Why is the government interested in making suicide harder and harder?

[HowToCTB]

I mean, why? What does the government have to lose?

Why don't they just help their citizens? Why do they make it hard?

 

[flipperyflop]

Society wants customers, workers and happy people. The consequence of sucide is less workers and less customers. And the affect on relatives and friends can cause less happy people which may cause less customers and workers.

 

[HowToCTB]

Society wants customers, workers and happy people. The consequence of sucide is less workers and less customers. And the affect on relatives and friends can cause less happy people which may cause less customers and workers.

This makes me want to suicide even more, as a huge middle finger.

You want happy people? Fix their damn problems, dear government.

 

[Cinnamorolls]

More people dying means less people paying taxes/contributing to social security. They need the money.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I imagine they'll lose votes if they start helping voters children to kill themselves. Perhaps the majority might support assisted dying for terminally or chronically ill people- when there's literally no hope left but otherwise, I don't think assisted suicide for everyone is a particularly popular idea for the majority.

 

[FuneralCry]

It truly is so terrible and immensley cruel to me, I really wish there's acceptance towards not wanting to exist, I really wish there's the option to just be painlessly be euthanised with no risks, complications or struggle involved. I'd never wish to suffer in this existence no matter what, I never would have chosen to exist and it terrifies me how there is no limit as to how much one can suffer in this existence that's so pointless and undesirable that just leads to decay and death anyway, it's horrific how they'd rather trap people in existences filled with endless suffering than legalise euthanasia.

 

[sserafim]

What shepherd would let his sheep go off and die?

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I mean, why? What does the government have to lose?

Why don't they just help their citizens? Why do they make it hard?

They are making it more difficult to kill yourself every day. In the U.S. they are about to pass a law banning SN in all of America.. It's pure evil for many reasons . People suffering will jump off buildings , cut themselves with knives, jump in front of trucks or trains and other brutal painful risky methods. There is less risk of permanent damage from SN than other suicide methods to escape this prison hell. So they will cause all the permanent injuries everyone will suffer maimed by a suicide method . They won't have SN in the USA soon . It's evil beyond words to take away someone's escape from extreme Torture.

House Passes Trahan’s Youth Poisoning Protection Act

trahan.house.gov

 

[Jon Arbuckle]

Suicide is generally an upsetting topic for most people and it's reflected in government policies.

 

[sserafim]

I mean, why? What does the government have to lose?

Why don't they just help their citizens? Why do they make it hard?

Dead men pay no taxes

 

[idontwantausername]

Dead men pay no taxes

Neither do extremely depressed people incapable of working.

 

[sserafim]

Neither do extremely depressed people incapable of working.

As long as you're alive, you will consume. We're all consumers (most are wageslaves and taxpayers as well) and that's why the elites force us to keep living. We're more valuable to society alive rather than dead. There are endless ways to make money off of us just because we exist. Only when you're dead can the system not profit off of you anymore. When you're alive, the system will milk you for money because it's only after money and profit

 

[idontwantausername]

Consume, to their benefit, what exactly? Tax free groceries? Food stamps? Government rental assistance? Medicade dollars? Poor disabled people are a tax drain.

 

[sserafim]

Consume, to their benefit, what exactly? Tax free groceries? Food stamps? Government rental assistance? Medicade dollars? Poor disabled people are a tax drain.

They can always pop out more wageslaves for the system. Anyways, the elites just want all of us to consume and be consumers. They also want us to have children (future wageslaves) and bring more people into the pyramid scheme called society. That's why society encourages people to have children: so they can create more slaves to the system

 

[ham and potatoes]

Our politicians dont want us to kill ourselves, because thats less people they can tax.
And the billionaires and corporations who basically own those politicians dont want us to be able to, cause thats less people for them to sell shit too

 

[idontwantausername]

They can always pop out more wageslaves for the system. Anyways, the elites just want all of us to consume and be consumers. They also want us to have children (future wageslaves) and bring more people into the pyramid scheme called society. That's why society encourages people to have children: so they can create more slaves to the system

And you didn't attempt to answer the question because you can't. Thinking they're trying to protect tax revenue is incredibly silly.

 

[sserafim]

And you didn't attempt to answer the question because you can't. Thinking they're trying to protect tax revenue is incredibly silly.

Your thoughts on why they prohibit suicide are incredibly silly. Open your eyes and see that there's monetary benefit in keeping people alive, or do you want to stay deluded? It's your choice. You can't realize the simple fact that governments are just after money and profit. That's your loss

 

[HowToCTB]

They are making it more difficult to kill yourself every day. In the U.S. they are about to pass a law banning SN in all of America.. It's pure evil for many reasons . People suffering will jump off buildings , cut themselves with knives, jump in front of trucks or trains and other brutal painful risky methods. There is less risk of permanent damage from SN than other suicide methods to escape this prison hell. So they will cause all the permanent injuries everyone will suffer maimed by a suicide method . They won't have SN in the USA soon . It's evil beyond words to take away someone's escape from extreme Torture.

House Passes Trahan’s Youth Poisoning Protection Act

trahan.house.gov

I completely agree.

 

[escape_from_hell]

Ya'll don't hate on each other...

It's a good point that peasants with net negative tax impact (neets, low wages etc) still serve a purpose in directing money velocity thru consumption. It still directs the printed/tax money to the lords. Like being a beekeeper or some shit.

