Why is suicide so bad if everyone dies eventually?

[sserafim]

"Ms Adenekan said: 'Suicide isn't the answer. It's a temporary crisis and with help they can get through it. And we've heard that so many times.'"

Why is suicide so bad if everyone dies in the end? Everyone will die eventually; that's just life

 

[tbroken]

I think it is not bad at all. Usually ppl criticize everything they are not able to accomplish.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

They are totally irrational. I wonder what they will say when confronted with that logic? How can suicide be bad since we all die anyway?

You can't stop Death. We all will die anyway. But they are trying to act like if the most fundamental truth of all wasn't true , all to irrationally paint suicide as something horrible

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

They are totally irrational. You can't stop Death. We all will die anyway. But they are trying to act like if the most fundamental truth of all wasn't true

People have created entire religious systems just to cope with the reality of death.

 

[xhelx]

I feel like it's bad only when people do it impulsively, without thinking if they really want to die or just relief from whatever they are feeling at the moment. Some people genuinely want to die, but some just want to make their suffering stop and could enjoy a few more years of their life. People who are anti suicide seem to think everyone is part of the second category

 

[anastenka]

"Ms Adenekan said: 'Suicide isn't the answer. It's a temporary crisis and with help they can get through it. And we've heard that so many times.'"

Why is suicide so bad if everyone dies in the end? Everyone will die eventually; that's just life

Cultural moral standards generally favor those actions which benefit of society. When committing suicide benefits society, it is in fact endorsed. An example of culturally accepted suicide would be the Japanese kamikaze pilots of WW2 who committed suicide as they crashed into enemy ships. This act was encouraged and even considered noble.

There is nothing wrong about ending your life prematurely, we never asked to be here after all, but society will forever see it as a morally wrong decision if not for a situation like the above.

 

[iloverachel]

Suicide should be accessible for those who want to end their lives
Forcing someone to suffer against their will for decades is bad
We didn't consent to being born and we have every right to leave

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Probably because the powers that be feel they would be deprived of getting every last drop of everything, ie taxes, out of you if you bow out early.

Facts (meaning) of life: While alive, you're merely a contributor to the capitalistic system in the form of consuming goods and services and paying taxes to keep the system afloat. In death, you become nothing more than food sustenance that fosters future life in order to keep the system afloat.

 

[silas0]

Prisoners are forced certain amount of time behind the bars. Planet earth is just a big open prison and you're meant to serve your time one way or another. Interestingly life hasn't been spotted elsewhere in the vastness of the universe that probably means something.
I read in an article a while back there is a chance there were advanced civilisations before but them realising existence and self awareness is curse pushed them to annihilation.

 

[cait_sith]

with everything else, most people prefer quality over quantity, and nobody has a problem with that preference in any other context than existence. If they were to choose between two bad cars or one good one, most would choose the one good one, it's a absolutely sensible choice, but with life everybody is literally forced to have as much quantity of it as possible, no matter how bad the quality is, as it's our duty to get brutalised by age and circumstance to be cherished humans. I prefer quality over quantity with everything, including life, and see nothing bad with managing said quantity to my own will.

 

[silas0]

This is the best quote I've ever seen that sums up life:

 

[blueming]

Short answer: It's not.

Long answer: It's not, but the majority of people are sheep who have been brainwashed into thinking that life is the uwu most precious gift uwu and therefore you have to prolong your life for as long as possible even if you end up as a rotting piece of flesh withering away in a nursing home and the idea of ending your life prematurely even for the most logical of reasons makes their brains explode, therefore bad.

 

[rotciv]

Because death causes a feeling of sadness. And people who have never put this option on the table don't understand and think that living is always better than dying.

 

[Jiyuurakka]

I had this funny thought the other day that everyone who has ever existed in this world so far has died by suicide. It is interesting to think that human beings think that we have control over everything we do and that we take responsibility over our actions precisely because we do, however nobody has control over death. Every human being who has lived, died. People who live out their lives behave as if they have control over death, but if they really do have any control, does it mean that when they die, they are allowing themselves to be killed, in effect killing themselves and does that fit the definition of suicide?

