ibuiltit

ibuiltit

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Aug 7, 2023
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Like, all you ever hear is like don't do it but like why? Like what abt living is so great that I can't ctb. The only reason I haven't ctb yet is bc I'd feel bad if I did. I don't see the point in living when life is practically guaranteed to be terrible. What's the point
 
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nadia225

nadia225

journey to reach the light
Aug 18, 2023
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I mean it is all about perspective if you feel as though there is no way to overcome yourself and you are headset on that narrative about life then yes that is all you we get in return is proof that life is terrible and people are terrible. I've learned to actually enjoy life and the beauty it brings is to recognize yourself and the negative traits we carry around that make us look at life in a fogged lense whether that be from past trauma,bad experiences, or indoctrination from individuals to truly enjoy what life has to bring is separate that from ourselves and let go of all of that. It truly is beautiful but it takes work and acceptance to see such. I call it soul searching the more you do it learn to release and analyze yourself the more you will start to break out of the negative hinderances and detach from the people you see around you, it takes a lot of energy and a lot of fighting with yourself but it becomes worth it at the end because it makes life a little more bearable then before.

That's just the way I view it…coming from a person that wants to cbt soon so it may not change your prospective but I hope these words widens your perspective a tad bit.
 
notverylucid

notverylucid

Truth is... the game was rigged from the start
Aug 18, 2023
66
The way I see it, eventually we all will die, some sooner and others much later, but all the same outcome. So if you have any unfinished business or anything you really want to do, why not see it through, whether it's worth it or not you'll at least know and have that peace of mind to carry with yourself if you ever so decide to ctb. If it is worth it, then maybe you'll even see a gradual change in your perspective and overall approach on life. In the end, it's up to you to decide whether you feel like it's truly pointless or something worth considering. I hope I could give you a little food for thought.
 
MrDarkness

MrDarkness

Left sasu, to improve my life
Jun 18, 2023
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Life is a gamble, it can either become better or worse, unless your born extremely lucky, we are all going to face hardships
 
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drownll

drownll

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Jul 7, 2023
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Off topic sorry but are you currently playing BG3? How is it going do you enjoy it?
I really want to play this game i loved DOS2 but have 0 money, I think i'm gonna pirate it, then maybe buy it later if I manage to work again.
 
SolomonKado

SolomonKado

This is taking too long…
Jul 4, 2023
424
Like, all you ever hear is like don't do it but like why? Like what abt living is so great that I can't ctb. The only reason I haven't ctb yet is bc I'd feel bad if I did. I don't see the point in living when life is practically guaranteed to be terrible. What's the point
The going conversation I get is "it will get better" and "just give it time." Even though there is a percentage that do and a percentage that don't. It's not 100% so them saying that might as well be a lie.
 
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ibuiltit

ibuiltit

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Aug 7, 2023
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Off topic sorry but are you currently playing BG3? How is it going do you enjoy it?
I really want to play this game i loved DOS2 but have 0 money, I think i'm gonna pirate it, then maybe buy it later if I manage to work again.
I am currently playing it and it's very good, a very good video game adaptation of dnd, imo. I would reccomend pirating it from fitgirl, that's where I got it, anyway.
 
drownll

drownll

Student
Jul 7, 2023
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The going conversation I get is "it will get better" and "just give it time." Even though there is a percentage that do and a percentage that don't. It's not 100% so them saying that might as well be a lie.
I believed those word, multiple times, I always said to myself "it can't get worse than that, it will get better for sure I just have to bear and wait". And as a result, it only got worse.
Fuck this life seriously, sometimes it's just luck, some people are born with everything and others are born to suffer. It's just luck. We hear stories about people who became successful and happy but it's just survival bias, most people whos life starts shitty, it will always be shitty.
 
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ibuiltit

ibuiltit

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The going conversation I get is "it will get better" and "just give it time." Even though there is a percentage that do and a percentage that don't. It's not 100% so them saying that might as well be a lie.
I've been waiting 3 years for it to get better, and at times it does, but never for long and it always gets worse again.
 
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drownll

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Jul 7, 2023
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I am currently playing it and it's very good, a very good video game adaptation of dnd, imo. I would reccomend pirating it from fitgirl, that's where I got it, anyway.
Oh I use to pirate from this site too, I have a shitty internet it will take an entire day lol
Can't wait to play it
 
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Portapous

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Aug 17, 2023
3
Life is incredibly complicated and, I hate to say it, but there are no one answer. But this is what I've gathered so far.

