MikUma

MikUma

certified red flag
Dec 7, 2023
56
I agree. It's the desperation in the moment. I took a large paracetamol OD knowing rationally that it could harm but likely would not kill me. But I did it anyway just in the hope that it would. I also tried to hang myself in the accident and emergency department where it was obvious I would be caught but got surprisingly far with that effort. It's just sheer desperation. For me at least. I have an almost foolproof method I could use but I'm too confused and exhausted to travel even a short distance. The depression and anxiety is making me want to die right now but also weirdly stopping me because it's taken all my energy. I would be completely lost without this site.
THIS!! i had everything planned, all my notes written, all my stuff done and ready for my ctb, but i was too .. i couldn't because it was like the procrastination when tou know you have to study, and you tell yourself to get up and study, but you cant. i dont know. but i know what you're ralking about, 100%.
 
  • Hugs
Reactions: Forveleth
Dusk till dawn

Dusk till dawn

Student
Sep 7, 2018
198
Peaceful methods such as fentanyl OD, SN, N, and etc are inaccessible, people also don't want to use brutal methods, SI kicks in when you attempt things like hanging or jumping off a bridge, however, unlike when you ingest something that's fatal, your SI usually won't be going crazy that you'd lose it, those unreliable methods are probably inefficient overdoses, the thing is, people are afraid of brutal methods, and efficient peaceful physically comfortable methods are not accessible/available

People are just trying to die peacefully without resorting to the train method, hanging, jumping off a high building, etc, while they don't have access to things like N and SN and fentanyl, that still won't deter them from trying unreliable methods so long as they're comfortable


And additionally, not every suicidal person has access to things like SaSu and the ppeh

The outcome due to these circumstances is some people attempting unreliable methods.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: ijustwishtodie, Praestat_Mori, Forveleth and 1 other person
U

UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,450
A mix of things in my experiences.

When at maximum suicidal thoughts, you just need it over ASAP, with whatever is close by to hand. Often we don't have much lethal stuff nearby.

Also, it takes a lot of mental energy to research, take proper notes, evaluate methods and then put it together, especially when we are likely under a lot of mental fog and slow brain processing.

That's why for me, it's important to keep informed and updated during the more lucid and clarity times. Having solid knowledge of a few decent methods means we are ready to go once the SI allows it.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: unnamed2, Forveleth, TiredOfAllThis and 1 other person
F

Fakefriendhate_Maxx

I just hope my death makes more sense than my life
May 18, 2024
122
To scared of needles
Maybe you can inject in muscle instead into a vein..
Peaceful methods such as fentanyl OD, SN, N, and etc are inaccessible, people also don't want to use brutal methods, SI kicks in when you attempt things like hanging or jumping off a bridge, however, unlike when you ingest something that's fatal, your SI usually won't be going crazy that you'd lose it, those unreliable methods are probably inefficient overdoses, the thing is, people are afraid of brutal methods, and efficient peaceful physically comfortable methods are not accessible/available

People are just trying to die peacefully without resorting to the train method, hanging, jumping off a high building, etc, while they don't have access to things like N and SN and fentanyl, that still won't deter them from trying unreliable methods so long as they're comfortable


And additionally, not every suicidal person has access to things like SaSu and the ppeh

The outcome due to these circumstances is some people attempting unreliable methods.
What is SI, i know SN, N, H and Fent but never heard of SI...
 
F

Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
839
Why can't you just get SN?
Many people can't "just get SN". Finding a legitimate seller can be difficult for those inexperienced at shopping somewhere other than a retail site. There is the issue of currency conversion and methods of payment. There is also an issue of shipping as not all countries accept international mail from all over the world. Also, users sometimes live with relatives/friends/housemates and their packages/mail are not private. This could land someone in an argument or even a psych hold if their package is discovered.

Many, many reasons you can't order SN like it's a charging cable from amazon.
Maybe you can inject in muscle instead into a vein..
Muscle or vein, this is still using a needle either way. As someone who also has a fear of needles, it doesn't matter where they go, I'm still bothered.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nrocoop and divinemistress36
voc_89

voc_89

Experienced
Apr 10, 2023
237
Desperation, existential dread and the feeling of utter hopelessness can drive u into making rash decisions. For example, I remember reading about a guy in Englad how CTB by handcuffing himself to the sink and cutting off one of his hands. In the build up I think they said he tried seeking help for his depression. To no avail. And in the UK I think ctb is illegal. So yh that also adds to the problem as the person who does it has to make sure it works. Idk why they just don't make CTB legal and safe
 
  • Like
Reactions: divinemistress36 and Forveleth
S

sevensquared

Member
Apr 20, 2024
6
I always see these people saying SN is easy to get. I have found it literally impossible
 
  • Like
Reactions: black.dahlia, msesis, MikUma and 1 other person
MikUma

MikUma

certified red flag
Dec 7, 2023
56
I always see these people saying SN is easy to get. I have found it literally impossible
RIGHT??? like bro i have scoured everywhere (except the black market, i dont trust it very much) and couldnt find any within good price range and in 100 ml
 
  • Like
Reactions: Forveleth
L

LostSoul1965

Mage
Apr 15, 2024
558
RIGHT??? like bro i have scoured everywhere (except the black market, i dont trust it very much) and couldnt find any within good price range and in 100 ml
What do you mean 100 ml? Never seen it sold that way. Where are you located? It makes a difference but there are still SN sources out there.
 
