Method Would 50% sn work and morphine od

[littleinsanity]

I ended up not finding a suitable place to jump from (which is okay as it was never my first choice) but it's still hard to find a sn source (preferred method)
I've found a few polish sources like w and b that people seemed to talk about but it seems they all only sell to businesses now.
I *think* I found a proper source that will sell to privates but it's 50% curing salt and 50% sn.
I know u normally need at least 96% purity and curing salt doesn't work as it makes it hard to absorb the necessary amount because it contains usually really small amounts of sn but wouldn't 50% be doable by simply doubling the amount (20 g of sn -> 40 g ) without it being an absurd quantity to intake?

Or would I likely just pass out for a while with maybe permanent damage/ throw it all up?
Perhaps I know the answer but I still ask.

Also curious about morphine od as I have access to a decent amount (200 mg oral and 400 or 600 mg in total that u inject).
Not a fan of it but is it right to assume that 200mg taken orally is hardly lethal because your body doesn't absorb it properly? Does that mean it has to be iv and im or sc are out of the question? ( I have no experience with recreational use of any drug to begin eith but IV would make it completely out of question)

 

[dying flower]

I ended up not finding a suitable place to jump from (which is okay as it was never my first choice) but it's still hard to find a sn source (preferred method)
I've found a few polish sources like w and b that people seemed to talk about but it seems they all only sell to businesses now.
I *think* I found a proper source that will sell to privates but it's 50% curing salt and 50% sn.
I know u normally need at least 96% purity and curing salt doesn't work as it makes it hard to absorb the necessary amount because it contains usually really small amounts of sn but wouldn't 50% be doable by simply doubling the amount (20 g of sn -> 40 g ) without it being an absurd quantity to intake?

Or would I likely just pass out for a while with maybe permanent damage/ throw it all up?
Perhaps I know the answer but I still ask.

Also curious about morphine od as I have access to a decent amount (200 mg oral and 400 or 600 mg in total that u inject).
Not a fan of it but is it right to assume that 200mg taken orally is hardly lethal because your body doesn't absorb it properly? Does that mean it has to be iv and im or sc are out of the question? ( I have no experience with recreational use of any drug to begin eith but IV would make it completely out of question)

You can't double it as you are not increasing the amount of salt, it will still be 50%. It has to be 98%

 

[AmericanMary]

I am not a science person. I don't have anything to back this up.

But I feel like using 2x a lesser potent SN will not do the same thing as 99% pure SN. I don't think that's how it works.

I think realistically you'll just hurt yourself from all of the salt.

 

[littleinsanity]

You can't double it as you are not increasing the amount of salt, it will still be 50%. It has to be 98%

I was hoping I'd take the necessary amount of sn this way even though it's not pure but I did assume that it's probably just not how it works.
Ty for ur reply

I am not a science person. I don't have anything to back this up.

But I feel like using 2x a lesser potent SN will not do the same thing as 99% pure SN. I don't think that's how it works.

I think realistically you'll just hurt yourself from all of the salt.

I assumed the same but still wanted another opinion, ty!

 

[itsalittlecold]

in theory yeah. The others aren't accounting for ratios

50g @50/50= 25g(crude) / 25g(nitrite)
20g @50/50= 10g(crude) / 10g (nitrite)
100g @96/4= 96g(nitrite)/ 4g (crude)

However that been said it's been 100% certain you do have a 50/50 blend and I don't think they'd be a way to test yourself.

Also even though the theory is correct, in my opinion it would be bad idea- you're introducing too many untested variables.

I am not a science person. I don't have anything to back this up.

But I feel like using 2x a lesser potent SN will not do the same thing as 99% pure SN. I don't think that's how it works.

I think realistically you'll just hurt yourself from all of the salt.

It does work like that, however you're right in a way… it's introducing 2 chemical compounds at the same ratio and even tho both are toxic, but some of the symptoms may counteract the others

 

[littleinsanity]

in theory yeah. The others aren't accounting for ratios

50g @50/50= 25g(crude) / 25g(nitrite)
20g @50/50= 10g(crude) / 10g (nitrite)
100g @96/4= 96g(nitrite)/ 4g (crude)

However that been said it's been 100% certain you do have a 50/50 blend and I don't think they'd be a way to test yourself.

Also even though the theory is correct, in my opinion it would be bad idea- you're introducing too many untested variables.

It does work like that, however you're right in a way… it's introducing 2 chemical compounds at the same ratio and even tho both are toxic, but some of the symptoms may counteract the others

Normally increasing the quantity is not doable as the salt contains minimum amount of sn so I'd be intaking an absurd amount.
I was mostly hoping that 50/50 would work as you wouldn't have to intake a huge quantity.

