ZoloftSüchtig

ZoloftSüchtig

„We can olive together“
Apr 9, 2023
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Hey, so I'm miserable. I can't do this anymore. I need a way out right now. I don't have a gun to shoot my self with, the train bridge I could jump off of is so far away for me and I've never been there and don't have the energy to check it out. I don't know how to hang myself. I've seen so much about it and read tutorials but I don't feel comfortable with it. It's so much work and I'm stupid and I just need something I can do right now. That leaves the option to jump in front of a train head first. There's plenty train tracks near me and it's something I could do even today, but I don't want to cause the train driver any pain. I don't want him to think it's his fault but obviously it's not. It's my decision to do this and if anyone's is to blame it's the people who caused my pain to begin with. It's not my fault nor is it the train drivers fault. I need this suffering to end rn. Am I bad person to ctb via train?
 
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DipAndChips

DipAndChips

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Aug 11, 2024
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To be fair.

Why would you care if that makes you a bad person or not.

You will be dead if successful.

Sadly jumping in front of train or bus can easily fail as well so not 100% reliable.

But you will cause trauma to others if you do. :P
 
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Aprilfarewell4

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Apr 9, 2024
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No.

Having no other options and needing out does not make you a bad person, ever.

No matter what anyone says.

Some people have no choice and that's why many resort to train or semi etc.

Most people if given rightful access to a peaceful way would use it. Mostly none of us have that option.
 
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ZoloftSüchtig

ZoloftSüchtig

„We can olive together“
Apr 9, 2023
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No.

Having no other options and needing out does not make you a bad person, ever.

No matter what anyone says.

Some people have no choice and that's why many resort to train or semi etc.

Most people if given rightful access to a peaceful way would use it. Mostly none of us have that option.
If I had a gun I'd shoot myself in the head instead of jumping in front of a train 100%. The people who caused my suffering don't give me an easy option to cbt ?? How unfair is that?
To be fair.

Why would you care if that makes you a bad person or not.

You will be dead if successful.

Sadly jumping in front of train or bus can easily fail as well so not 100% reliable.

But you will cause trauma to others if you do. :P
Because while I'd be dead the other people wouldn't and I don't want to cause people any suffering. I don't wanna be a bad person, but I also know that I can't suffer like this anymore and right now I don't know what other option than cbt by train I have. There kind of isn't any, because of the reasons I listed earlier. I'm too much depressed to cbt any other way atm. And I would just hope that the train driver knows that they couldn't have stopped it. That's it's not their fault. I hope they know that, but also I don't think it's my fault that I'm this depressed that I see no other way but killing myself
 
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Aprilfarewell4

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Apr 9, 2024
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If I had a gun I'd shoot myself in the head instead of jumping in front of a train 100%. The people who caused my suffering don't give me an easy option to cbt ?? How unfair is that?

Because while I'd be dead the other people wouldn't and I don't want to cause people any suffering. I don't wanna be a bad person, but I also know that I can't suffer like this anymore and right now I don't know what other option than cbt by train I have. There kind of isn't any, because of the reasons I listed earlier. I'm too much depressed to cbt any other way atm. And I would just hope that the train driver knows that they couldn't have stopped it. That's it's not their fault. I hope they know that, but also I don't think it's my fault that I'm this depressed that I see no other way but killing myself
Train conductors are trained and know the risks. I've seen a lot of videos of people going in front of trains all over the world. People do it because they have no choice. You may not go through with it. But you weren't doing anything wrong because you were denied a peaceful alternative if you do.
 
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bed

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Aug 24, 2019
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I don't think it makes you a bad person but you will be traumatizing a random person for the rest of their life.
 
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etherealspring

etherealspring

can someone just kill me already
Mar 27, 2024
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it's not an ideal method, but no, it wouldn't make you a "bad person". if ur desperate, ur desperate. if ur main goal is to ctb and u have no other methods available to you, then so be it. whatever you choose to do, i wish you the best.
 
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samdocheon

samdocheon

Optimists are wrong
Jul 28, 2024
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Waited firsts answers bc it's my method. Bad person : no
Maybe you will makes news more than an other method, that's all
 
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ThisIsMe1357

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May 20, 2024
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I do not think you would be a bad person, especially if you are truly suffering, though you might try reconsidering and doing something which does not involve other people (train conductors) and which is not thought of as an unreliable method with risk of surviving with bad consequences (even if you already mentioned plenty of methods in your post).
 