MikUma

MikUma

certified red flag
Dec 7, 2023
56
What do you mean 100 ml? Never seen it sold that way. Where are you located? It makes a difference but there are still SN sources out there.
ive lived in los angeles my whole life, but i was looking all online. everyone reccomends to buy sn in 100ml containers, but i cant find any that are both >98% and 100ml. i know you only need like 20-25ml to completely knockout though.
 
L

LostSoul1965

Mage
Apr 15, 2024
558
ive lived in los angeles my whole life, but i was looking all online. everyone reccomends to buy sn in 100ml containers, but i cant find any that are both >98% and 100ml. i know you only need like 20-25ml to completely knockout though.
Ah,I see. It is actually 100 grams. Not ml. That's what threw me off lol. Post,interact and get to know people on here. There are sources out there and someone may share eventually.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Forveleth and MikUma
DesperateOne

DesperateOne

Specialist
May 25, 2023
318
With PPH free and easy to ready, why we still can find loads of users trying to CTB using totaly unreliable methods such as OD using Benzo or paracetamol OD or Sleeping Pills OD, CTB by police, hiring a hitman etc etc?

Fortunately Information here is free and all we need is less than 1 hour reading PPH in order to understand almost eveything related to methods that works and methods that wont work.
Reliable? Maaaybe. Quick and painless? Nah. SN can have some pretty terrifying symptoms and there have been reports of it not working even with the recommended dose. Besides, SN stops oxygen coming to the brain, which will most likely leave you with brain damage if it doesn't work. Jumping is probably gonna kill me, but is it 100% and fast? Idk... There have been people who survived great falls and then died slowly and painfully. Hanging? Pretty much 100%, but apparently you can be suspended up in the air for minutes choking to death with terror that can't be described. There is no reliable and painless method.
 
Ambivalent1

Ambivalent1

🎵 Be all, end all 🎵
Apr 17, 2023
3,279
Because intelligence isn't equally distributed. It's why I believe everyone should have a good method in mind in case their life goes to shit. Thinking of a method when you've just lost your job and are going to be evicted is very stressful
 
MikUma

MikUma

certified red flag
Dec 7, 2023
56
Ah,I see. It is actually 100 grams. Not ml. That's what threw me off lol. Post,interact and get to know people on here. There are sources out there and someone may share eventually.
WAIT MB HAHA IDK WHERE I GOT ML FROM BRO but yeah i meant grams LMAOAOAO but yh ty
 
bitofftoomuch

bitofftoomuch

hold onto those who accept your messy self
Jul 1, 2024
148
Others have made good points but I'll add that pills/poisoning isn't palatable for everyone. Even the "good" methods are a bit of a slow crawl to death. for instance I would struggle with SN because the regimen gives me a day to opt out, and even when ingesting there's 30 minutes of just waiting. wanting to go out in a flash is a lot more appealing, even if those methods are harder to come by. And thinking about finding them is something hopeful to do.
 
idontfeellikeimreal

idontfeellikeimreal

Member
Aug 21, 2023
56
I agree. It's the desperation in the moment. I took a large paracetamol OD knowing rationally that it could harm but likely would not kill me. But I did it anyway just in the hope that it would. I also tried to hang myself in the accident and emergency department where it was obvious I would be caught but got surprisingly far with that effort. It's just sheer desperation. For me at least. I have an almost foolproof method I could use but I'm too confused and exhausted to travel even a short distance. The depression and anxiety is making me want to die right now but also weirdly stopping me because it's taken all my energy. I would be completely lost without this site.
I totally agree, I have taken so many pills trying to OD, just because I was so desperate. You will try with whatever is near you, if you are desperate enough and don't have energy for anything else
 
ninfanatic

ninfanatic

anorexic suicide messiah.
Jul 3, 2024
78
With PPH free and easy to ready, why we still can find loads of users trying to CTB using totaly unreliable methods such as OD using Benzo or paracetamol OD or Sleeping Pills OD, CTB by police, hiring a hitman etc etc?

Fortunately Information here is free and all we need is less than 1 hour reading PPH in order to understand almost eveything related to methods that works and methods that wont work.
I'd presume it's mostly desperation and/or a sense of urgency. We all are working with/under different circumstances.
 

Similar threads

justcallmeJ
Replies
15
Views
1K
Suicide Discussion
opheliaoveragain
opheliaoveragain
D
Replies
19
Views
692
Suicide Discussion
DOHARDTHINGS24
D
ctemourge
Replies
2
Views
135
Suicide Discussion
ctemourge
ctemourge
GalacticWarrior777
Replies
101
Views
7K
Suicide Discussion
GalacticWarrior777
GalacticWarrior777
ShatteredSerenity
Replies
6
Views
696
Suicide Discussion
Kbeau
K