ggetout33

ggetout33

Just stuck here.
Mar 3, 2023
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My friend, who I've known for a few years, is a transgender woman who has been diagnosed with an incurable neurological disease that has destroyed her body. She was given a life expectancy of a few years.

I've always felt since I signed up that a person should get help wherever they can. And that help should be accessible and affordable.

But if their situation is truly hopeless as they spend every day in constant pain, then they should be entitled to a peaceful way out. They shouldn't have to lose their dignity or autonomy just because some extremist pro-life whackjob thinks life is worth living even if you're doomed to suffer throughout whatever life you have.

And she has mentioned flat out that she was thinking about joining a suicide club. I was thinking about linking this forum. But I'm not sure how (or if) I should go about it.

I do care about this person, as I've known her for years. It'll be sad to see her go if she were to CTB. But at the same time I also feel that if you truly love someone who is suffering then you show that love by alleviating said suffering.

Medically assisted death is illegal where they live. No surprise there.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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No. And that just sounds like such a horrible situation, it's inhumane how this society is so incredibly anti-suicide, humans deserve the option of a way to permanently escape from all suffering, to me this world truly is so hellish.
 
MrDarkness

MrDarkness

Left sasu, to improve my life
Jun 18, 2023
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No you wouldn't be arrested cause your not encouraging anything, as for morals it's on the border of good intent, but also bad, see this site has made me wanna ctb more, cause I know how easier it is, now the person you know is truly in pain and they deserve a peaceful way to die. So I'd say on a moral scale from 1 to 10 lowest being bad higher being good 7/10
 
ggetout33

ggetout33

Just stuck here.
Mar 3, 2023
177
No you wouldn't be arrested cause your not encouraging anything, as for morals it's on the border of good intent, but also bad, see this site has made me wanna ctb more, cause I know how easier it is, now the person you know is truly in pain and they deserve a peaceful way to die. So I'd say on a moral scale from 1 to 10 lowest being bad higher being good 7/10

Well my intention is purely to stop my friend from suffering in any way I can. She has told me her condition is straight up incurable and she only has a few years left anyways, though I imagine those few years wouldn't be pleasant.

There's really no use talking her out of it since she's doomed to suffer a slow and painful death no matter which way you slice it. And I fear if I don't do anything then she might find some other site that might not have her best interests here.

If I may be honest, I don't want her to die but I also don't want her to suffer either. And if she is doomed to suffer if she lives in this cruel world shackled to a body that betrayed her, then the humane thing to do would be to give her a peaceful exit.


No. And that just sounds like such a horrible situation, it's inhumane how this society is so incredibly anti-suicide, humans deserve the option of a way to permanently escape from all suffering, to me this world truly is so hellish.

I agree with you there. Living actually hasn't been that bad since I started medication and getting the help I need. But I know not everyone is so lucky to get that. And those that aren't lucky shouldn't suffer because of that. To me that's more cruel than murder.
 
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MrDarkness

Left sasu, to improve my life
Jun 18, 2023
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Well my intention is purely to stop my friend from suffering in any way I can. She has told me her condition is straight up incurable and she only has a few years left anyways, though I imagine those few years wouldn't be pleasant.

There's really no use talking her out of it since she's doomed to suffer a slow and painful death no matter which way you slice it. And I fear if I don't do anything then she might find some other site that might not have her best interests here.

If I may be honest, I don't want her to die but I also don't want her to suffer either. And if she is doomed to suffer if she lives in this cruel world shackled to a body that betrayed her, then the humane thing to do would be to give her a peaceful exit.




I agree with you there. Living actually hasn't been that bad since I started medication and getting the help I need. But I know not everyone is so lucky to get that. And those that aren't lucky shouldn't suffer because of that. To me that's more cruel than murder.
Ik it's a double edge sword, it's how life is, I hope they are able to find peace, as for you
 
NoLoveNoHope

NoLoveNoHope

Mage
Mar 25, 2023
566
I highly doubt you'd get arrested but I can't be 100% because I don't know where you live. For sharing this forum personally I would, if she doesn't want to be apart of it it's her choice and if she does that's great.

I think the best way to go about it would be in a neutral way, just mention what the forum is about and only mention factual information.
 
ggetout33

ggetout33

Just stuck here.
Mar 3, 2023
177
I highly doubt you'd get arrested but I can't be 100% because I don't know where you live. For sharing this forum personally I would, if she doesn't want to be apart of it it's her choice and if she does that's great.

I think the best way to go about it would be in a neutral way, just mention what the forum is about and only mention factual information.

USA
 
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just_so_done

Experienced
Apr 16, 2023
258
Like nolovenohope, i doubt youd get arrested for introducing them to a website but dont know where you live. this site is about sharing information, its not encouraging ctb or helping someone physically do it. so you're literally providing your friend a resource like any other support group or website that provides info. how they choose to use that info is up to them. maybe dont share your username tho so you can still use the site and have privacy. sorry your friend is struggling, i hope you both find peace
 
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Ernest1964

Specialist
Jan 6, 2023
363
I believe that the ultimate demonstration of care and love is to provide yourself and the other person the highest good, for yourself and the other person. Whatever that "highest good" might be. IN this case, you would be introducing your friend to community of people who are caring, non-judgement and who are willing to provide support in the form of solid information and research.
 
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aGoodDayToDie

Arcanist
Jun 30, 2023
460
Chances are you'd be OK. While there are methods here, this forum also has other purposes. It's a grey area. It might help if you don't sell it as a place that'll help them die, but just as a place to get support and understanding.
 
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