It's also a good point that the depressed and worthless slaves slow down their consumption activity even if required, and discretionary spending becomes less of a band-aid over time as anhedonia takes control. Could be why so many of us take to drugs as it is virtually the only way to generate positive sensations at all, even if the consequences appear devastating. The choice is between hell with 0 good feelings, or a tiny sliver of good feelings surrounded by a more intense hell. Society demonizes these life-destroying drugs that also happen to be the only possible way for many peasants to experience anything positive whatsoever. Society loves drugs like gambling, alcohol, reality tv, recently cannabis that can be mastered to generate sustainable cash flow.

But, recently they've even found ways to monetize xylazine, fent, meth by directing the users to specific areas for purposes like destroying neighborhoods to buy cheap property, bully other people into working harder as an example of ruin etc. Not to mention the war on opioid epidemic which creates all those recovery and addiction clinics, psych services and the like. It's partially why we see more of it because more sustainable cash is being made versus people going into oblivion without serving their lords.

Ultimately too much depression, suicide, mass killings out of literally going crazy, and so on, will hurt the bottom line. Suicide and depression are milked as best as possible with suicide hotlines directing people to expensive medical procedures like forced hospital incarcerations, antidepressants, that sort of shit. Also recently reproduction is slowed in overdeveloped places but don't think they care about us dying, we are still easily replaced because different areas of the planet are different encomiendas, just like we farm different crops in different climates so too are different peasants cultivated.

Note society will still milk money, your life will be used to generate cash for superiors no matter what. Even if you die, there is shit like investigating the body and redistributing any resources, autopsy, phone calls, whatever--economic activity because people are being paid, money velocity is happening. Even terrorism and mass killings that might otherwise dent an economy is milked for hyping us narratives for politics (huge money direction force) like starting wars or demeaning character traits deemed unprofitable, rebuilding, paying people and developers for memorials, commercials on the news channels as they go on and on and on and on about the event (what forces dictate which events to discuss or move on from?) ad nauseam, all that and more.

What's more is there is probably not a single rich or powerful person to direct your anger at to resolve these things or seek justice. All systems have winners and losers, period. These are emergent forces. You were predestined for hell or heaven (even if born in one or the other and switching at some point), and it may or may not be for the amusement of cosmic powers.

 

[eashanm]

Hell is coming at Lightning pace

 

[ThatGuyOverThere]

for the same reason they keep complaining about declining birth rates. less people means less workers, which mean a weaker economy witch mean less money for businesses and even less for the government in taxes. the more people the more workers the more money for those at the top.

they don't care about you, all "you" are is a number that generates revenue, and if there are less numbers then there's less revenue.

 

[esistzeit]

It truly is so terrible and immensley cruel to me, I really wish there's acceptance towards not wanting to exist, I really wish there's the option to just be painlessly be euthanised with no risks, complications or struggle involved. I'd never wish to suffer in this existence no matter what, I never would have chosen to exist and it terrifies me how there is no limit as to how much one can suffer in this existence that's so pointless and undesirable that just leads to decay and death anyway, it's horrific how they'd rather trap people in existences filled with endless suffering than legalise euthanasia.

I agree. If I owned a country, anyone who were over 18 and wanted to die, could simply go to the doctor, sign a paper and schedule the big day. Then they'd take a magical pill that'd make them fall asleep and die (I strongly believe we know enough chemistry for that).

People who are against suicide have never felt the pain we do. They simply do not understand. They critisize us for being weak without knowing what's like.

 

[HowToCTB]

for the same reason they keep complaining about declining birth rates. less people means less workers, which mean a weaker economy witch mean less money for businesses and even less for the government in taxes. the more people the more workers the more money for those at the top.

they don't care about you, all "you" are is a number that generates revenue, and if there are less numbers then there's less revenue.

Sad truth I guess.
I wish "they" just disappeared...

 

[HowToCTB]

I agree. If I owned a country, anyone who were over 18 and wanted to die, could simply go to the doctor, sign a paper and schedule the big day. Then they'd take a magical pill that'd make them fall asleep and die (I strongly believe we know enough chemistry for that).

People who are against suicide have never felt the pain we do. They simply do not understand. They critisize us for being weak without knowing what's like.

They don't get it and make themselves out to be the protectors of humanity. Pathetic, I would headbutt them all...

 

[glossble]

Because they'll lose consumers, workers and taxpayer. Unfortunately, I don't think they see us as equals, they see us as potential profit.

 

[SilentSadness]

The main reason is unfortunately that most people are very shallow and their emotions dictate their political beliefs. They find suicide repulsive so they think it should be illegal. Suicide has sadly not been normalised like some other controversial actions. As for the government, people keep voting for the worst people to be in power out of fear and ignorance. As always, everyone loses.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

money, money, money. If we're all dead, we aren't participating in the man made bullshit dictated by society.

 

[creirwy]

I think instead of making suicide harder they should make healthcare and especially therapy more accessible.

 

[HowToCTB]

I think instead of making suicide harder they should make healthcare and especially therapy more accessible.

Unfortunately suicide is not all about health...

Some people kill themselves for other problems that cannot solve, or that come directly from the government (think of debts, for example)...

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Do people here really believe that enough people would commit suicide to make that big of a difference in the amount of tax paying workers? Such a huge difference that that's the main reason the government won't give you a nembutal IV?