Woman jailed for 4 years for backing out of suicide pact

[MachineGunDani]

But yea it causes problems, or at least can.

 

[josh228]

Just having someone there with u doing the same thing is more comforting.

have you tried?

 

[MachineGunDani]

have you tried?

No. I did consider a group pact but thought about the risk with more people involved so I got out.

 

[bigj75]

more people involved higher risk of problems!

 

[RainAndSadness]

There was also another case a couple of years ago of a girl who manipulated her boyfriend into suicide. These people exist and they have nothing to do with this community. Pushing someone to suicide and being pro-choice are two completely different things.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...nd-into-suicide-to-face-trial-in-October.html

Before he died, she pretended to her friends that he had gone missing, all the while exchanging hundreds of texts with him.

"You're finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain," she told him in one message. "It's okay to be scared and it's normal. I mean, you're about to die."

Many of her messages to him seemed to imply that Roy, who had previously attempted suicide, would be better off dead.

If he wavered in his resolve to commit suicide, Carter replied forcefully. More texts read: "You always say you're gonna do it, but you never do," Carter complained. "I just want to make sure tonight is the real thing."

"You can't keep pushing it off, though. That's all you keep doing."

Disgusting if you ask me.

 

[josh228]

No. I did consider a group pact but thought about the risk with more people involved so I got out.

then you dont know if its more conforting. If anything watching someone slowly die next to you/make the decision first might be way worse.

 

[Nem]

Made the mistake of a pact with someone that was careless, ended up getting brought into the hospital by police. Fiance and I broke up right after that, was an absolutely horrible situation. If I hadn't done that we would probably still be together, for the most part the relationship was okay except for a bit of controlling and anger on her part. Wow, that was a life changing experience for the worse!
That situation was just terrible, fiance picked me up from the hospital in the morning and when we got home I was told to sleep on the couch. That was the worst part of my illness after suffering the damage from the meds, completely ruined myself from that. If I had not done that might be recovered somewhat with a fiance still and my career. Devastating

 

[bigj75]

Made the mistake of a pact with someone that was careless, ended up getting brought into the hospital by police. Fiance and I broke up right after that, was an absolutely horrible situation. If I hadn't done that we would probably still be together, for the most part the relationship was okay except for a bit of controlling and anger on her part. Wow, that was a life changing experience for the worse!
That situation was just terrible, fiance picked me up from the hospital in the morning and when we got home I was told to sleep on the couch. That was the worst part of my illness after suffering the damage from the meds, completely ruined myself from that. If I had not done that might be recovered somewhat with a fiance still and my career. Devastating

holy shit.

Sorry to hear that.

 

[Nem]

holy shit.

Sorry to hear that.

Thanks, it was really bad...really bad. I had met another person a week earlier online and they jerked around and should've learned from that. Right then I should've figured out living was the thing to do at the time because the fall out was just awful. I was at the airport waiting for the person and something didn't seem right...they were delayed and I should've just left and went home. Not that I wanted to desert the other person but something seemed wrong. There was a phone for arrivals and I picked it up and asked about a passenger arrival, talked for a moment on the phone and they said to stay there. After hanging up a person told me there was someone that wanted to talk to me and I turned around and two cops were behind me and took me in. The other person basically told them everything and I was brought in, if I had left it is possible nothing would've happened since customs was going to fly the other person home. Not even sure they had my name or anything, wow what a most awful experience, worst feeling I could imagine

 

[Miss clefable]

Thanks, it was really bad...really bad. I had met another person a week earlier online and they jerked around and should've learned from that. Right then I should've figured out living was the thing to do at the time because the fall out was just awful. I was at the airport waiting for the person and something didn't seem right...they were delayed and I should've just left and went home. Not that I wanted to desert the other person but something seemed wrong. There was a phone for arrivals and I picked it up and asked about a passenger arrival, talked for a moment on the phone and they said to stay there. After hanging up a person told me there was someone that wanted to talk to me and I turned around and two cops were behind me and took me in. The other person basically told them everything and I was brought in, if I had left it is possible nothing would've happened since customs was going to fly the other person home. Not even sure they had my name or anything, wow what a most awful experience, worst feeling I could imagine

Wtf hugs

 

[Nem]

Wtf hugs

Thanks Miss Clefable, that situation caused my life to go straight down. A best friend stopped talking to me ever since that happened. I don't understand why I didn't just stop planning my death because I had a fiance that was more or less trying to help me recover and I just blew that situation apart like a nuclear bomb. We might be still together and possibly I might be recovered some more but not after that. I'm not afraid of partners necessarily, just need to be careful, most likely going to end things alone, should've felt that way from the start

 

[bigj75]

Thanks, it was really bad...really bad. I had met another person a week earlier online and they jerked around and should've learned from that. Right then I should've figured out living was the thing to do at the time because the fall out was just awful. I was at the airport waiting for the person and something didn't seem right...they were delayed and I should've just left and went home. Not that I wanted to desert the other person but something seemed wrong. There was a phone for arrivals and I picked it up and asked about a passenger arrival, talked for a moment on the phone and they said to stay there. After hanging up a person told me there was someone that wanted to talk to me and I turned around and two cops were behind me and took me in. The other person basically told them everything and I was brought in, if I had left it is possible nothing would've happened since customs was going to fly the other person home. Not even sure they had my name or anything, wow what a most awful experience, worst feeling I could imagine

I have no words for this shit. What the fuck.

