Discussion Why would SN be stopped at UK customs?

[GoneAndForgotten]

I'm a bit confused as to why SN may be confiscated at the UK border. Its not illegal to own or sell, its regulated but that's only for the sellers. I fail to see how the authorities have the right to take it at customs.

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

Found this:

Supplying explosives precursors and poisons

www.gov.uk

SN is a "reportable substance" according to UK law.

 

[Whole-Ad]

You're supposed to have a license to purchase and/or import I believe.

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

You're supposed to have a license to purchase and/or import I believe.

I thought it was only reportable to the seller if they're suspicious. I'm hoping it can get to me

 

[checkouttime]

I don't think all of the sellers are people that 'report' people. I can't imagine them selling it on ebay, amazon etc if they were the type lol. Some of the sellers are from countries where its perfectly legal and not a reportable substance aswell, It just gets posted as being another substance,,but i won't go into how stuff gets posted to make it get through customs!!!

for instance the seller i got mine from used to go on and off the sites they sold on, they have their own website and it isn't advertised on there either, but i bought it from them

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

I don't think all of the sellers are people that 'report' people. I can't imagine them selling it on ebay, amazon etc if they were the type lol. Some of the sellers are from countries where its perfectly legal and not a reportable substance aswell, It just gets posted as being another substance,,but i won't go into how stuff gets posted to make it get through customs!!!

for instance the seller i got mine from used to go on and off the sites they sold on, they have their own website and it isn't advertised on there either, but i bought it from them

Would you mind messaging me the site you purchased off of? I've got two sources but I'm not too confident >.<

 

[checkouttime]

Sorry i'm not willing to give out sources. Alot of sources have disappeared or gone underground now due to the pro lifers, i don't want to be responsible for another!!!!!

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

Sorry i'm not willing to give out sources. Alot of sources have disappeared or gone underground now due to the pro lifers, i don't want to be responsible for another!!!!!

I understand that, I appreciate the honesty and not just ignoring my appeal <3 Shame it's so hard to find a way to die peacfully

 

[checkouttime]

I understand that, I appreciate the honesty and not just ignoring my appeal <3 Shame it's so hard to find a way to die peacfully

depends on your definition of hard, I easily purchased SN and N and have proven i have it aswell. If sending someone an email and paying them some money to receive N in 2 working days is hard then i guess i'll take that!!!!!!!! SN is a little different no, I mean US its available no problem, other eastern block countries its legal. I think its only the UK its 'hard' and even then you can still get it. Maybe things are made to 'look' hard in order to protect the sources?? i know the person i bought it off doesn't advertise it, thats why i won't give out the source. the pro lifers don't know they are as it isn't up on the site lol


I did see an interesting post a member made about making up a legitimate company for around £25 in order to purchase SN. i wouldn't of thought that was too hard myself, but i suppose we all have definitions of whats hard and what isn't .

I hope you have good luck in receiving your package

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

depends on your definition of hard, I easily purchased SN and N and have proven i have it aswell. If sending someone an email and paying them some money to receive N in 2 working days is hard then i guess i'll take that!!!!!!!! SN is a little different no, I mean US its available no problem, other eastern block countries its legal. I think its only the UK its 'hard' and even then you can still get it.


I did see an interesting post a member made about making up a legitimate company for around £25 in order to purchase SN. i wouldn't of thought that was too hard myself, but i suppose we all have definitions of whats hard and what isn't .

I hope you have good luck in receiving your package

I considered creating a company, I even had a few excuses about testing fish tank filters for nitrites. Decided against it as it would put my name on files ready to check and that would complicate things for my family.

If it arrives I'll post some things about it, I'm going to source all the other stuff now anyway and then hopefully by the end of the week I can take my ride.

 

[checkouttime]

I considered creating a company, I even had a few excuses about testing fish tank filters for nitrites. Decided against it as it would put my name on files ready to check and that would complicate things for my family.

