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Wrennie

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I'm looking to rent a P.O. box when ordering my N so that I don't legally implicate my family. I haven't heard anything on this forum about N ever being delivered to a P.O. box - normally it's just people ordering SN to their P.O. boxes. I suppose I could try to ask D directly if he does, but he doesn't like too many questions and naturally he stopped replying to me when I said that I wasn't ready to pay at this exact moment in time.

Did A ever deliver to P.O. boxes back when he was still active?

Also, what size P.O. box should I choose? They offer multiple sizes. How large were your packages when you ordered N?
 

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Wrennie

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Still very curious about this...
I don't want to waste money on setting up a P.O. box beforehand if he won't end up doing it.
 
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Thank you! I haven't asked D about that yet because he pretty much ghosted me after I said I didn't have the money to pay at this 'exact' point in time. I'm afraid that if I ask too many questions he'll ditch me as a customer, and then I'll truly be screwed & left with no source for N. I have multiple accounts registered with ProtonMail in the event that he no longer responds to my main one, so it might be worth me asking from one of those, but if anyone else on the forum is willing to ask him while he's being responsive that would be incredibly beneficial.
 
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It is not advised to use P.O. boxes for illegal shipments. Using unusual names, addresses, and P.O. boxes raise suspicion. You are more likely to have your shipments searched if they go to a P.O. box. Not to mention, it is more obvious that the shipment is for you.

You should get it shipped to your address. I saw this advice elsewhere, but don't open it immediately. Write "return to sender" on the box and leave it somewhere where safe, but not hidden if LE comes knocking. This is so that if someone drops by in the following days you can deny ordering the package. If you open it immediately or make an obvious effort to hide it then they are not as likely to believe you. After you wait a few days you can open the package. Destroy the packaging.
 
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It is not advised to use P.O. boxes for illegal shipments. Using unusual names, addresses, and P.O. boxes raise suspicion. You are more likely to have your shipments searched if they go to a P.O. box. Not to mention, it is more obvious that the shipment is for you.

You should get it shipped to your address. I saw this advice elsewhere, but don't open it immediately. Write "return to sender" on the box and leave it somewhere where safe, but not hidden if LE comes knocking. This is so that if someone drops by in the following days you can deny ordering the package. If you open it immediately or make an obvious effort to hide it then they are not as likely to believe you. After you wait a few days you can open the package. Destroy the packaging.
Thanks for the information. I recall reading the opsec about packaging from some posts by @LiesAndLigatures, but I know that LE can trace that I ordered the package if they truly wanted to because I'd be using Moneygram instead of Bitcoin to purchase it (because I just can't comprehend it). Also, the reason I don't want to order directly to my personal address is because I live with my family & since my father works in security he would be in deep shit if an illegal substance were delivered to his address.
I plan to CTB as soon as possible after receiving my N, but I don't want to leave too much of a legal mess for my family after I'm gone.
 
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D ships using a private carrier so no (unless street addressing is included with the PO Box then yes)
 
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D ships using a private carrier so no (unless street addressing is included with the PO Box then yes)
I heard private courier was an option but most users I've seen so far have reported going with UPS (maybe because the private courier option costs 100 dollars more).

If you went with private courier is your package less likely to be intercepted by customs?
 
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I heard private carrier was an option but most users I've seen so far have reported him going with UPS
UPS is a "private carrier" (along with FedEx and so on)
 
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Reviving this thread. I just am genuinely curious if anyone's successfully ordered their N to a P.O. Box in the past, even if it isn't "advised" to do so. My options so far are severely limited so I'd truly appreciate anyone detailing their personal experience in doing so here.
 
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Reviving this thread. I just am genuinely curious if anyone's successfully ordered their N to a P.O. Box in the past, even if it isn't "advised" to do so. My options so far are severely limited so I'd truly appreciate anyone detailing their personal experience in doing so here.
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better get a "goalie" and have him receive it.. Thats what I am gonna do cuz I know im under surveillence..