And what really is the difference between a natural death and suicide? Well, some people might say that suicide has "human agency" and that it is unnatural precisely because we put our own hand down when we kill ourselves. Unnatural....what does that mean? Do people think that they are not a part of this world, aren't human beings a part of nature? Do we see ourselves as somehow existing outside of ourselves? When a person kills themselves, isn't it by them taking into account everything that has naturally happened in life so far and then taking life into their own hands? Is this an unnatural act, or is this nature in action?

Perhaps the difference lies in our perception, people think that suicide is unnatural because to such people, the thought of killing themselves never naturally occurred to them and so they deem the act to be unnatural. Maybe it is something else, maybe by assuming that we have control over death, we can live fulfilling lives. To any suicidal person of course, such an assumption is baseless because they know that life was horrible for them, and to keep on assuming that life would get better would just be dumb to them because they were never shown any of that in life.

To suicidal people, a suicidal death is natural, to the average person, a natural death is suicidal.

That's a very grim thought to have, but my mind is in the clouds most of the day, so I can't help myself. Perhaps if normal people were able to empathise with suicidal people first and work towards a proper solution together, we would be living in a harmonious world today, I hope that comes true one day.

 

[anhedonya]

I wouldn't say it's "bad" but it is very sad in most instances of it. I think there are some ways where suicide can be brave and show courage, where it can mean something and show you stood against oppression, tyranny, etc. Many people in history have killed themselves to make a point and the sheer shock of it has changed a lot of historical events and inspired many people to stand up for what's right.

That being said, suicide because of pain and suffering is sad because a LOT of these cases can be helped. People suffering from chronic pain COULD be helped if our systems cared about the disabled. People with cancer COULD be helped if the world wasn't so obsessed with money and needed it for every single research project. People with depression CAN be helped if they have the right resources, which many do not. People in abusive families COULD be helped if the government had better solutions for children being abused. I can go on and on with the examples, but the large point is that suicide is sad in 95% of instances regarding it, in my opinion, because something COULD have been done to prevent it. Circumstances, shitty systems, bad family, sudden loss- there's so much that can be done to help people and this world just doesn't offer it because the rich want to stay rich and that means making the poor suffer. Even you, for example. I see your posts all the time and I always wish you the best, and I'm so sorry for the difficult family you've found yourself in. To me, your death would be sad because you COULD have had the life you want if your family was more supportive. You could have lived with pleasure and joy if everyone didn't expect you to work for the rest of your life and call you lazy because you don't want to. That is very sad.

 

[losing hope]

In the UK when an animal is in pain we consider putting it down to stop its misery. That isn't seen as bad, immoral etc. Difference with humans is we pay taxes & dead ppl don't pay taxes. I think this is a large reason why suicide is a taboo subject and I believe will always remain taboo for the foreseeable.

I recently look into the history of suicide in the UK, and interestingly it only really became taboo since the industrial revolution. As a business owner I wouldn't want my slaves, sorry i mean workers, all killing themselves. Also telling, was how all the other taboo subjects like have become normal and accepted in 2024. Whereas suicide hasn't moved on since it became legal in 1961. I think I know why...

 

[LunarGirl]

I wish suicide wasn't such a taboo and information and access was more available. I wish it wasn't so looked down on that even talking about it will upset people or make them angry. I just want to be able to make my own choice, without being judged.

 

[karmaisabitch]

Suicide is not bad! Actually someone just died by suicide in our neighbourhood 2 hours ago he was 20 handsome young man due to depression

 

[sserafim]

Short answer: It's not.

Long answer: It's not, but the majority of people are sheep who have been brainwashed into thinking that life is the uwu most precious gift uwu and therefore you have to prolong your life for as long as possible even if you end up as a rotting piece of flesh withering away in a nursing home and the idea of ending your life prematurely even for the most logical of reasons makes their brains explode, therefore bad.

Why do they value quantity over quality? Why are you expected to live out your full life?

Even you, for example. I see your posts all the time and I always wish you the best, and I'm so sorry for the difficult family you've found yourself in. To me, your death would be sad because you COULD have had the life you want if your family was more supportive. You could have lived with pleasure and joy if everyone didn't expect you to work for the rest of your life and call you lazy because you don't want to. That is very sad.