People seem to struggle with proper absorption even with 98% purity though and fail by throwing up too quickly and being left with side affects, so a big curiosity of mine is if 50% would widely increase the chances of failure or it wouldn't make a big difference.
It always seemed like it had to be as pure as possible but i don't know why unless this is the worry

 

[itsalittlecold]

Normally increasing the quantity is not doable as the salt contains minimum amount of sn so I'd be intaking an absurd amount.
I was mostly hoping that 50/50 would work as you wouldn't have to intake a huge quantity.

People seem to struggle with proper absorption even with 98% purity though and fail by throwing up too quickly and being left with side affects, so a big curiosity of mine is if 50% would widely increase the chances of failure or it wouldn't make a big difference.
It always seemed like it had to be as pure as possible but i don't know why unless this is the worry

That's actually an interesting question. I don't know the answers to it.

However let's say the minimum lethal dose is 2g for sn (I'm sure it's that) because of the variables your accounting for I.e absorption rate & chance of vomiting- that's why recommended dose is 25g & 35g for 100kg+
In that logic- it would make a huge difference because of you said at the start, the increase in quantity.

It has to be as pure as poss because of what I've already said- with ctb it should be as reliable, risk free & effective as possible. Introducing a 2nd compound at the same ratio as the targeted compound- you're adding to many variables, ones that haven't been tested.
The PPH goes into great detail & explains the process, they're medical professionals and have done tests in controlled conditions.

I am interested in the morphine dosage question though, I saw a few bottles for sale the other day.

 

[littleinsanity]

That's actually an interesting question. I don't know the answers to it.

However let's say the minimum lethal dose is 2g for sn (I'm sure it's that) because of the variables your accounting for I.e absorption rate & chance of vomiting- that's why recommended dose is 25g & 35g for 100kg+
In that logic- it would make a huge difference because of you said at the start, the increase in quantity.

It has to be as pure as poss because of what I've already said- with ctb it should be as reliable, risk free & effective as possible. Introducing a 2nd compound at the same ratio as the targeted compound- you're adding to many variables, ones that haven't been tested.
The PPH goes into great detail & explains the process, they're medical professionals and have done tests in controlled conditions.

I am interested in the morphine dosage question though, I saw a few bottles for sale the other day.

I don't weigh that much so i was hoping to go with with that much as it's 50/50 but only if it was reliable (which doesn't seem the case) .

About the morphine i became interested as a quick search seems to say that 200 mg taken orally is lethal if you're opioid naive but i came upon some opinions on this site that you couldn't actually absorb it properly for it to be lethal if taken orally. Accessibility decreases for most people including me if it has to be iv.

If it was im or sc i still wouldn't go with it but it i see no way to really throw up the opioid itself so it shouldn't fail? but i don't actually know drugs related stuff at all so it's all assumptions of mine LOL

Or perhaps going with both ? (Oral and injection?) Alcohol seems to be make make it more lethal but would increase the chances of vomiting

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

I think it could work. There was a trend for some time in Southeast Asian countries where people were committing suicide by drinking soy sauce. Because of the high salt content. I don't know how much they had to drink but it worked and many people died that way. You have to do or try whatever you're comfortable with. I do think the morphine will help. Morphine alone can kill a person. My opinion is probably in the minority but I get where you're coming from.

 

[littleinsanity]

I think it could work. There was a trend for some time in Southeast Asian countries where people were committing suicide by drinking soy sauce. Because of the high salt content. I don't know how much they had to drink but it worked and many people died that way. You have to do or try whatever you're comfortable with. I do think the morphine will help. Morphine alone can kill a person. My opinion is probably in the minority but I get where you're coming from.

If i don't get my hands on pure sn i might try the 50% for the sake of it but i don't think the soy sauce thing is the same.
Salt od is a painful way to go from what I've heard

 

[enduringwinter]

People seem to struggle with proper absorption even with 98% purity though and fail by throwing up too quickly and being left with side affects

Yeah afaik this is the main worry. Not enough potency means your body is not depleted of oxygen and will simply vomit and process it.

 

[littleinsanity]

Yeah afaik this is the main worry. Not enough potency means your body is not depleted of oxygen and will simply vomit and process it.

Your reply was pretty helpful so ty

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

If i don't get my hands on pure sn i might try the 50% for the sake of it but i don't think the soy sauce thing is the same.
Salt od is a painful way to go from what I've heard

I didn't say it was the same I was just trying to describe a method where people use salt to die. I guess when people are desperate enough or whatever pain doesn't matter? I don't know much about it it's just something I've heard of.