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canyouseeme

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As a 2nd gen immigrant I had been raised by a single narcissistic mother who was african and muslim. She expected me to to be the sole carer of her and my severely low functioning autistic brother when I grew up. She had her own issues as her relationship with my father was toxic.

Growing up, she wanted me to be exactly like her, speak her language fluently and be a "good practicing muslim" at the same time. For context I live in a white majority area (Im in the UK, not England) and only family member I had around me all this time was her and my brother. Wed only visit family once a year in the past till I turned 19.

What I am trying to say here that I grew up around white people and was influenced by them. My mother never understood this, my mother was "disappointed" in me because I wasn't the type of child she wanted. According her I was "weird" and "stupid". She would call me this everyday. She was also physically abusive, I have been hit, thrown stuff at, strangled. My mother threatened to put needles in my eyes, throw electrical appliances, burn me with a iron etc. Generally speaking I became terrified of her.

I am quite introspective, I love drawing and writing. Making mangas, playing video games. And I guess I was considered weird.

When I became a teenager it just got worse. I was quite shy and I found it difficult to talk to people at times. Then the racism came, people started to isolate from me, I was bullied, I didn't have many friends. I came back home to be a servant, cleaning, looking after my brother, and I guess listening to all her emotional trauma dumping. And if I didn't do a good job, shed tell me that "even a dog was better than me."

Tbh I hated her, she would shout and yell at me. She would accuse me of "acting white" and she didn't want me to have white non-muslim friends, (not that I had that anyway at the time).

Anyway I can't explain everything as that is too long. So when I was 20, my mother kicked me out of the house for staying too long outside and not even caring to call to check up on her. She gave me a few minutes, I left her and never looked back ever since.

I was homeless for a long time, luckily I had a best friend that had been there to support me. And I was studying at uni. I jumped from accommodation to accommodation, whilst studying and working a job.

I guess men started noticing me (not in a good way). On the street I have been spat at. I have been called "disgusting" "ugly" "gross", men making it knownt to me that they reject me even when I wasn't even paying attention to them on the streets and at uni.

I guess I thought that even if my mother had rejected me, that maybe I would find someone, have a normal relationship, get married, have children like a normal person right?

That was further from the truth, men had only been using me for their own gratification. I was treat differently to other girls I knew. When me and my white former friends went out, they would always get attention whilst id be on the sidelines, ignored.

To be loved, you need to be found attractive to people and I guess maybe I wasn't attractive to as many people. People around me like my best friend and other women esp would say that im "pretty" "stunning" and the reason I was getting hate was because of my race. Tbh I will never know why, I am unpopular here, the country I grew up in.

I kept getting fucked over in relationships. Never had a relationship that lasted longer than 3 months. Nobody really wanted to stay. My isolation worsened my anxiety. I get stared at a lot by strangers when I go out.

Now, I'm 28, 29 next month. A lot of people my age have at least had those experiences or even married or whatever along those lines. Tbh all I wanted in life was to love and be loved in return and that never happened to me. I don't know why my parents had me. I have no parents, no family, I have a few friends but they aren't really in my vicinity so I am completely alone. I just think that there is nobody out there for me, and that I should just end my life because the idea of being alone for the rest of my life sounds torturous to me...

And before you say, "be around black people" I don't know why, but I have such an aversion to that. Im sorry, I am sick and tired of my race being the underlying cause to all my problems. Its like a big fat label to the point that people don't see me for me.

They just see me as just the black girl. Im tired of it, im tired of everything just being about my race. I never chose to come to this country I came here by my parents choice and now I have to face all this shit because of it. If black women are so undesirable in the west then why didn't they just leave me back "where I am really from" even if my quality of life was bad my ignorance to the rest of the world would have made me a lot happier.
 