If it arrives I'll post some things about it, I'm going to source all the other stuff now anyway and then hopefully by the end of the week I can take my ride.

your family wouldn't get in trouble because you set up a company ??? your name would be on file, but if the stuff gets to you it wouldn't matter would it!!! but like i said i will leave people to decide if they want to do stuff like that its upto them. I mean if people 'poke' around they won't even have to bother going all that trouble anyway!!!

I think sourcing the anti-e if you are taking them, might not arrive so soon. If ordered online anyway, although some countries you can get stuff OTC.Also there are OTC medications that can be used as alternatives. There's loads of threads about i all i'm sure you will find what your looking for

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

your family wouldn't get in trouble because you set up a company ??? your name would be on file, but if the stuff gets to you it wouldn't matter would it!!! but like i said i will leave people to decide if they want to do stuff like that its upto them. I mean if people 'poke' around they won't even have to bother going all that trouble anyway!!!

I think sourcing the anti-e if you are taking them, might not arrive so soon. If ordered online anyway, although some countries you can get stuff OTC.Also there are OTC medications that can be used as alternatives. There's loads of threads about i all i'm sure you will find what your looking for

I'm lucky in that sense, I'm prescribed anti es already due to a previous medical issue

 

[Whole-Ad]

I thought it was only reportable to the seller if they're suspicious. I'm hoping it can get to me

Whenever you try to purchase it from legit companies in the uk, they will ask for license and business details as they also will only ship to business addresses.

Whenever you try to purchase it from legit companies in the uk, they will ask for license and business details as they also will only ship to business addresses.

 

[checkouttime]

Whenever you try to purchase it from legit companies in the uk, they will ask for license and business details as they also will only ship to business addresses.

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Well it's a piece of piss to set u a limited company. i had one myself!!!! is that meant to be a legit email?????? doesn't look like one much if it is! I like the way they say hello at first then a paragraph after say hi!!!! where's this email come from, it looks really odd to me????

 

[VicMackey]

Whenever you try to purchase it from legit companies in the uk, they will ask for license and business details as they also will only ship to business addresses.

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WOW!!!! That is total Socialist / Nazi control of the population. OMG.

 

[Whole-Ad]

Well it's a piece of piss to set u a limited company. i had one myself!!!! is that meant to be a legit email?????? doesn't look like one much if it is! I like the way they say hello at first then a paragraph after say hi!!!! where's this email come from, it looks really odd to me????

Yes it's a legit company and email. It's actually two separate emails that's why it says hi twice. I tried to dispute it and play dumb to get them to send me it but they wouldn't budge. They still haven't refunded me and that was about 3-4 months ago lol.

 

[Octavina]

I don't understand this fear mongering, my Russian seller I purchased from had no issues with it and I have bought SN from them 3 times now. Royal Mail etc deliver it fine I don't get customs confiscated or police at
My door

 

[Fish Face]

I don't understand this fear mongering, my Russian seller I purchased from had no issues with it and I have bought SN from them 3 times now. Royal Mail etc deliver it fine I don't get customs confiscated or police at
My door

What Russian company was that?

 

[checkouttime]

Yes it's a legit company and email. It's actually two separate emails that's why it says hi twice. I tried to dispute it and play dumb to get them to send me it but they wouldn't budge. They still haven't refunded me and that was about 3-4 months ago lol.

Doesn't look very legit to me, I'd say you have contacted a scammer, not even got a company name or logo on it!!! It could be anyone who wrote that!!!

Anyway it does say about LTD companies, if that was correct they are a piece of piss to set up, i had one myself!! Although i didn't need to use my company personally when i bought SN.

What Russian company was that?

Discussing sources is against the rules

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

Doesn't look very legit to me, I'd say you have contacted a scammer, not even got a company name or logo on it!!! It could be anyone who wrote that!!!

Anyway it does say about LTD companies, if that was correct they are a piece of piss to set up, i had one myself!! Although i didn't need to use my company personally when i bought SN.

