Discussion Why isn't jumping a more popular method on here?

[TJuk]

100ft drop, during the fall 'wow this feeling is freeing, no pain, no struggles'

After impact, I'd hit water and wow did that hurt. I tried moving to the far side as I could see an ambulance, coastguard and lifeboat and police on the other side. There is a strong undercurrent where I was, apparently I shouldn't have survived but because annoyingly I'm a strong swimmer it didn't manage to take me under. Whilst in water I had no pain, when the lifeboat crew pulled me out wow the pain was unreal. 9 on pain scale infact I was in and out of consciousness, I was fighting the ambulance crew and lifeboat crew I remember none of that. I have a vague memory of waking up in resus and telling the police who tried to talk me down before I jumped coming an

That's harrowing, thank you for sharing. It's horrible that you have to suffer aftereffects. Are you thinking of attempting again, if so, would it be jumping again? Personally I really want to go but I'm too scared to ever try jumping. Wishing you peace.

Thanks I am thinking of attempting again yes, probably not jumping no. I can't risk it going wrong again

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

most tall buildings lock the door to the roof...

 

[Superdeterminist]

Thanks I am thinking of attempting again yes, probably not jumping no. I can't risk it going wrong again

We need voluntary euthanasia ASAP...These decisions shouldn't even be on the cards.

 

[TJuk]

We need voluntary euthanasia ASAP...These decisions shouldn't even be on the cards.

Itd be better than what currently suffering

 

[Thatdude]

There is several problems to jumping.

1. Lack of ability. I believe the far far far far majority of people who want to die literally have no way of jumping from a high place. Like many places simply don't have a high enough place to jump from. And many that do has suicide nets or lack of ability to get to the place. And keep in mind, most want to die painlessly and without being able to be brought back. Most places have water ways, but the bridges aren't high enough to die from impact, but high enough to cause serious damage. So dying due to drowning because your arms and legs are broken sounds like a bad way to go.
2. They don't want to mess someone up. Like you can jump in front of a train, car, etc. But you just forced the person to live with that for the rest of their life. Many times they were just doing their job which has nothing to do with seeing/messing with dead bodies or taking someone out.
3. Unsure. Like even if you did jump in front of a car or whatever, how fast does it have to go before you die? How can you tell if it is heavy and fast enough?
4. High chance of someone stopping you. Because you're in public.
5. It isn't really that peaceful to some. Like even if you died on impact, you have to keep in mind the person might not be comfortable with the area. I think many want to die in the place they are the most happy in, and this is why many picks their bedroom or some part of their house they spend a lot of time in.

We need voluntary euthanasia ASAP...These decisions shouldn't even be on the cards.

10000000% agree. I think if you are above a given age, you expressed your want to die for a year or so, and proved you tried to make your life better in a meaningful way but couldn't. Then you should be able to die peacefully with help of some clinic.

 

[Grey-zone]

I went to a bridge last week in my city to scope it out but the fact is that heights are fucking scary. Many people (including myself) can't stand them. When choosing a method, a person would want to go with the less frightening choice.

 

[Superdeterminist]

There is several problems to jumping.

1. Lack of ability. I believe the far far far far majority of people who want to die literally have no way of jumping from a high place. Like many places simply don't have a high enough place to jump from. And many that do has suicide nets or lack of ability to get to the place. And keep in mind, most want to die painlessly and without being able to be brought back. Most places have water ways, but the bridges aren't high enough to die from impact, but high enough to cause serious damage. So dying due to drowning because your arms and legs are broken sounds like a bad way to go.
2. They don't want to mess someone up. Like you can jump in front of a train, car, etc. But you just forced the person to live with that for the rest of their life. Many times they were just doing their job which has nothing to do with seeing/messing with dead bodies or taking someone out.
3. Unsure. Like even if you did jump in front of a car or whatever, how fast does it have to go before you die? How can you tell if it is heavy and fast enough?
4. High chance of someone stopping you. Because you're in public.
5. It isn't really that peaceful to some. Like even if you died on impact, you have to keep in mind the person might not be comfortable with the area. I think many want to die in the place they are the most happy in, and this is why many picks their bedroom or some part of their house they spend a lot of time in.

10000000% agree. I think if you are above a given age, you expressed your want to die for a year or so, and proved you tried but couldn't. Then you should be able to die peacefully with help of some client.

