Discussion Why lots of users here still try to CTB using clearly unreliable methods?

[MikUma]

I agree. It's the desperation in the moment. I took a large paracetamol OD knowing rationally that it could harm but likely would not kill me. But I did it anyway just in the hope that it would. I also tried to hang myself in the accident and emergency department where it was obvious I would be caught but got surprisingly far with that effort. It's just sheer desperation. For me at least. I have an almost foolproof method I could use but I'm too confused and exhausted to travel even a short distance. The depression and anxiety is making me want to die right now but also weirdly stopping me because it's taken all my energy. I would be completely lost without this site.

THIS!! i had everything planned, all my notes written, all my stuff done and ready for my ctb, but i was too .. i couldn't because it was like the procrastination when tou know you have to study, and you tell yourself to get up and study, but you cant. i dont know. but i know what you're ralking about, 100%.

 

[Dusk till dawn]

Peaceful methods such as fentanyl OD, SN, N, and etc are inaccessible, people also don't want to use brutal methods, SI kicks in when you attempt things like hanging or jumping off a bridge, however, unlike when you ingest something that's fatal, your SI usually won't be going crazy that you'd lose it, those unreliable methods are probably inefficient overdoses, the thing is, people are afraid of brutal methods, and efficient peaceful physically comfortable methods are not accessible/available

People are just trying to die peacefully without resorting to the train method, hanging, jumping off a high building, etc, while they don't have access to things like N and SN and fentanyl, that still won't deter them from trying unreliable methods so long as they're comfortable


And additionally, not every suicidal person has access to things like SaSu and the ppeh

The outcome due to these circumstances is some people attempting unreliable methods.

 

[UKscotty]

A mix of things in my experiences.

When at maximum suicidal thoughts, you just need it over ASAP, with whatever is close by to hand. Often we don't have much lethal stuff nearby.

Also, it takes a lot of mental energy to research, take proper notes, evaluate methods and then put it together, especially when we are likely under a lot of mental fog and slow brain processing.

That's why for me, it's important to keep informed and updated during the more lucid and clarity times. Having solid knowledge of a few decent methods means we are ready to go once the SI allows it.

 

[Fakefriendhate_Maxx]

To scared of needles

Maybe you can inject in muscle instead into a vein..

Peaceful methods such as fentanyl OD, SN, N, and etc are inaccessible, people also don't want to use brutal methods, SI kicks in when you attempt things like hanging or jumping off a bridge, however, unlike when you ingest something that's fatal, your SI usually won't be going crazy that you'd lose it, those unreliable methods are probably inefficient overdoses, the thing is, people are afraid of brutal methods, and efficient peaceful physically comfortable methods are not accessible/available

People are just trying to die peacefully without resorting to the train method, hanging, jumping off a high building, etc, while they don't have access to things like N and SN and fentanyl, that still won't deter them from trying unreliable methods so long as they're comfortable


And additionally, not every suicidal person has access to things like SaSu and the ppeh

The outcome due to these circumstances is some people attempting unreliable methods.

What is SI, i know SN, N, H and Fent but never heard of SI...

 

[lizzywizzy09]

Maybe you can inject in muscle instead into a vein..

What is SI, i know SN, N, H and Fent but never heard of SI...

Survival instinct.

 

[Forveleth]

Why can't you just get SN?

Many people can't "just get SN". Finding a legitimate seller can be difficult for those inexperienced at shopping somewhere other than a retail site. There is the issue of currency conversion and methods of payment. There is also an issue of shipping as not all countries accept international mail from all over the world. Also, users sometimes live with relatives/friends/housemates and their packages/mail are not private. This could land someone in an argument or even a psych hold if their package is discovered.

Many, many reasons you can't order SN like it's a charging cable from amazon.

Maybe you can inject in muscle instead into a vein..

Muscle or vein, this is still using a needle either way. As someone who also has a fear of needles, it doesn't matter where they go, I'm still bothered.