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I honestly can relate to this post a lot. coming to America was a hard adjustment, especially because others see me as a gross immigrant. Being around others that share my culture has helped me adjust so much. I know you said you have an aversion to it but i do think it would help a bit.. its hard but try talking to people without having the preconceived notion that everyone is put off by your race. I have a heavy accent so i would avoid talking to people in America because i was afraid of what they would think, its the same with your race. Most people do not care about those things, and the few that do dont matter. Dark skin is beautiful, so i think the problem is that you don't like your own race
 
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I relate to what you are going through. I'm merely mixed race but being in Australia has left me in a cultural no-man's-land where there's no particular place where I fit in. Being different is always an elephant in the room.

Having left behind my abusive family, I still carry trauma and struggle with appropriate boundaries. The dream of ever being loved is quickly fading.
 
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I find your life story shocking. It may be that you had to overcome several hurdles at the same time because you had to mediate between the two worlds. I also read a statistic that said black women had the hardest time finding a boyfriend.
 
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In which part of the UK are you located? I'm from germany but I have connections to black communities (don't ask me why) they can probably help you, in several things. If you give some details I can ask around if they can arrange something.
 
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Unfortunately you've been around a sea of people who are not patient enough to really get to know someone.
 
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They just see me as just the black girl. Im tired of it, im tired of everything just being about my race. I never chose to come to this country I came here by my parents choice and now I have to face all this shit because of it. If black women are so undesirable in the west then why didn't they just leave me back "where I am really from" even if my quality of life was bad my ignorance to the rest of the world would have made me a lot happier.
Are you in a poor part of the UK? It can be particularly bad there, because racism is yet another divide and conquer tactic by elites. Very effective: even youtube trolls use it to promote infighting here: older against younger, recoverers vs mortalists, women against men

If so, you might be rather safer in a wealthier part of the UK. Getting spat on in the streets sounds like the prelude to something really bad, especially if the economy's getting worse. You don't have to be part of a black community to benefit from its moderating presence in a region

Racism is pseudoscience that was considered weird until it became useful to slavers, to counter attacks from freedom loving europeans. Elites still find it useful to redirect anger that'd otherwise target them. Which means you'll bear the brunt of that rage. It's a form of snobbery and fear that poor and unhappy people are trained to have
 
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canyouseeme

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I honestly can relate to this post a lot. coming to America was a hard adjustment, especially because others see me as a gross immigrant. Being around others that share my culture has helped me adjust so much. I know you said you have an aversion to it but i do think it would help a bit.. its hard but try talking to people without having the preconceived notion that everyone is put off by your race. I have a heavy accent so i would avoid talking to people in America because i was afraid of what they would think, its the same with your race. Most people do not care about those things, and the few that do dont matter. Dark skin is beautiful, so i think the problem is that you don't like your own race
I understand, I have been around black people even in my parents country who have rejected me for being "different". And I have been far removed from black communities that I am not sure if they are going to be sympathetic. Just because you think dark skin is beautiful doesn't change the racism and hate surrounding black people. Im glad you had these experiences of people not caring, I really do but you can't speak for everyone can you?

I think you're trying to help. But essentially this post is just invalidating my experiences and saying oh I hate my race and thats the route of all my problems. Taking away the abuse and hate I have faced in my life which may in fact resulted in the resentment to my race. Empathy and sensitivity would be greatly appreciated. Im tired...
I relate to what you are going through. I'm merely mixed race but being in Australia has left me in a cultural no-man's-land where there's no particular place where I fit in. Being different is always an elephant in the room.

Having left behind my abusive family, I still carry trauma and struggle with appropriate boundaries. The dream of ever being loved is quickly fading.

Im really sorry. I hope that this post brings somewhat some comfort that you aren't alone in this. I hope in the midst of the fading hope that the love you seek will come to you...
I find your life story shocking. It may be that you had to overcome several hurdles at the same time because you had to mediate between the two worlds. I also read a statistic that said black women had the hardest time finding a boyfriend.
Yes. It is has been so hard you wouldn't imagine... I honestly just want the pain to end so be it :'(
In which part of the UK are you located? I'm from germany but I have connections to black communities (don't ask me why) they can probably help you, in several things. If you give some details I can ask around if they can arrange something.
I really don't want to say my location because its majorty white and I would be easily doxxed I think... but thank you for trying :')
Are you in a poor part of the UK? It can be particularly bad there, because racism is yet another divide and conquer tactic by elites. Very effective: even youtube trolls use it to promote infighting here: older against younger, recoverers vs mortalists, women against men