It's okay. I don't want to live beyond my mid 20s anyway. Ever since I was a kid, I never wanted to grow up. I never wanted to become an adult. I feel like I'm destined to die young. It's also something that I personally want for myself. I don't want to live out a full life

with everything else, most people prefer quality over quantity, and nobody has a problem with that preference in any other context than existence. If they were to choose between two bad cars or one good one, most would choose the one good one, it's a absolutely sensible choice, but with life everybody is literally forced to have as much quantity of it as possible, no matter how bad the quality is, as it's our duty to get brutalised by age and circumstance to be cherished humans. I prefer quality over quantity with everything, including life, and see nothing bad with managing said quantity to my own will.

Why is it our "duty to get brutalized by age and circumstance to be cherished humans?"

Same. I also prefer quality over quantity

Prisoners are forced certain amount of time behind the bars. Planet earth is just a big open prison and you're meant to serve your time one way or another. Interestingly life hasn't been spotted elsewhere in the vastness of the universe that probably means something.
I read in an article a while back there is a chance there were advanced civilisations before but them realising existence and self awareness is curse pushed them to annihilation.

Really? Just because it hasn't been spotted doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Personally, I believe in the existence of extraterrestrial life. The universe is so vast; there must be something else out there

 

[ToastInTheShell]

I think that its the fact that a lot of people hold one of two thought processes, either: "ooga booga death bad no kill self no exceptions" or "MAXIMUM PRODUCTIVITY, DEAD PEOPLE CANNOT PROVIDE FOR THE CORPORATE MACHINE".

Some can't fathom the idea that some problems don't go away, and don't have the empathy to let people make their own choices. Often, it comes down to the fact that their death will make them sad, ignoring that that same action will relieve some else of their sadness.

Either way, its pretty selfish.

 

[xinino]

Why is suicide so bad if everyone dies in the end?

I assume that the end isn't superior than start and permanence isn't superior than transience.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Suicide is not bad! Actually someone just died by suicide in our neighbourhood 2 hours ago he was 20 handsome young man due to depression

Wow that's really sad, it always very difficult to hear about someone that young ctbing, I wish their circumstances could've been different, I wish that for all of us here but it's a cruel game this thing called life...

 

[SilentSadness]

Suicide is neither good nor bad. It's completely subjective, like everything. That's why people don't agree.

 

[thenamingofcats]

I think a big part of why people feel that way has to do with lost potential and the pain the suicide leaves behind in the living. Not that those two things are present in every suicide. But especially for a young person there's the idea that they have so much life left and to lose that is seen as a tragedy.

 

[sserafim]

I assume that the end isn't superior than start and permanence isn't superior than transience.

Wdym

 

[xinino]

Wdym

I mean death can't exist without life, meaning the inevitability and permanence of death doesn't necessarily make life which is transient less valuable in my opinion. There is no universal rule everything is perspectively interpreted.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Well, to some people, it's hastening a "bad" thing, bad insofar as it deprives one of the "goods" of life.

Personally, I think that death is neither good nor bad, but that its ostensible relief of suffering is good.

 

[TuttiFrutti]

A lot of people believe in the sanctity of life— Life is inherently precious and sacred. It's considered to be a gift given to you and you should appreciate it no matter what your circumstance is. You need to preserve it. It might be an idea borrowed from multiple religions.
It's especially true to people considering that life is scarce, and that it can be taken away from them at any moment without them wanting it.

There's also the infinite potential that life has. There's always a way to get better, to be a better person, achieve great things in life, etc. No matter how unlikely it is to happen, a person's life is worth living because of it, according to some people.

So, death would be the loss of that gift and the inability to reach your potential. Unless you believe in the afterlife, maybe.

 

[Abyssal]

Society has convinced us it's bad. Really just another socially constructed belief in the end.

 

[derpyderpins]

"Ms Adenekan said: 'Suicide isn't the answer. It's a temporary crisis and with help they can get through it. And we've heard that so many times.'"

Why is suicide so bad if everyone dies in the end? Everyone will die eventually; that's just life

"The concert is going to end, so why is it bad to tear up your tickets and leave after a couple songs?"

It's your choice. But while I'm in favor of people having that choice, suicide will always be a sad end for me, because it means the person was hurting. To me it means something was wrong. Even if your seat is a little uncomfortable and the acoustics in the venue aren't great, the concert is meant to be enjoyed. I want to help them move to a more comfortable seat where they can hear more clearly, but once you've left the venue there's no re-entry. I know it's not always possible, and there will be situations where that person is simply never going to enjoy that show, so I'm not mad at them for leaving... I'm just saddened by it.