 

[voc_89]

Desperation, existential dread and the feeling of utter hopelessness can drive u into making rash decisions. For example, I remember reading about a guy in Englad how CTB by handcuffing himself to the sink and cutting off one of his hands. In the build up I think they said he tried seeking help for his depression. To no avail. And in the UK I think ctb is illegal. So yh that also adds to the problem as the person who does it has to make sure it works. Idk why they just don't make CTB legal and safe

 

[sevensquared]

I always see these people saying SN is easy to get. I have found it literally impossible

 

[MikUma]

I always see these people saying SN is easy to get. I have found it literally impossible

RIGHT??? like bro i have scoured everywhere (except the black market, i dont trust it very much) and couldnt find any within good price range and in 100 ml

 

[LostSoul1965]

RIGHT??? like bro i have scoured everywhere (except the black market, i dont trust it very much) and couldnt find any within good price range and in 100 ml

What do you mean 100 ml? Never seen it sold that way. Where are you located? It makes a difference but there are still SN sources out there.

 

[MikUma]

What do you mean 100 ml? Never seen it sold that way. Where are you located? It makes a difference but there are still SN sources out there.

ive lived in los angeles my whole life, but i was looking all online. everyone reccomends to buy sn in 100ml containers, but i cant find any that are both >98% and 100ml. i know you only need like 20-25ml to completely knockout though.

 

[LostSoul1965]

ive lived in los angeles my whole life, but i was looking all online. everyone reccomends to buy sn in 100ml containers, but i cant find any that are both >98% and 100ml. i know you only need like 20-25ml to completely knockout though.

Ah,I see. It is actually 100 grams. Not ml. That's what threw me off lol. Post,interact and get to know people on here. There are sources out there and someone may share eventually.

 

[DesperateOne]

With PPH free and easy to ready, why we still can find loads of users trying to CTB using totaly unreliable methods such as OD using Benzo or paracetamol OD or Sleeping Pills OD, CTB by police, hiring a hitman etc etc?

Fortunately Information here is free and all we need is less than 1 hour reading PPH in order to understand almost eveything related to methods that works and methods that wont work.

Reliable? Maaaybe. Quick and painless? Nah. SN can have some pretty terrifying symptoms and there have been reports of it not working even with the recommended dose. Besides, SN stops oxygen coming to the brain, which will most likely leave you with brain damage if it doesn't work. Jumping is probably gonna kill me, but is it 100% and fast? Idk... There have been people who survived great falls and then died slowly and painfully. Hanging? Pretty much 100%, but apparently you can be suspended up in the air for minutes choking to death with terror that can't be described. There is no reliable and painless method.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Because intelligence isn't equally distributed. It's why I believe everyone should have a good method in mind in case their life goes to shit. Thinking of a method when you've just lost your job and are going to be evicted is very stressful

 

[MikUma]

Ah,I see. It is actually 100 grams. Not ml. That's what threw me off lol. Post,interact and get to know people on here. There are sources out there and someone may share eventually.

WAIT MB HAHA IDK WHERE I GOT ML FROM BRO but yeah i meant grams LMAOAOAO but yh ty

 

[bitofftoomuch]

Others have made good points but I'll add that pills/poisoning isn't palatable for everyone. Even the "good" methods are a bit of a slow crawl to death. for instance I would struggle with SN because the regimen gives me a day to opt out, and even when ingesting there's 30 minutes of just waiting. wanting to go out in a flash is a lot more appealing, even if those methods are harder to come by. And thinking about finding them is something hopeful to do.

 

[idontfeellikeimreal]

I agree. It's the desperation in the moment. I took a large paracetamol OD knowing rationally that it could harm but likely would not kill me. But I did it anyway just in the hope that it would. I also tried to hang myself in the accident and emergency department where it was obvious I would be caught but got surprisingly far with that effort. It's just sheer desperation. For me at least. I have an almost foolproof method I could use but I'm too confused and exhausted to travel even a short distance. The depression and anxiety is making me want to die right now but also weirdly stopping me because it's taken all my energy. I would be completely lost without this site.

I totally agree, I have taken so many pills trying to OD, just because I was so desperate. You will try with whatever is near you, if you are desperate enough and don't have energy for anything else

 

[ninfanatic]

With PPH free and easy to ready, why we still can find loads of users trying to CTB using totaly unreliable methods such as OD using Benzo or paracetamol OD or Sleeping Pills OD, CTB by police, hiring a hitman etc etc?

Fortunately Information here is free and all we need is less than 1 hour reading PPH in order to understand almost eveything related to methods that works and methods that wont work.

I'd presume it's mostly desperation and/or a sense of urgency. We all are working with/under different circumstances.