If so, you might be rather safer in a wealthier part of the UK. Getting spat on in the streets sounds like the prelude to something really bad, especially if the economy's getting worse. You don't have to be part of a black community to benefit from its moderating presence in a region

Racism is pseudoscience that was considered weird until it became useful to slavers, to counter attacks from freedom loving europeans. Elites still find it useful to redirect anger that'd otherwise target them. Which means you'll bear the brunt of that rage. It's a form of snobbery and fear that poor and unhappy people are trained to have
Yes I get exactly what you are saying and completely agree. This tactic is quite prevalent in the UK considering the current ruling party.

Surprisingly where I live is extremely safer than for example London. Sure there is still anti-social crime but really its safe here. My issue is my social life and social standing here. And it has been very difficult for me.
 
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hi there! firstly, i want to say that that damn. your life sucks. you have drawn so many shitty straws in life. i'm sorry. life is unfair, but you know this. sounds like most people wouldn't be able to handle walking a single day in your shoes. you have lived a hard life, and you don't deserve it. but i'm sure you know this too.

i can relate a little. i'm not black, but i'm woman of color myself. i'm a transracial adoptee (basically, i'm a person of color and my adoptive parents are white). i've been accused of acting white, as if there is any other way i can act. i was raised in a fully white, christian, conservative community. i never even had a chance to connect with my culture. i will forever be a person of color to white people, but not "enough" of a person of color for my racial group. i don't really feel like there are a lot of communities i can fit in. i get it, in that regard, being reduced down to labels, yet not really fitting with the label. i didn't choose my country, either.

your perspective on the world, your story - it resonates with me. your post made me feel a bit seen, and i appreciate that.
 
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hi there! firstly, i want to say that that damn. your life sucks. you have drawn so many shitty straws in life. i'm sorry. life is unfair, but you know this. sounds like most people wouldn't be able to handle walking a single day in your shoes. you have lived a hard life, and you don't deserve it. but i'm sure you know this too.

i can relate a little. i'm not black, but i'm woman of color myself. i'm a transracial adoptee (basically, i'm a person of color and my adoptive parents are white). i've been accused of acting white, as if there is any other way i can act. i was raised in a fully white, christian, conservative community. i never even had a chance to connect with my culture. i will forever be a person of color to white people, but not "enough" of a person of color for my racial group. i don't really feel like there are a lot of communities i can fit in. i get it, in that regard, being reduced down to labels, yet not really fitting with the label. i didn't choose my country, either.

your perspective on the world, your story - it resonates with me. your post made me feel a bit seen, and i appreciate that.
Most people I tell my story to can not even comprehend the hurt I feel. Usually they are just insensitive and say "well you're life isn't that bad" or they just get awkward and pretend that they didn't hear it. I think I've only had one person that had such a adverse reaction like you. And you know what... thank you.

I think you're reaction gives me comfort, in a sense that I am dealing with something that is so hard.

The worst thing is that people are just so cruel. Mental health issues can be caused from tragedies... I've heard many people just call me crazy or self-hater and are not sympathetic at all.

So thank you for your kind response. Im glad that this resonates with you... even if other people see it as controversial. And yes I think we have similar experiences... all I can say that humans are shitty, regardless of colour.
 
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doesn't change the racism and hate surrounding black people. Im glad you had these experiences of people not caring, I really do but you can't speak for everyone can you?

I think you're trying to help. But essentially this post is just invalidating my experiences and saying oh I hate my race and thats the route of all my problems. Taking away the abuse and hate I have faced in my life which may in fact resulted in the resentment to my race. Empathy and sensitivity would be greatly appreciated. Im tired...
I'm very sorry if my post came off as rude and insensitive. that's not what I meant for it to be at all. I'm very sorry you had to but up with an immense amount of abuse and hate. I was just trying to give you a positive outlook (idk if this is the right word to use) on a terrible situation.