Why don't celebrities who ctb use N?

[thefoodispoison]

It seems like a lot of celebrity suicides are from partial. Why would they not use N, the gold standard? They would definitely be able to afford any of the costs associated, whether ordering from D or traveling to Mexico or Peru. Wear a hat and glasses or something to lightly disguise their appearance when they go to the farmacia.

 

[Smart No More]

Well they'd be taking a massivw publicity risk going to buy it in person. I do wonder why they don't find their way to D or whatever though. Its probably just hard to be away from prying eyes etc. It's one thing getting drugs but getting drugs to ctb is a going to raise eyebrows and they're so used to having assistance with things it's a different world for them. Somebody is always likely to catch wind of what they're soing and attempt to stwp in and help which is that last thing anybody with intentions to ctb wants let alone a celeb that might find themselves answering to the worlds press.

 

[Dystopia]

I'm sure some would if they knew it existed.

 

[deathgripsme]

I think most celebs wouldn't know what it was.
I had no clue about N and SN before I joined this forum.

 

[Smart No More]

Before barbiturates became obsolete there were a number of celeb deaths attributed to it. Marilyn Monroe, Hendrix, etc. If it were still in circulation it would most certainly be many more. Michael Jacksons death also brings to light the way some celebs have private docs providing potent and lethal drugs that could do the job.

That makes me curious actually.... does anyone remember what it was he was taking that killed him? Apparently it would have had to be administered by a doc and then be left unattended for it to happen the way it did but I wonder if the substance is available via dnm's or whatever.

EDIT: the substance used my Michael Jackson is propofol and harder to obtain than N and would take considerable efforts to be used for ctb. Not a realistic option although a peaceful one.

 

[Someone123]

It seems like a lot of celebrity suicides are from partial. Why would they not use N, the gold standard? They would definitely be able to afford any of the costs associated, whether ordering from D or traveling to Mexico or Peru. Wear a hat and glasses or something to lightly disguise their appearance when they go to the farmacia.

There are legal risks with acquiring N, so this isn't the gold standard for everyone- for many people there is no real gold standard, just the best compromise they can get.

 

[Nymph]

Hard drugs are more peaceful if you take a fatal overdose, there's a lot of deaths where celebs die because of an overdose on hard drugs

 

[callme]

Cdlebrity suicides are pretty much the only responsible reason barbiturates were taken off the market. From what I can gather, they were helpful in many ways, properly fast-acting, universally used in anything insomnia, mania, migraines and they were OTC.

You can thank celebrities for that, Venezuela supporters, scientologists and all them.

 

[lastlife_]

Even though we're very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don't know about it. I've been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I'm 31 now) and I hadn't heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don't know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

Even though we're very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don't know about it. I've been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I'm 31 now) and I hadn't heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don't know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.

What's it like to spend all those years suicidal? I've only felt this way for six months…

 

[lastlife_]

What's it like to spend all those years suicidal? I've only felt this way for six months…

It's like Groundhog Day.. waking up and repeating the same day over and over again. No matter how hard I tried or the opportunities I gave myself in order to improve my life or lifestyle, I never changed and always felt the same

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

It's like Groundhog Day.. waking up and repeating the same day over and over again. No matter how hard I tried or the opportunities I gave myself in order to improve my life or lifestyle, I never changed and always felt the same

Have you ever made an attempt?

 

[lastlife_]

Have you ever made an attempt?

My first attempt was on my 20th birthday - full suspension hanging. Found by my parents shortly after and in a psychiatric hospital the next day. The most recent was partial hanging in July which I was actually able to almost achieve unconsciousness without discomfort or struggle but I backed out at the last minute.. between those two there was some overdoses and weaker attempts at hanging. I once spent 2 hours at the train station trying to build up courage to jump but couldn't.. After my attempt in July, I'll likely go by partial when it's time

 

[Darkover]

the mainstream media is not in the business of informing us they deliberately keep us uninformed, everyone should be taught how to die peacefully should the time arrive when you need it, we're kept in the dark to keep us obedient worker bees, i mean the mainstream media could of informed everyone about bitcoin but they don't.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

My first attempt was on my 20th birthday - full suspension hanging. Found by my parents shortly after and in a psychiatric hospital the next day. The most recent was partial hanging in July which I was actually able to almost achieve unconsciousness without discomfort or struggle but I backed out at the last minute.. between those two there was some overdoses and weaker attempts at hanging. I once spent 2 hours at the train station trying to build up courage to jump but couldn't.. After my attempt in July, I'll likely go by partial when it's time

That takes a tremendous amount of courage… There's some logistical challenges with N But far less than what you've been through

 

[lastlife_]

That takes a tremendous amount of courage… There's some logistical challenges with N But far less than what you've been through

To be honest, even if there were a bottle of N prepared in front of me or a rope, I would still choose the rope. I've done a lot of reading and research comparing various methods to find what's right for me and N or SN just falls very low of the list of what I want to go through or experience for my death.. but you know, we're all different and want different things

 

[Someone123]

Even though we're very aware of N and SN on here, I think the majority of people don't know about it. I've been depressed and suicidal since I was 13 (I'm 31 now) and I hadn't heard, read about or seen anything to do with those substances until I first found SS earlier this year. The first time I ever saw anything that slightly detailed N or SN in the news was only in the last year, too. So I assume most people just don't know.. additionally, even if they did know, it might not have been their preference. Personally I would rather hang, jump or do carbon monoxide than drinking N or SN.