This would be a sensible first step at the very least, I do however challenge the idea that people should be made to prove that they made attempts to improve their life meaningfully. What constitutes a "meaningful" attempt? How do you measure if someone tried hard enough? Maybe it's feasible but it seems too difficult to determine these things. I think it may be a unnecessary barrier.

 

[Thatdude]

This would be a sensible first step at the very least, I do however challenge the idea that people should be made to prove that they made attempts to improve their life meaningfully. What constitutes a "meaningful" attempt? How do you measure if someone tried hard enough? Maybe it's feasible but it seems too difficult to determine these things. I think it may be a unnecessary barrier.

I think some people want to die because they are lonely, lack of ability to fix a financial situation, and so on. IMO it shouldn't be hard to prove, but I think it should be shown in some way you tried. Otherwise the average Joe will push hard for any program like this to be shut down because it's unethical in the modern world. Then again, who knows. With abortion I don't think you have to prove jack.
One thing I think should happen is there should be some way of forcing the person who wants to die to have something setup for after they die. Like they must have the money to deal with their body after, or have the paper done for them to volunteer their body.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I think some people want to die because they are lonely, lack of ability to fix a financial situation, and so on. IMO it shouldn't be hard to prove, but I think it should be shown in some way you tried. Otherwise the average Joe will push hard for any program like this to be shut down because it's unethical in the modern world. Then again, who knows. With abortion I don't think you have to prove jack.
One thing I think should happen is there should be some way of forcing the person who wants to die to have something setup for after they die. Like they must have the money to deal with their body after, or have the paper done for them to volunteer their body.

Yes, there will inevitably be work involved with a person's death, so it would probably have to be a paid service for the most part, which is unfortunate but it's the only way, at least initially. I still dislike the "proof of attempt" idea, because fundamentally I don't think anyone should be obliged to make attempts which they don't want to, it's their life after all. Just my opinion though.

 

[Gladtogo]

I guess partly the reason it isn't discussed that much here is it's simplicity. You just jump, if it's high enough, you'll die.

Most of the other methods require a bit of research/ planning. Like I started looking into hanging recently as I never knew you blacked out so quickly from it, but there still seems to be so many ifs and buts with it. I like the simplicity of jumping, but i'm lucky that beachy head is accessible.

 

[Thatdude]

Yes, there will inevitably be work involved with a person's death, so it would probably have to be a paid service for the most part, which is unfortunate but it's the only way, at least initially. I still dislike the "proof of attempt" idea, because fundamentally I don't think anyone should be obliged to make attempts which they don't want to, it's their life after all. Just my opinion though.

Serious question, how can we get society to allow and even encourage this? To allow for not only terminally ill people to have help offing themselves. But for anyone above a given age?

 

[Shinkansen]

because not everyone has the possibility of having a very high building nearby that ensures 100% death, the human body is very strong and is able to survive very high falls.

 

[Mgl91]

100ft drop, during the fall 'wow this feeling is freeing, no pain, no struggles'

After impact, I'd hit water and wow did that hurt. I tried moving to the far side as I could see an ambulance, coastguard and lifeboat and police on the other side. There is a strong undercurrent where I was, apparently I shouldn't have survived but because annoyingly I'm a strong swimmer it didn't manage to take me under. Whilst in water I had no pain, when the lifeboat crew pulled me out wow the pain was unreal. 9 on pain scale infact I was in and out of consciousness, I was fighting the ambulance crew and lifeboat crew I remember none of that. I have a vague memory of waking up in resus and telling the police who tried to talk me down before I jumped coming and speaking to me. I apparently swore at them and told them they should have let me die.

I have fractured vertebrae, I live in extreme pain daily, I use a wheelchair often because I can't walk far and have stupid amounts of pain.

Wow . how brave you are . I could not jump

 

[Motoko]

I don't see it discussed a great amount. The focus is on SN, N, hanging, etc.

I'll admit I haven't delved deeply into the specifics of this method yet but it seems like a bloody brilliant method from all outward appearances. Is there something I don't know? Is it lack of access to good jumping spots? The possibility of traumatising the person who finds your splattered remains?