 

[Nem]

I have no words for this shit. What the fuck.

Yep, me either. I had been really sick from a med reaction gone bad, was sleeping only two hours a night for well over a year, sleep was maybe slowly getting better but I ended up stopping seeing my therapist, flying to California to see a naturopath as a last hope, was just getting worse. I spent a lot of time focused on the damage and with only two hours of sleep a night it was no wonder I couldn't see my way out. I was just so sick, I went to pick up sushi for my fiance and I and the sushi chef that knew us both actually said to me "you look really tired" and I was! The fact that he noticed it made me think that life was just getting worse and sure it wasn't great but what was happening was I was experiencing withdrawals from stopping alprazolam cold turkey after my reaction and my Dr never checked my chart after I told him I stopped all of my meds. The Dr was just not paying attention at all, Dr put me back on value after but never told me I had to up the dose to make up for the difference in strength between meds. So, the withdrawals just continued and are possibly still with me because my sleep is still two hours a night, after this fiasco happened I was in complete shock and my fiance should've had me brought to the hospital for observation instead of telling me to leave right away. I was still contacting people after this happened, just because I was so sick, fiance broke into my email and was told to leave two days after this happened. Had to find a place in the dead of winter and when I found it but had to wait two weeks to move in...she screamed at me every single day till I left. We were still good friends for over a year after this...really good friends. I think she shouldve given me some slack and empathy because we got along really well and she was the one that demanded I keep taking the meds that caused me to nearly die. Sorry for the long story, it was devastating...I'm still sad about it

 

[Dani Paradox]

There was also another case a couple of years ago of a girl who manipulated her boyfriend into suicide. These people exist and they have nothing to do with this community. Pushing someone to suicide and being pro-choice are two completely different things.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...nd-into-suicide-to-face-trial-in-October.html



Disgusting if you ask me.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...nd-into-suicide-to-face-trial-in-October.html

I remember that. I don't think that girl did anything wrong either....

 

[Jaded]

I remember that. I don't think that girl did anything wrong either....

She didn't really. She was only a kid dealing with that and finally she just snapped.

 

[Nem]

I never really recovered from that incident and I have huge regrets over taking meds, stopping valium without telling my Dr and then listening to my fiance demand I keep taking meds. I'm fucked up from the whole scenario and before all this crap...I was quite normal, played a few instruments...worked out four days a week and basically loved life. Things changed when a coworker gave me some valium after I made the horrific mistake of mentioning I was dealing with depression/anxiety...took a pill and got a massive headache, should've thrown the rest out right then and I would've never taken any other meds. Shit, sorry for the long post

 

[RainAndSadness]

I remember that. I don't think that girl did anything wrong either....

Alright then. Let's ignore the fact that suicidal people are more vulnerable and exposed to psychological manipulation but yeah, she didn't do anything wrong.

Suicide is my personal choice. Nobody has any autonomy over me and if someone told me this

"You always say you're gonna do it, but you never do," Carter complained. "I just want to make sure tonight is the real thing."

and this

"You can't keep pushing it off, though. That's all you keep doing."

you're taking things that are supposed to be my decision into your own hands. That's not a pro-choice stance, that's a pro-suicide stance. Encouraging someone to kill themselves is a big difference than accepting someones own decision free from any influence to end their life. But I've heard some members in this forum have a pro-suicide stance. Guess you're one of them?

 

[Candour]

Thanks, it was really bad...really bad. I had met another person a week earlier online and they jerked around and should've learned from that. Right then I should've figured out living was the thing to do at the time because the fall out was just awful. I was at the airport waiting for the person and something didn't seem right...they were delayed and I should've just left and went home. Not that I wanted to desert the other person but something seemed wrong. There was a phone for arrivals and I picked it up and asked about a passenger arrival, talked for a moment on the phone and they said to stay there. After hanging up a person told me there was someone that wanted to talk to me and I turned around and two cops were behind me and took me in. The other person basically told them everything and I was brought in, if I had left it is possible nothing would've happened since customs was going to fly the other person home. Not even sure they had my name or anything, wow what a most awful experience, worst feeling I could imagine

Your situation is the opposite to what this woman did, she was loyal to the guy she did the pact with.

 

[Nem]

Your situation is the opposite to what this woman did, she was loyal to the guy she did the pact with.

Possibly. The other person ratted us out and I was brought in and not in a good way either. Having a partner has its pros and cons, depends on the individuals involved, getting ratted out was a very bad scene. Even though I didn't die, I sure wish I did at the time, what a waste of energy/time and basically my existence

 

[Dani Paradox]

Alright then. Let's ignore the fact that suicidal people are more vulnerable and exposed to psychological manipulation but yeah, she didn't do anything wrong.