1: The most obvious bit, you don't want to die. You have this primal urge to carry on. That's sort of the so obvious reason lol.
2: The world does a pretty good job of telling you that if you don't do society things, all hell will break loose. If you don't work you'll be nobody, if you don't go to school you'll be stupid, if you don't clean you'll be a slob, etc. But, the fact is, people fuck up all the time and if fucking up was really as bad as society said it is, well it'd be pretty damn unsustainable. So know that it's okay to relax, take a step back, and REALLY evaluate yourself and your life. You're safe. There's no danger lurking around the corner, there's no lion currently hunting you. All that fear is fabrication. It's okay to breath, I promise. It's okay to relax. All this anxiety, the self-consciousness, this mask you have to wear all the time, the imposter syndrome, all of it is so heavy and burdensome and sometimes you look out the window and think jumping off the cliff is the only solution but what you really want is some room to breath. Give that to yourself, please, you need it. Snuggle up, maybe by a loved one, and know you're okay.
3: People love you. I know it's stupid to say because you've heard that a billion times but trust me, you really are completing people right now and, if you leave, all that goes away.
There are also people who feel very similar to what you're feeling. Maybe for different reasons, but they're hurting. And most people don't make it out alive. That's scary, I know cuz I'm there. But, for whatever reason, I can see there's purpose out there. In this vast darkness, the uncertainty of life clouded by a thick dust of depression I start to wonder how many people can survive this horror and discover these unheard of lands. That sounded overly poetic lol, I know. But think of it like a voyage. Adventures can't discover new land unless they explore the unknown, they can't fulfil their purpose in life unless they take the next step. I don't know if you're religious or what, but if you are, God put you on this path because it's difficult and SOMEBODY needs to do it. That somebody has to be you. You're a voyager, an explorer, a conqueror of the worst possible kind of monster, the human psyche. They say heroes are those who die for a cause, but you're beyond brave. Most people SEEK death if they're put in your shoes, and yet you continue to fight. The idea that if somebody was put in your shoes during the peak of your depression they'd instantly kill themselves speaks volumes on your perseverance. You have actual battle scars that you should be proud of.
4: The growth that you're capable of after surviving this treacherous journey is way more than most people. The wisdom you can carry is...well...I don't know. Nobody has made it that far. So make it out for the rest of us.
 
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Captive_Mind515

Captive_Mind515

King or street sweeper, dance with grim reaper!
Jul 18, 2023
433
I mean it is all about perspective if you feel as though there is no way to overcome yourself and you are headset on that narrative about life then yes that is all you we get in return is proof that life is terrible and people are terrible. I've learned to actually enjoy life and the beauty it brings is to recognize yourself and the negative traits we carry around that make us look at life in a fogged lense whether that be from past trauma,bad experiences, or indoctrination from individuals to truly enjoy what life has to bring is separate that from ourselves and let go of all of that. It truly is beautiful but it takes work and acceptance to see such. I call it soul searching the more you do it learn to release and analyze yourself the more you will start to break out of the negative hinderances and detach from the people you see around you, it takes a lot of energy and a lot of fighting with yourself but it becomes worth it at the end because it makes life a little more bearable then before.

That's just the way I view it…coming from a person that wants to cbt soon so it may not change your prospective but I hope these words widens your perspective a tad bit.

Become detached from reality? Yeah, that's a fairly common defence mechanism for dealing with the harsh and brutal aspects of our existence.

Not everyone is able to pull this off though. And really, a true appraisal of life should include everything - not just the bits you like/enjoy. Calling life "truly beautiful" while attempting to "detach" from certain elements, is somewhat of blinkered perspective.
 
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Portapous

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Aug 17, 2023
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The going conversation I get is "it will get better" and "just give it time." Even though there is a percentage that do and a percentage that don't. It's not 100% so them saying that might as well be a lie.
It won't just get better, do not give it time. You have to make it better yourself. The going conversation is bland a unhelpful because most people don't know what it's like to feel this way. That doesn't mean there's not an answer, it just means nobody knows it or nobody can find it. So take a deep dive, explore the darkest parts of your psyche, and find the answer. Just don't forget about the rest of us, please. Whatever the answer is, it's probably not very intuitive and certainly won't come from your own depressive state. So don't listen to it, look beyond it.
 
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scimmed

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Aug 16, 2023
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Like, all you ever hear is like don't do it but like why? Like what abt living is so great that I can't ctb. The only reason I haven't ctb yet is bc I'd feel bad if I did. I don't see the point in living when life is practically guaranteed to be terrible. What's the point
It may seem, feel or be terrible. There is always light. I struggles for years, cutting and hating life. The best thing anyone can do is just march on. A quote from $uicideboy$ that I love is "when life gets hard, keep on marching on, even if the finish lines far or you have to push the car" there are people and places you are yet to meet, things to do. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you want to provate message me please do
 
nadia225

nadia225

journey to reach the light
Aug 18, 2023
89
Become detached from reality? Yeah, that's a fairly common defence mechanism for dealing with the harsh and brutal aspects of our existence.

