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l1ablemistakes

l1ablemistakes

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Feb 16, 2026
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I don't think most providers actually understand what it's like to be suicidal. Last time I genuinely reached out for help, nothing happened. I managed to convince my psychologist not to call an ambulance on me but she referred me to be admitted to a private psych ward. My referral got rejected for being too high risk and they told me to go to the ED. What's the ED going to do? I've been depressed and suicidal for 10 years. They can hold me involuntarily for 24 hours. When I go home, I'll feel the same. So I can't even talk to my psychologist about it. If I talk to my friends they'll tell me to ask for help like I haven't already done that countless times. Can't go to the hospital for a prolonged admission- I have a job (at the hospital). They'll just up my meds again or change them again and the cycle will repeat. I'm so sick of it. I'm so glad I found this forum so I actually have somewhere to talk about it.
 
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Captive_Mind515

Captive_Mind515

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Jul 18, 2023
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I realised quite some time ago, that it was pointless telling most people. It's almost viewed as a contagious disease that people are afraid they might catch or something. lol

The fact people have to routinely lie just to get out of a psych ward, should really tell you all you need to know. We have to pretend not to be suicidal, so that society can pretend they've solved the problem. And then they wonder why websites like this come into existence. It's just head in the sand stuff.
 
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SufferingDev

SufferingDev

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Aug 4, 2024
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The problem is - meds are just meds - they are to help you get better, but they are not THE solution. To actually get better you need to combine them with therapy - and well...the problem is we have too few therapists and so many people that need help - here and right now.

It all comes down to logistics problems really - if we had enough people to handle it, believe me we all would get better help.
 
l1ablemistakes

l1ablemistakes

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The problem is - meds are just meds - they are to help you get better, but they are not THE solution. To actually get better you need to combine them with therapy - and well...the problem is we have too few therapists and so many people that need help - here and right now.

It all comes down to logistics problems really - if we had enough people to handle it, believe me we all would get better help.
I've been in therapy consistently for 6 years. It's my third attempt and 5th psychologist (a few changed jobs and transferred me to their colleagues). I've been on 7 different antidepressants. I used to be very physically active until study and chronic illness took over. I have tried so hard and I feel like no 'help' can relieve my situation, even if the system was better.
 
SufferingDev

SufferingDev

The Prince of the Earth's Last SN Stronghold
Aug 4, 2024
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I've been in therapy consistently for 6 years. It's my third attempt and 5th psychologist (a few changed jobs and transferred me to their colleagues). I've been on 7 different antidepressants. I used to be very physically active until study and chronic illness took over. I have tried so hard and I feel like no 'help' can relieve my situation, even if the system was better.
I feel you - the thing with mental health is that is is so individual that some psychologists just cannot help - and it is a normal thing.

Doesn't have to do with how "good" they are or how much experience they have - it's just that this requires a lot more than physical injuries that are more or less the same across all of us.
 
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Uncounted1846

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Jan 17, 2026
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There are several cold hard truths I've discovered through the process of therapy, like for example my "mom" and "dad" are awful, narcissistic assholes. How do you cope with that? where do you go to fill the mom or dad void? I've been searching my entire life and so far I haven't found an appropriate substitute.

I've also been on various medications since becoming an adult. I've plateaued on two and I'm at my wits end. I can't do anymore medication management review appointments. And new prescriptions plus new side effects for no real changes. I still struggle with anxiety and depression, the pills just make me feel a bit more muted.
 
witchcraft

witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
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Because it's an inherently flawed system in my opinion.

For clarification, I don't buy into this notion that people are just randomly cursed with depression because of genetics and muh chemical imbalance. Except in rare cases, I believe that brains are reacting logically (if not perhaps more sensitively than some) to real immutable circumstances. It's not inexplicable magic. Cognitive reframing is often double-speak for gaslighting... speaking as someone who really tried therapy and several different therapists for over a decade before I became too old to be covered under parental insurance. It's hypnotism with extra steps and the clout of a degree.

Most suicidal individuals, in my estimation and personal experience, are reacting deeply to societal and economic factors beyond any individual's control, including the therapist's.

Meds are there in an effort to unnaturally force you to "tolerate" it. Think soma from Brave New World.

When someone I know is struggling with making friends, I do not recommend they hit up ChatGPT.

When someone I know is struggling with dating or in their sex life, I do not recommend getting a hooker.

I fail to understand why a therapist is treated differently. It's an expensively cheap substitute that doesn't address the underlying problem that leads people to seek them out in the first place.

Therapists are the perfect scapegoat for the average person to sleep with a clean conscience that they "did the right thing" by telling someone to call a hotline or talk to a therapist. They can sleep soundly without any need to authentically confront the very dark struggles and lived experience of someone else. Just tell them they're thinking wrong and go to a thinking doctor to learn how to think right, and you've done your good deed as a stand-up citizen for the day. Fuck off.

But the question then remains: what do you say to them? What do you do for them? If it's not appropriate to insist they seek out the equivalent of a fake-friend or hooker or hypnotist, then what else?

I try to be as kindly but bluntly honest as possible. Speaking from my own experience, welcome to reality. This is how it is. Few care, and those who do have no substantive answer for you. They can't change the structure of society itself. They can't bend time. There are losers and winners, but the winners get to live in the fairy tale of a "Just World." The world isn't just. Most do not deserve their success any more than anybody else, nor are they necessarily undeserving; it just is. This reality makes those people uncomfortable, so they come up with copes, platitudes, ignore survivorship bias and any inconvenient thought. They live in their bubble and they don't want you to pop it. They will go through all manner of mental gymnastics to avoid the cold and often unforgiving truths.

Nobody wants to live with survivor's guilt. Nobody wants to feel that their worth seemingly comes at the expense of others. They will vehemently believe they earned that shit. That they deserve it, every single bit of it. They conjure up concepts like meritocracy. Someone is suicidal or depressed because they're weak, they're lesser, they didn't try as hard they did. An easy to pill to swallow, the idea that anyone and everyone can just have that life, the good life, if they take a pill or talk to someone who read some psychology / sociology textbooks and got a piece of paper to prove it.

The world is way more complicated. We live in a world where if you are frustrated over not being rewarded for being a good person, you are shamed and lambasted, not consoled or given reparation. There are Cains and Abels in the world, but unlike the Bible, the distinction in real life is completely arbitrary. Bad people get ahead. Bad people get rewarded. They Abels are not all good, pure, saintly. Far from it. They are often no better than you are me. For the most part, we are all equally shitty. So the inequality cannot be explained by some ideal of ethics or morality. It does not take a fucking rocket scientist to see this. And so it is no surprise to me that people lose in this casino so badly and repetitively that they want to leave.
 
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