Suicide is my personal choice. Nobody has any autonomy over me and if someone told me this



and this



you're taking things that are supposed to be my decision into your own hands. That's not a pro-choice stance, that's a pro-suicide stance. Encouraging someone to kill themselves is a big difference than accepting someones own decision free from any influence to end their life. But I've heard some members in this forum have a pro-suicide stance. Guess you're one of them?

All I know is that I wish I had someone to encourage me and push me to do it so that I don't back out. Her boyfriend had been suicidal for a long time and couldn't get past the survival instinct, and once again was going to back out, so she gave him the push that he needed...

 

[josh228]

All I know is that I wish I had someone to encourage me and push me to do it so that I don't back out. Her boyfriend had been suicidal for a long time and couldn't get past the survival instinct, and once again was going to back out, so she gave him the push that he needed...

if you need to be pushed and prodded then you are not ready, period. Seek therapy.

 

[RainAndSadness]

All I know is that I wish I had someone to encourage me and push me to do it so that I don't back out. Her boyfriend had been suicidal for a long time and couldn't get past the survival instinct, and once again was going to back out, so she gave him the push that he needed...

But shouldn't you only really commit suicide if all doubts are gone? I think a push was the last thing he really needed when even left the truck. Telling him to go back into the truck and commit suicide just seems wrong. It's forced. Suicide should never be forced, especially not from someone else. And especially not from your own girlfriend, like... what the hell. If my own girlfriend did that to me I would run very fast. That's simply emotional and psychological abuse at that point.

if you need to be pushed and prodded then you are not ready, period. Seek therapy.

I agree 100%.

 

[Nem]

Well, yes if you need to be pushed then just like Josh mentioned, he maybe wasn't ready. Hard to speculate on this, without acruelly being there. It's a fine line but the girlfriend pushing him along doesn't sound good

 

[Dani Paradox]

if you need to be pushed and prodded then you are not ready, period. Seek therapy.

Lmao. I'm not ready because survival instinct is a bitch? My dick is gone, my life is destroyed and I am literally unable to function. All I ever do is scream and cry and wail into a pillow. I am more than ready. That does not mean it wouldn't be nice to have encouragement. Who the fuck wants to die alone??

 

[josh228]

But shouldn't you only really commit suicide if all doubts are gone? I think a push was the last thing he really needed when even left the truck. Telling him to go back into the truck and commit suicide just seems wrong. It's forced. Suicide should never be forced, especially not from someone else. And especially not from your own girlfriend, like... what the hell. If my own girlfriend did that to me I would run very fast. That's simply emotional and psychological abuse at that point.



I agree 100%.

Im glad to finally meet someone in this forum that thinks just like me.

 

[josh228]

Lmao. I'm not ready because survival instinct is a bitch? My dick is gone, my life is destroyed and I am literally unable to function. All I ever do is scream and cry and wail into a pillow. I am more than ready. That does not mean it wouldn't be nice to have encouragement. Who the fuck wants to die alone??

dude, no matter what you do, you will die alone. You always die alone. If someone chatting shit will beat your survival instinct...i dunno man

 

[Dani Paradox]

But shouldn't you only really commit suicide if all doubts are gone? I think a push was the last thing he really needed when even left the truck. Telling him to go back into the truck and commit suicide just seems wrong. It's forced. Suicide should never be forced, especially not from someone else. And especially not from your own girlfriend, like... what the hell. If my own girlfriend did that to me I would run very fast. That's simply emotional and psychological abuse at that point.



I agree 100%.

Yes, you should only commit suicide if all doubts are gone. But getting past survival instinct has nothing to do with doubts of living. It is simply fear. I haven't the slightest bit of doubt that I have no choice but to take my life. But that doesn't make it any less scary.

 

[Dani Paradox]

dude, no matter what you do, you will die alone. You always die alone. If someone chatting shit will beat your survival instinct...i dunno man

Well yeah, talking on the phone with my girlfriend would make me feel much less alone... Hence why I am getting a cell phone to talk to everyone here while I do it. So that I feel less alone... I mean I'd love to have someone with me holding my hand but that is not exactly an option...

 

[josh228]

Well yeah, talking on the phone with my girlfriend would make me feel much less alone... Hence why I am getting a cell phone to talk to everyone here while I do it. So that I feel less alone... I mean I'd love to have someone with me holding my hand but that is not exactly an option...

I dont think youre ready bro. My honest to god opinion. But, I cant judge fully.

 

[Nem]

Well yeah, talking on the phone with my girlfriend would make me feel much less alone... Hence why I am getting a cell phone to talk to everyone here while I do it. So that I feel less alone... I mean I'd love to have someone with me holding my hand but that is not exactly an option...

Assisted suicide would be a good choice then if you could get it. I'm leary of a partner since my other situation that happened. Always be careful about a partner in this situation!