It's an attractive method to me because as long as you jump from a sufficiently tall location, it's safe to say that there will be virtually NO doubt in your mind that you're going to die. No fiddly tying, no cost, no drinking nasty solutions, no turning back, no chance of revival, list goes on. It's a dream in so many ways. Or is it?

I live on 11th floor yet I'm still not 100% sure of potential success. I've considered it, but the risk of surviving is still there. I wish I had an easy access to 100m/300ft point, as an quick exit where in need.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

You are right, it is actually an optimal solution. Good places to jump are always accessible, even if protective measures are taken against them.
If you want to jump, you overcome every obstacle.

I would have the advantage of having bridges or rock faces 200 meters (650 ft) high nearby. If I hadn't found the wish not to be found, I would consider this method as well.

But I'm sure I would be incredibly afraid of jumping into the abyss. Not because I am dead then, simply because of the primal fear of falling, which everyone notices at birth.

As nice as I imagine, 6-7 seconds of free fall with the unique opportunity not only to know that you are dead.
You can also see it, you can see the floor coming towards you.
Beautiful thought.

If only the first step wasn't necessary.

In contrast, I know that I will do a joy dance after drinking my SN. At least until the first vomiting.
I will smile happily while waiting for death.

When I jumped, I would not have overcome the shock of free fall if it crushed me.

But actually none of this is relevant, the main thing is that the first time dead. Jumping definitely has an advantage.

 

[Soulless Angel]

I have not read all the replies, I am planning on jumping, SI means nothing to me, I am ready, I know the bridge I am going for, it's just getting out of the house alone.

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

I have not read all the replies, I am planning on jumping, SI means nothing to me, I am ready, I know the bridge I am going for, it's just getting out of the house alone.

Congratulations.
It's a nice feeling when you can implement the plan at any time.

How deep will you fall ?

 

[Soulless Angel]

Congratulations.
It's a nice feeling when you can implement the plan at any time.

How deep will you fall ?

the bridge I want is 112 feet into water, no known survivors, 2am in the morning, it's job done

 

[LetzteAusfahrt]

the bridge I want is 112 feet into water, no known survivors, 2am in the morning, it's job done

Well, success is not guaranteed, but likely.
For personal safety, I would ingest something beforehand that would numb me severely and I would drown if I survived the impact

 

[Kornyboyo]

Because it's terrifying if you scared of heights.

 

[Soulless Angel]

Well, success is not guaranteed, but likely.
For personal safety, I would ingest something beforehand that would numb me severely and I would drown if I survived the impact

I am planning on a drink or two first, but know it can relax the body to the point of survival, but I have since researched medication that will help beingdopey to the point drowning will be the final result, but you would barely know it
this for me is the idea exit

 

[VexRal]

Jumping off a bridge is the best option I've got so far because of the reasons that you gave and a lack of accessibility to other methods such as SN and guns. Unfortunately, I'm really afraid of heights. I get nervous just going on escalators or walking up/down open stairs (ones with the empty gap in between steps). It's a fairly popular spot for ctb, but I'm unsure if the height is enough to finish me off (60 ft clearance).

Edit: gah I just read TJuk's comment. Thank you for sharing your experience. I feel terrible that you're suffering after that

 

[AlreadyGone]

The method is attractive until you actually have to do it. It is easy to fantasize jumping, but to actually do it, is another story.

 

[Bauhaus]

As mentioned above, not finding a building that is high enough (11 stores), has public access and has also access to the rooftop.
Also it has to be at night because then I'm calm and relaxed and the 'abyss' below me doesn't look as scary when it's pitchblack. I would NEVER be able to do it during the day, even looking down from my 4th floor appartment makes me dizzy and anxious.
And because I'm obsese jumping from the 11 th floor should be successfull because your weight also matters, there will be more kinetic energy when your body hits the ground and hence more devastation.
The thing that scares me most are those 4-5 s before you hit the ground: from the testimonials from ex-jumpers they all say they regret their decision from the moment they jumped and I can imagine that your anxiety will go through the roof in those seconds...

