license. So I know first-hand how much it hurts to get an IV with diluted potassium chloride, and I'm also not making up medical facts.

 

[Themogger]

I would not recommend injecting yourself with potassium chloride as a CTB method. Obviously, I can't stop anyone from trying it, but the chances of things going wrong are unacceptably high and the method is not peaceful by any means. For people with no previous training, it would be difficult to start an IV properly. That can cause the potassium chloride to extravasate into surrounding tissues, potentially leading to necrosis. Assuming that you start the IV properly, there is nothing you can really use to numb your arm before you inject yourself, as someone else previously said. A diluted potassium chloride IV already burns really badly and you can feel it like liquid fire going up from the arm into the chest. In order to not feel the injection, you would probably have to get yourself so high/drunk that you can't even inject yourself properly.

I've had IV potassium to correct electrolyte imbalances in the past, and I also have a valid EMT license. So I know first-hand how much it hurts to get an IV with diluted potassium chloride, and I'm also not making up medical facts.

Probably too late for OP now

 

[Lady Laudanum]

Probably too late for OP now

I was saying it as a general statement. I mean that I don't recommend following what OP did. Quit busting my balls haha

 

[snowbird]

I hope your journey was quick and painless and that you're at peace now.

 

[butterflyguy]

I don't think I could inject myself. If I could, I'd probably just use F or H from the dark net.

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