Not everyone is able to pull this off though. And really, a true appraisal of life should include everything - not just the bits you like/enjoy. Calling life "truly beautiful" while attempting "detach" from certain elements, is somewhat of blinkered perspective.
It's not becoming detached from reality it is simply accepting reality for what it is, happiness is a fleeting desire it's all about becoming content with yourself and your reality. The concept of releasing yourself that I'm mentioning is detaching from certain sectors of your ego, this is accepting it. Which is very hard to achieve this and it takes alot of self analyzing recognizing that some sections of your being is to be ulitized for self development while other parts that are non desirable and destructive need to also be recognized and reconciled since you can't get "rid of it" but you can choose what you want to identify with (I.e being called stupid your whole life and succumbing to that ideation or overcoming it by recognizing that those were experiences that shaped negatively in a subconscious way and learning to convert those experiences and creating a layer of detachment away from such) it is extremely difficult to do so and that is why majority of people are lost because we tend by human nature to let these things consume our existence which ultimately hinders us and create a very very limited view on the world and ourselves because we lose control. Im not saying it is easy to do this and life doesn't suck it does because there is always going to be hellish experiences within life. the journey never ends you have to work hard for it. That's is the reason why the world it is the way it is now because nobody wants to do that or even recognize themselves because it is very painful to look in the mirror and confront those dark demons that lie within and accept that shit and take a path of sovereignty. So in return we create more suffering and more cycles for others to suffer making it nearly impossible to have any growth to better a person and a better world. That's just my perspective it may be flawed and I don't believe life and our existence is sugar and cupcakes because it isn't but that's part of the experience choosing choices that we lead to our contentment within.
 
Captive_Mind515

Captive_Mind515

King or street sweeper, dance with grim reaper!
Jul 18, 2023
433
It may seem, feel or be terrible. There is always light. I struggles for years, cutting and hating life. The best thing anyone can do is just march on. A quote from $uicideboy$ that I love is "when life gets hard, keep on marching on, even if the finish lines far or you have to push the car" there are people and places you are yet to meet, things to do. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If you want to provate message me please do

Sounds like pro-life fairytale garbage!
It's not becoming detached from reality it is simply accepting reality for what it is, happiness is a fleeting desire it's all about becoming content with yourself and your reality. The concept of releasing yourself that I'm mentioning is detaching from certain sectors of your ego, this is accepting it. Which is very hard to achieve this and it takes alot of self analyzing recognizing that some sections of your being is to be ulitized for self development while other parts that are non desirable and destructive need to also be recognized and reconciled since you can't get "rid of it" but you can choose what you want to identify with (I.e being called stupid your whole life and succumbing to that ideation or overcoming it by recognizing that those were experiences that shaped negatively in a subconscious way and learning to convert those experiences and creating a layer of detachment away from such) it is extremely difficult to do so and that is why majority of people are lost because we tend by human nature to let these things consume our existence which ultimately hinders us and create a very very limited view on the world and ourselves because we lose control. Im not saying it is easy to do this and life doesn't suck it does because there is always going to be hellish experiences within life. the journey never ends you have to work hard for it. That's is the reason why the world it is the way it is now because nobody wants to do that or even recognize themselves because it is very painful to look in the mirror and confront those dark demons that lie within and accept that shit and take a path of sovereignty. So in return we create more suffering and more cycles for others to suffer making it nearly impossible to have any growth to better a person and a better world. That's just my perspective it may be flawed and I don't believe life and our existence is sugar and cupcakes because it isn't but that's part of the experience choosing choices that we lead to our contentment within.

The sort of detachment you're describing, never really works in the long run. Life always finds a way to enter any closed door, even a self imposed one.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
9,883
I think the majority of people here won't be able to give you an answer. Many people here also don't hold with the whole 'life is precious', 'things will get better' mantra. It's presumably pro-lifers that have said all that to you. Do you ever ask them what they enjoy so much about life? How they get through the bad times? Have they ever gotten so low that they didn't want to go on? What made them continue?

Most people here won't tell you you HAVE to live. Most of us are pro-choice. Some people find more joy in life than others but I'm not convinced you can teach someone to be happy. Lol. Life's full of boring practicalities as well. I feel sure that at least some of us would feel happier if certain needs were met- financial, health, emotional. But- life takes work- A LOT OF WORK. I think many of us have simply come to the conclusion that the ideal situation is impossible and the best case scenario likely won't be worth the effort.
 
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アホペンギン

アホペンギン

Jul 10, 2023
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There is infinite potential for immense suffering in this world, its guaranteed. Regardless of how perfect your life has been so far. Many people consider suicidal people as mentally unstable and that they should get help or something and when they ctb people'll miss us so this is one of the external factors stopping us from finally ctb.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,938
I've never been able to understand the whole anti-suicide mindset, it just comes across as people blinded by delusions, I literally cannot take it seriously, I've never been able to get what is supposedly so "good" about life and why other people worship it so much to the point that these insensitive and harmful delusions get pushed onto other people.

It repulses me when people label life as being "beautiful" as to me existence is nothing more than a futile and unnecessary cycle of senseless cruelty and endless suffering, existence just causes harm and only leads to suffering and decay. There's nothing appealing about decaying from age in an existence I never even really wanted to endure in the first place, only non-existence appeals to me, it's comforting the thought of being completely unaware for all eternity.
I simply don't see existence as being worth enduring and regardless of the circumstances permanent non-existence will always be preferable for me, I could never see any benefit to existing, it's tiresome and pointless, it repluses me how there is unlimited potential to suffer as long as one exists here.

It's always valid preferring the sound of eternal sleep to suffering in an existence we were so unnecessarily burdened with in the first place, it isn't like anyone is obligated to continue existing until they die anyway.
 

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