 

[QualityOfLife]

I don't care much for OSHO but he told the damn funniest suicide story I have ever heard. A man was so intent on suicide he was going to cover himself in gasoline, light himself on fire, then shoot himself in the head and fall off the bucket to hang himself... Someone asked him if they could watch. He attempted this stunt beside a river. So he covers himself in gas, strikes the match and when he feels the pain of the fire, he misfires the gun which shoots through the rope and instead of hanging himself, he falls into the river...which puts the fire out...but ironically he starts swimming as he is washed downstream. The person who wanted to watch shouts at him "STOP SWIMMING." Maybe my psychiatrist is exactly like the guy who wanted to watch? "If you want to do it, can I watch?"


Ironically I used to jump from a 60 foot bridge into water for fun. Landing wrong HURT. My borderline girlfriend was always talking about suicide but said what we did for fun was too dangerous for her. "That could kill you." Not real certain why by the next day she was moaning about still being alive? People are different. She had her crosses to bear too. The best places to jump are mountains in Colorado... A LOT of them can be easily accessed by car. There is also the cliff overhangs of 101 in CA. If you can't travel from anxiety, depression, cost, I get it. I don't get out much at all...and it was that way before Covid.

I have a long history of depression, anxiety, ADHD, chronic insomnia... I have all my records...but when I got to my new psychiatrist...he said everything was in remission...and that I don't have depression at all? He said all of my problems were life situational. Yeah buddy, I guess so. That is why I am here...because I have lost every single thing in my life that gave it any value. In 4 years mom died, wife after 12 years of marriage filed for divorce, the entire town where we had lived, worked shopped was destroyed by the largest fire in CA history, I lost two close friends mentors also due to death, I injured my back and it goes numb and hurts a lot, 4 neurologists recommended brain surgery or experimental brain surgery, I lost my profession of 27 years when productivity increased and I yelled at an old man, then the psychiatrist who saw me through all of that and was going to write for social security...well, he up and died too just before Covid. My higher executive function, agitation, loss of short term memory is laughable. I have become such a sad sack with what I say verbally vs what I am trying to communicate that speaking is useless.
I have no family. I am alone. My health is not great, but I manage. I am disabled, only now, new doctors and new insurance say I am well and fine.
Hmm... I need brain surgery, I was fired from a job I did well for a meltdown I couldn't control, my PT told me if I didn't change my entire movement pattern I was going to continue to wreck my back...oh, and I am not depressed. At this point, I don't have much hope. The old psychiatrist felt like all my symptoms fit under the umbrella of autism spectrum disorder... I could definitely agree with that...and some PhD's outside my healthcare system say "Yes, it is in your presentation." I think the average age of an autistic is mid 50's and a lot of them end their life. Yeah, I could see that too. Don't know if any of that thing about life span and autistics is correct? There aren't too many adults diagnosed with higher functioning and I have made it more than half a century now. Best to everyone out there that you find your way.

 

[make_00]

it would be traumatizing and messy for someone else to find and clean up I don't really want that. scared of the pain too, I'm not interested in that, I just want to stop existing yanno

 

[everydayiloveyou]

In an absolute last-ditch impulsive effort, I might do it. i live in an area with lots of bridges and tall buildings. So access isn't an issue. Though bridges would be difficult since recently they've been installing barriers, and it's not as easy to get to the roof of a tall building as people think. The easily accessible barrier-free roofs are usually closely monitored too.

But honestly it's the height that gets me. My fear of heights is nuts, I can't be near railings at all without freaking out. That kinda fear always reminds me how strong SI can be. It also just seems way too painful.

 

[Irishsteve88]

I don't want to ruin other people's lives by seeing me spattered on the ground likewise with trains. I want to end my life not end other peoples lives and have that image in their head. It would affect everyone from the public too the police an rescue teams etc. Otherwise I would have jumped years ago and SI wouldn't bother me a massive amount of vodka an run an jump there's no turning back then.

 

[TJuk]

Wow . how brave you are . I could not jump

Not brave, had enough consideration for others to not jump over the parts over roads as I don't want a stranger to kill me and have that image, guilt, etc. Part of my reason for ending my life is because of PTSD aswell as some stuff I don't want to go into, so I refuse to put someone in that position.

I mean any method your body has to be found which I know will be bad enough for the people but at least they haven't played a part by hitting me.

 

[Eachdaymakesmedumber]

I am planning on a drink or two first, but know it can relax the body to the point of survival, but I have since researched medication that will help beingdopey to the point drowning will be the final result, but you would barely know it
this for me is the idea exit

So you're planing to use drugs so that you fall asleep before you hit water?