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samdocheon

samdocheon

Optimists are wrong
Jul 28, 2024
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Finding your body involve other people
 
ZoloftSüchtig

ZoloftSüchtig

„We can olive together“
Apr 9, 2023
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I do not think you would be a bad person, especially if you are truly suffering, though you might try reconsidering and doing something which does not involve other people (train conductors) and which is not thought of as an unreliable method with risk of surviving with bad consequences (even if you already mentioned plenty of methods in your post).
there isn't really any other methods I can think of that would be possible of me to do, but yeah I am trying to do hanging or jumping instead but I just need to know that if I can't do hanging or jumping, that's it's okay for me to ctb by train too.
 
damienlerone03

damienlerone03

reject humanity, return to monke
May 5, 2024
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I was once on a train where someone jumped into the tracks. I was only told later because back then I was younger - it was also a high speed train. I don't know about the conductor i'm sure they were traumatized but the only problem it caused me back then was the 6 hour wait on the tracks before we could continue.
 
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nasigoreng99

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Aug 23, 2024
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I don't think it would make you a bad person. Truly hope you will find a reliable method for ctb. Hugs.
 
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willitpass

willitpass

Don’t try to offer me help, I’ve tried everything
Mar 10, 2020
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I know this is going to be a bit controversial, and while I don't think it makes you a bad person as a whole, I think it would be incredibly selfish. You are now subjecting an innocent person to be involved in the act of your death. This person did not consent. They did not ask to be put in this situation. And while people argue that "they knew the risk when they decided to be a train conductor, they can handle it", any train conductor will tell you that is absolutely not true. They went into train conducting to drive trains, not assist suicides. And they will be the first to tell you it is the most traumatic experience of their life that many never get over. It has driven people to end their careers, given them PTSD, etc. Just because it CAN happen on the job doesn't mean it makes it okay or any easier for them.

Do not involve unwilling participants in the act of your death. It is traumatic beyond comprehension and they did not consent. Desperation yields unsavory ideas of how to get out of here, I get it. Nothing wrong with considering it in times of desperation. But please do not do this to someone.
 
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1488

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I know this is going to be a bit controversial, and while I don't think it makes you a bad person as a whole, I think it would be incredibly selfish. You are now subjecting an innocent person to be involved in the act of your death. This person did not consent. They did not ask to be put in this situation. And while people argue that "they knew the risk when they decided to be a train conductor, they can handle it", any train conductor will tell you that is absolutely not true. They went into train conducting to drive trains, not assist suicides. And they will be the first to tell you it is the most traumatic experience of their life that many never get over. It has driven people to end their careers, given them PTSD, etc. Just because it CAN happen on the job doesn't mean it makes it okay or any easier for them.

Do not involve unwilling participants in the act of your death. It is traumatic beyond comprehension and they did not consent. Desperation yields unsavory ideas of how to get out of here, I get it. Nothing wrong with considering it in times of desperation. But please do not do this to someone.
I second this. I live in the West, but after seeing how many people in the East ctb by jumping in front of trains it made me think that, if I lived in Asia, I would discourage my children from getting a job as an engineer as it's only a matter of time before you kill someone.
 
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ZoloftSüchtig

„We can olive together“
Apr 9, 2023
113
I know this is going to be a bit controversial, and while I don't think it makes you a bad person as a whole, I think it would be incredibly selfish. You are now subjecting an innocent person to be involved in the act of your death. This person did not consent. They did not ask to be put in this situation. And while people argue that "they knew the risk when they decided to be a train conductor, they can handle it", any train conductor will tell you that is absolutely not true. They went into train conducting to drive trains, not assist suicides. And they will be the first to tell you it is the most traumatic experience of their life that many never get over. It has driven people to end their careers, given them PTSD, etc. Just because it CAN happen on the job doesn't mean it makes it okay or any easier for them.

Do not involve unwilling participants in the act of your death. It is traumatic beyond comprehension and they did not consent. Desperation yields unsavory ideas of how to get out of here, I get it. Nothing wrong with considering it in times of desperation. But please do not do this to someone.
Yes Ive since moved on from this method. I am gonna try and jump from a train bridge instead.
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
4,826
No, you aren't a bad person for jumping in front of a train and I'm shocked that people on SS out of all places are saying otherwise. It's society that is bad for restricting suicide methods to where the only ways that a person can die is via a brutal and horrific method. It's society that's to blame here, not those who jump in front of a train. Not everybody is able to access a relatively peaceful method such as SN. People wouldn't have to resort to jumping in front of trains if society legalised euthanasia
 
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Davey40210

Davey40210

Even the stars make room for new stars
Sep 3, 2024
343
No, you aren't a bad person for jumping in front of a train and I'm shocked that people on SS out of all places are saying otherwise. It's society that is bad for restricting suicide methods to where the only ways that a person can die is via a brutal and horrific method. It's society that's to blame here, not those who jump in front of a train. Not everybody is able to access a relatively peaceful method such as SN. People wouldn't have to resort to jumping in front of trains if society legalised euthanasia
Completely agree.

You could say its even better to do it this way if you leave a note saying you wish for an easier method out. Maybe somebody would then listen for once.
 
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Thisisme373

Thisisme373

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Feb 16, 2019
416
I'm considering train method, just got to know where is good spots, do they need to be going certain speed?
 

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