Discussion Why N over SN?

[Mariomcfly]

Why do people choose N over SN? N is much harder to get and cost way more for what seems to the same. They both seem to a quick and painless way almost the same.

 

[reapandsow918]

N is the holy grail for suicide. Just puts you to sleep and your problems go away. Really expensive though.

 

[Mariomcfly]

N is the holy grail for suicide. Just puts you to sleep and your problems go away. Really expensive though.

Doesn't SN essentiali do the same? Just takes a few more steps.

 

[jgm63]

With N you fall asleep very quickly, e.g. within 3 minutes.
With SN I think it takes a bit longer to lose consciousness, perhaps 15 or 20 minutes.

I suggest doing some reading up.
There's already a vast amount of information on this site.
The "search" function on this site is very useful.

 

[Ark]

N is quicker and easier with less possible side effects. Now, that does not mean SN is not a good choice. SN is a good choice also, just N is a step up in all regards besides price.

 

[Azzy69]

What is the full name for N? Anyone?

 

[Qbert]

Nembutal

 

[Ark]

Or Pentobarbital. Nembutal is the brand name but has stuck as the common name.

 

[Azzy69]

thanks all

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I wish there were videos of people zonking out on SN. It's hard to trust in the peacefulness otherwise. But okay. People have been drowning themselves in rivers for centuries so I guess it'll have to do :-(

 

[TheLastGoodbye]

Supposedly SN makes your skin turn blue, if you care about something like that. I haven't heard the same about N.

 

[jgm63]

Supposedly SN makes your skin turn blue, if you care about something like that. I haven't heard the same about N.

Yes, I suppose with N there would be a greater possibility of it appearing to be a natural death, assuming you covered your tracks and didn't leave a note, etc, although I don't know the details, or whether the sort of checks that would be done would detect the N or not, or whether they would do more detailed checks when the first checks didn't find anything, etc etc, so more research would be needed to check how valid this point is...

 

[DepressionsAHo]

Yes, I suppose with N there would be a greater possibility of it appearing to be a natural death, assuming you covered your tracks and didn't leave a note, etc, although I don't know the details, or whether the sort of checks that would be done would detect the N or not, or whether they would do more detailed checks when the first checks didn't find anything, etc etc, so more research would be needed to check how valid this point is...

N is detectable In a 10 panel drug test

 

[jgm63]

N is detectable In a 10 panel drug test

ok, but do you know under what circumstances such a test would be performed ?

 

[Jean4]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

 

[DepressionsAHo]

ok, but do you know under what circumstances such a test would be performed ?

They only use 10 panel drug tests in something like government jobs. In the case of a coroner, they would do it if you came back clean after an initial 5 panel test.

 

[jgm63]

They only use 10 panel drug tests in something like government jobs. In the case of a coroner, they would do it if you came back clean after an initial 5 panel test.

Thanks.... Ok, so based on what you've said, trying to appear to have had a natural death when taking N might be unrealistic.... Unless in some situations they "wouldn't bother" with the 10 panel test for some reason ? but don't know when that might apply ? If you have any more insights on that please share of course....

 

[DepressionsAHo]

Thanks.... Ok, so based on what you've said, trying to appear to have had a natural death when taking N might be unrealistic.... Unless in some situations they "wouldn't bother" with the 10 panel test for some reason ? but don't know when that might apply ? If you have any more insights on that please share of course....

Ok so
For me. I have chronic pain. It means I take opiate pain medication to help me with that pain. On my body, I have no signs of trauma, so they assume I overdosed. They just dont know what on. They do the 5 panel drug test (these are the most common drugs people can overdose on) I come back positive for opiates. They test how much opiates I have in my system, they realize it's not enough, they do a 10 panel drug test
If I have enough opiates in my system, they dont do the 10 panel drug test, they assume I overdosed on opiates and that's case closed but also not really plausible.
You take enough opiates they're gonna make you puke up your n or puke up the opiates or pass the fuck out

Either way, you're gonna get found out

 

[Heart of Ice]

Honestly, sometimes I wonder the same. From what I've read, the only things that seem to make SN really inferior is the risk of vomiting, which is not that big of a deal considering:

• you can minimize the chance of that happening with antiemetics and by fasting
• vomiting doesn't even mean your attempt will automatically fail
• you could vomit up Nembutal as well, as you need more liquid and the taste is quite bitter, from user experience
• antiemetics are recommended for Nembutal as well

SN is also slower and has the chance of other symptoms, but the symptoms are either supposedly taken care of by the antiemetics (nausea, vomiting) or are so trivial you might as well reconsider suicide if they scare you (faster heartbeat, slight headache).

I understand that if you are dead-set on dying (that sounded bad) you want the "best" death possible, but honestly, the risks and absurd cost of Nembutal outweigh the slight benefits.

Spoiler: Controversial opinion, prepare to be offended

I still think cyanide might beat them both.

 

[Daniela]

Nembutal is illegal to own in several countries in Europe