Discussing sources is against the rules

I know what brand that sent that email, they are legit but there's no way they'll budge on selling to an individual as its how a member ctb before and it was falsely reported as a suicide kit

 

[checkouttime]

I know what brand that sent that email, they are legit but there's no way they'll budge on selling to an individual as its how a member ctb before and it was falsely reported as a suicide kit

I can't see any brand in that email??? unfortunately that makes it seem like a scammer to me. Obviously each person can choose to believe the email or not, it looks like someone has just made it up!! i also noticed they had not been repaid the money they payed for it, reinforces even more the case for it being a scammer.

"They still haven't refunded me and that was about 3-4 months ago lol."

I mean its not even like SN is alot of money, especially from the actual chemical companies, its even cheaper from them than what it used to sell for on amazon etc (about $20)

 

[GoneAndForgotten]

I can't see any brand in that email??? unfortunately that makes it seem like a scammer to me. Obviously each person can choose to believe the email or not, it looks like someone has just made it up!! i also noticed they had not been repaid the money they payed for it, reinforces even more the case for it being a scammer.

"They still haven't refunded me and that was about 3-4 months ago lol."

I mean its not even like SN is alot of money, especially from the actual chemical companies, its even cheaper from them than what it used to sell for on amazon etc (about $20)

I've emailed them before which is why I know them, but yeah they're not great at refunding

 

[checkouttime]

I've emailed them before which is why I know them, but yeah they're not great at refunding

yeah 3-4 months to not give someone a refund is a rather long time, i would 't trust a site like that or anything they said. I'll leave it upto othesr to decide what they think, just pointing out what i think IMO. People can choose what they decide to believe themselves though

 

[JustLosingMyself]

WOW!!!! That is total Socialist / Nazi control of the population. OMG.

It is neither socialist nor Nazi control (of the population). Just because certain things are regulated more strictly is not a defining criteria of (National) Socialism.

Public health in general and access to toxic substances and explosive precursors in particular is taken a tad more seriously in the UK than in the US, that's all.

 

[Whole-Ad]

I can't see any brand in that email??? unfortunately that makes it seem like a scammer to me. Obviously each person can choose to believe the email or not, it looks like someone has just made it up!! i also noticed they had not been repaid the money they payed for it, reinforces even more the case for it being a scammer.

"They still haven't refunded me and that was about 3-4 months ago lol."

I mean its not even like SN is alot of money, especially from the actual chemical companies, its even cheaper from them than what it used to sell for on amazon etc (about $20)

there are logos on the email they just didn't fit in the screenshot. The refund would have only been around £14 hence why I never pushed for a refund and I had also found another source so really didn't give a fuck about getting my money back. I've attached screenshots of the logo and business info at the bottom of the email and my order receipt. If you still think I've made this up, then I really don't care and I'm not going to try and prove otherwise.

 

[checkouttime]

still doesn't sound right, like i said when you mentioned not having refund fro 3-4 months sealed it all for me., legit companies don't take that long i can guarantee that. If you hadn't of mentioned that it may have looked less like a scammer. I don't even know who that company is anyway, I mean i'd just use the ones that are tried and trusted personally. no point in making things harder than they need to be.

others can decide what they think though, and like i said its very easy to set up a limited company anyway

 

[VicMackey]

It is neither socialist nor Nazi control (of the population). Just because certain things are regulated more strictly is not a defining criteria of (National) Socialism.

Public health in general and access to toxic substances and explosive precursors in particular is taken a tad more seriously in the UK than in the US, that's all.

Yeah.....thats what we call Socialism over here.......

 

[JustLosingMyself]

Yeah.....thats what we call Socialism over here.......

Ignorance is bliss I suppose...

 

[BrokenArrow]

Yeah, it's a reportable substance, which will be reported to the police if you're not a business or industrial customer.

It will likely get seized at customs and the police will come knocking, which is what happened to me.

Luckily I'd prepared an alibi and my nervous mumbling somehow convinced them that it was all good.

I also said to them "it's not illegal to purchase, it's not illegal to possess, it's not illegal to import, it's not illegal to sell....blah blah" - let them know that you know the law, otherwise they may ask you to hand it over to 'confiscate' it.

 

[VicMackey]

Ignorance is bliss I suppose...

I agree. Please fix yourself