Why is nembutal so hard to find?

[ladylazarus4]

To preface this, I know little to nothing about chemistry. But is it not possible for someone to theoretically, with the right equipment, synthesize N at home? How is it possible that it is fairly commonly used in veterinary practices yet (almost) impossible to find on the internet? You'd think the government would be more concerned about hard drugs than Nembutal... I guess there could be potential lawsuits but idk.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

N Is a "hard" drug. It"s a barbiturate classified as a schedule II controlled substance. The "ingredients" are tightly controlled, also. There's only one or two labs in the world that manufacture it. The powers-that-be learned many years ago that it was being used by people to end their lives, which led to more strigent controls. A few years ago there was a shortage of precurser components which led to a world-wide shortage of Nembutal itself. There *may* be illicit labs around producing the drug, but I doubt they produce very much, as that's not where the money is. These illicit labs can make exponentially more money by producing fentanyl. Better to make drugs for millions than drugs for thousands, right?

 

[SMmetalhead36]

This is a zillion dollar question!

 

[Praestat_Mori]

But is it not possible for someone to theoretically, with the right equipment, synthesize N at home? How is it possible that it is fairly commonly used in veterinary practices yet (almost) impossible to find on the internet?

Vet practices have a licence and depending on where they are located (country and laws) they probably have very strict rules how to handle and document the use of it.

There are threads where this is being discussed:

Make nembutal

is there any chemist here who understand how to create nembutal? is it possible?

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

Is it possible for a high school dropout with no expertise in chemistry to synthesize Nembutal?

I've recently purchased SN and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. SN is a great method of ctb, but I prefer catching the bus with N. Below is a recipe for N that if found...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Fantasy22]

Why is everything so hard to find it's frustrating. My life is annoying enough as it but I can't even ctb my own way. I swear one day imma just use a rope or smth even tho it didn't work before maybe it will next time haha. Stupid laws I ain't hurting nobody but myself

 

[Sunshine]

To preface this, I know little to nothing about chemistry. But is it not possible for someone to theoretically, with the right equipment, synthesize N at home? How is it possible that it is fairly commonly used in veterinary practices yet (almost) impossible to find on the internet? You'd think the government would be more concerned about hard drugs than Nembutal... I guess there could be potential lawsuits but idk.

There's literally Heroin (and in some places Fent) available easily on streets everywhere and it's as almost as deadly and peaceful as N.
Even if it's cut, people can just use a double dosage especially as a first time user it should be 100% guaranteed death.
If you google Opiod overdoses they all describe it as peaceful and just gone until they are woken up and saved. I don't know why everyone is so fixated on N when Heroin exists.

 

[notherenotnow]

But is it not possible for someone to theoretically, with the right equipment, synthesize N at home?

Learn how to make Nembutal powder at home

Learn how to make Nembutal powder at home for use in euthanasia and physician assisted suicide. Tips on how to make Nembutal at home.

peacefulpilldirectory.com

I have no clue how correct this article really is. I think it should work though, many people have sent me this link in the past.

 

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Learn how to make Nembutal powder at home

Learn how to make Nembutal powder at home for use in euthanasia and physician assisted suicide. Tips on how to make Nembutal at home.

peacefulpilldirectory.com

This is a well known scam site. Best not to propagate the link incase desperate people fall for it.

I have no clue how correct this article really is. I think it should work though, many people have sent me this link in the past.

It's not really feasible for a novice chemist without significant training/experience. For a start it involves preparing sodium ethoxide from sodium metal - sodium reacts violently with moisture and is a very hazardous substance by itself. The instructions also lack a lot of detail that would make following it impossible without some existing organic chemistry knowledge and experience: the reaction is very water sensitive and requires a protective atmosphere or reduced pressure to obtain good yields. The "instructions" don't even give quantities for anything other than the sodium and ethyl alcohol. Obtaining materials like ethylbromide and 2-bromopentane would also be challenging.

There are simpler routes and amateur chemists on Reddit have succeeded in preparing small quantities:

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But they're still beyond the reach of anyone without a chemistry background, lab equipment and access to the necessary reagents - and even then - it would take a long time to produce the kind of quantities needed by these methods.

 

[F@#$]

N Is a "hard" drug. It"s a barbiturate classified as a schedule II controlled substance. The "ingredients" are tightly controlled, also. There's only one or two labs in the world that manufacture it. The powers-that-be learned many years ago that it was being used by people to end their lives, which led to more strigent controls. A few years ago there was a shortage of precurser components which led to a world-wide shortage of Nembutal itself. There *may* be illicit labs around producing the drug, but I doubt they produce very much, as that's not where the money is. These illicit labs can make exponentially more money by producing fentanyl. Better to make drugs for millions than drugs for thousands, right?

And fentanyl will kill you good and dead.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

And fentanyl will kill you good and dead.

That's what I hear. Of course, we don't all have easy access to it.

 

[divinemistress36]

Vet practices have a licence and depending on where they are located (country and laws) they probably have very strict rules how to handle and document the use of it.

There are threads where this is being discussed:

Make nembutal

is there any chemist here who understand how to create nembutal? is it possible?

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

Is it possible for a high school dropout with no expertise in chemistry to synthesize Nembutal?

I've recently purchased SN and I'm still waiting for it to arrive. SN is a great method of ctb, but I prefer catching the bus with N. Below is a recipe for N that if found...

www.sanctioned-suicide.net

I wonder if this is why Veterinarians have high suicide rates since they have access to N

 

[suffering_mo]

I don't think they do in the US any longer....I read an article that even in 2016, doctors in allowed states for assisted suicide were having a hard time finding drugs to help terminally ill patients who wanted to end their lives. Maybe there were some options here on this site for a while but I am guessing they were hard and risky to get.

I'm with you, though but would give a boatload of money to have N.

 

[UKscotty]

Because nembutal isn't made anymore.
Talking about it all the time spreads more misinformation too. People spend time looking for a product which doesn't exist.

What needs to happen is anytime someone mentions nembutal they should be automatically alerted that is doesn't exist. The PPH should update and remove references to it as well.

Instead direct people to the sellers of alternative brands like euthanase. You can find it from reputable sellers, just have to be very careful to avoid scammers.