Interesting. Iddon't know which is best- if you have a good location where you won't be stopped maybe co is the best of these. Or if you have a very high locaation to jump from jumping may be the best. Or if you have a very private location where no one would hear any noise full suspension might be the most certain method, though jumpong from a high enough place is right there and co, if you don't leave, is quite certain too. There are so many advantages if a person has a house to themselves with some decent space between houses.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Because most people do not know something like N even exists. I never heard of SN/N until I started lurking on SS.

 

[PassingThrough]

Fashion celebrity Isabella Blow killed herself by drinking paraquat, a herbicide.

 

[Feeding Pigeons]

Hard drugs are more peaceful if you take a fatal overdose, there's a lot of deaths where celebs die because of an overdose on hard drugs

Yeah, this. I think celebrities just overdose on heroin if they want to die.

 

[Auto Immunity After]

If you were a celebrity, would you want a Coroner to release to the press that you died by ingesting a poision that's primary use is to kill cats and dogs? Up until the 60's Nembutal was used regularly as a sleeping aid , available as pills. It was at this time that Dr's determined how easily a person could overdose in error and they were banned as prescriptions for humans for most countries. Vets have been using N forever because its cheap and it works and anyone who has witnessed their beloved pet being put to sleep would agree its a peaceful death. Celebrities have access to any drug money can buy and they continue to die of "accidental overdoses" everyday because doesn't that sound so much more classy than he drank Vet N or even that he committed suicide at all?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

If you were a celebrity, would you want a Coroner to release to the press that you died by ingesting a poision that's primary use is to kill cats and dogs? Up until the 60's Nembutal was used regularly as a sleeping aid , available as pills. It was at this time that Dr's determined how easily a person could overdose in error and they were banned as prescriptions for humans for most countries. Vets have been using N forever because its cheap and it works and anyone who has witnessed their beloved pet being put to sleep would agree its a peaceful death. Celebrities have access to any drug money can buy and they continue to die of "accidental overdoses" everyday because doesn't that sound so much more classy than he drank Vet N or even that he committed suicide at all?

I'm pretty sure most don't even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I'm pretty sure most don't even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site

Yeah I don't buy the theory that N is too embarrassing so celebrities avoid it. There have been celebrities who hung themselves with vacuum cords. ODing with heroin does not sound any classier than using N. I have no clue where this other person is coming from.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Yeah I don't buy the theory that N is too embarrassing so celebrities avoid it. There have been celebrities who hung themselves with vacuum cords. ODing with heroin does not sound any classier than using N. I have no clue where this other person is coming from.

Agreed. And I'm sure they will try their best to hide the fact that N was used for ctb. They wouldn't want more of the masses figuring out there's a way to peacefully exit this shitty world

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Agreed. And I'm sure they will try their best to hide the fact that N was used for ctb. They wouldn't want more of the masses figuring out there's a way to peacefully exit this shitty world

You are right about that. The media puts out false information regarding suicide all the time. Like how they say sodium nitrate instead of nitrite. Some suicides they don't even mention the method at all.

All those botched attempts using a firearm is because of movies where the person puts the barrel on their temple or below their chin. When the correct technique is in the mouth tilted up so it hits the brain stem.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I'm pretty sure most don't even know what N or SN is. I never knew of either until I got on this site

Hanging seems so much more violent. Maybe the logistics of procuring N could be found out and exposed. These celebrities did not want their intentions discovered beforehand. Also some of the attempts could have been impulsive.

 

[Istanbulite]

Many did. Namely Lupe Velez, Jimi Hendrix and Monroe. Oh Austrian author Stefan Zweig too. Bcs it was so easy to access back then.

 

[Belljar]

A lot of celebrity "suicides" are actually murders...there is a lot of trafficking and organized crime circles in Hollywood. If someone is going to reveal things they get murdered.

 

[Istanbulite]

A lot of celebrity "suicides" are actually murders...there is a lot of trafficking and organized crime circles in Hollywood. If someone is going to reveal things they get murdered.

Come on. Many of them were depressed AF

 

[Lost Magic]

Come on. Many of them were depressed AF

Exactly. I hear a lot from conspiracy theorists (with nothing better to do) say that various celebs were linked to X Y and Z. Okay, maybe some of them did want to stop various rings and syndicates. But for the love of God, I wish they would stop trying to negate those poor folks depression and mental health problems. Rich and famous folks get suicidal as well. I think a lot of bored people think they are armchair detectives or some shit lol I'm like, calm down Jessica Fletcher.