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Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
From reading the PPH, it appears to be 8/10 for reliability. Used with a Benzo, meto, morphine, phenobarb, alcohol and Ama's sedating properties, it seems to be quite peaceful - you just have a heart attack after a few hours whilst in a coma.

Is it just because of availability, or something else?

I'm nearing 10 grams that I've been slowly stockpiling, so I'm seriously considering using this method - probably in a big chain cheapo hotel with the 'do not disturb' sign left on the door for a few days, until I'm supposed to check out.
 
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Cheza_mus

Experienced
Jul 1, 2021
242
I think it's because it takes a long time...and should u fail u get consequences like brain damage
 
SentencedToLife

SentencedToLife

I’m so tired of being here..
May 11, 2022
16
From reading the PPH, it appears to be 8/10 for reliability. Used with a Benzo, meto, morphine, phenobarb, alcohol and Ama's sedating properties, it seems to be quite peaceful - you just have a heart attack after a few hours whilst in a coma.

Is it just because of availability, or something else?

I'm nearing 10 grams that I've been slowly stockpiling, so I'm seriously considering using this method - probably in a big chain cheapo hotel with the 'do not disturb' sign left on the door for a few days, until I'm supposed to check out.
I've been wondering the same. It seems to be successful and relatively peaceful, and it's also easier to prep for than SN or other things. I was feeling comfortable with this method but it is never discussed, which makes me nervous.
 
Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
I think it's because it takes a long time...and should u fail u get consequences like brain damage
it is never discussed, which makes me nervous.
It makes me nervous too, with the brain damage, although I'm not aware of the full consequences of a fail. Any info on this? I always seem to revert back to OD + Full-hang, just to makes sure it doesn't fail.
 
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SentencedToLife

SentencedToLife

I’m so tired of being here..
May 11, 2022
16
It makes me nervous too, with the brain damage, although I'm not aware of the full consequences of a fail. Any info on this? I always seem to revert back to OD + Full-hang, just to makes sure it doesn't fail.
I haven't come across many reports of brain damage or other serious consequences specific to this method, so this is quite worrisome.. though I guess I should have known better since I actually started to feel better/calmer once I started stocking up. The main complications I've read about are people not using enough or being discovered too soon.
 
Hercules

Hercules

Arcanist
Jan 31, 2021
408
One reason is availability. Amitriptyline is rarely prescribed for depression these days. Doctors usually prescribe the newer anti depressants which are safer, because they know how dangerous a tricyclic anti depressant overdose is.

Another issue is that it can take up to 36 hours to kill you. That is along time. Many people would not be able to just disappear for 36 hours and not have someone notice and get worried.

Another reason is that if someone survives a large amitriptyline OD, they will have serious heart and brain damage.
 
Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
One reason is availability. Amitriptyline is rarely prescribed for depression these days. Doctors usually prescribe the newer anti depressants which are safer, because they know how dangerous a tricyclic anti depressant overdose is.

Another issue is that it can take up to 36 hours to kill you. That is along time. Many people would not be able to just disappear for 36 hours and not have someone notice and get worried.

Another reason is that if someone survives a large amitriptyline OD, they will have serious heart and brain damage.
It's really annoying. SN seems so salty and pukey. I'll probably just full-hang + an OD of a mixture of shit, just to make sure it works. I wouldn't want to end up so spazzed I can't try anything else and now have to live in misery.
 
SentencedToLife

SentencedToLife

I’m so tired of being here..
May 11, 2022
16
Another issue is that it can take up to 36 hours to kill you.

Another reason is that if someone survives a large amitriptyline OD, they will have serious heart and brain damage.
Do you happen to know/remember where you've read this? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just that these are rather crushing developments for me. I thought I finally had a safety net..
 
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Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
I haven't come across many reports of brain damage or other serious consequences specific to this method, so this is quite worrisome.. though I guess I should have known better since I actually started to feel better/calmer once I started stocking up. The main complications I've read about are people not using enough or being discovered too soon.
in the PPH there are multiple mixture methods that include AMATRIP that are said to speed up the process, so you go quicker - they include opitaes and phenobarb - I have a source of phenobarb, which I am awaiting the arrival of, and opiates are pretty easy to get - where in the world are you approximately?
 
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SentencedToLife

I’m so tired of being here..
May 11, 2022
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in the PPH there are multiple mixture methods that include AMATRIP that are said to speed up the process, so you go quicker - they include opitaes and phenobarb - I have a source of phenobarb, which I am awaiting the arrival of, and opiates are pretty easy to get - where in the world are you approximately?
Thank you. I'm in the US
 
Oblivion Access

Oblivion Access

I don't know anything
Jul 5, 2019
333
They still prescribe amitriptyline for nerve damage in the UK, though I ended up not taking it since the side effects were more unbearable than the pain (which is saying a lot). I wonder what a ctb with amitriptyline looks like, I might just be an outlier who doesn't tolerate it well.
 
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Cryptonite

Cryptonite

In the state of shock of what happened
Apr 30, 2022
725
if the phenobarb gets through customs and is legit, I'll send you the source if you want
Why not use the phenobarb only then? That could be the most peaceful and reliable option
 
Pain In The Ass

Pain In The Ass

Wizard
Feb 10, 2022
638
Why not use the phenobarb only then? That could be the most peaceful and reliable option
because the amount of phenobarb required to CTB on it's own is quite large, and I've only ordered a small amount just to test the water, see if customs bite - if all goes well, I could buy more, but it would still require a much larger amount, and pheno is apparently very slow for CTB also, on its own
 
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Alex6216

Mage
Apr 19, 2022
540
It's pretty hard to get and you need 200 tablets just to die, not only that but you need benzodiazepines as well which is also hard to get.
Why not use the phenobarb only then? That could be the most peaceful and reliable option
Pheno takes 3 days to kill, that's even longer than amitriptyline alone.
 
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Pain In The Ass

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Feb 10, 2022
638
It's pretty hard to get and you need 200 tablets just to die, not only that but you need benzodiazepines as well which is also hard to get.

Pheno takes 3 days to kill, that's even longer than amitriptyline alone.
in the form I'm buying it, it would be about half a pint of mint flavoured liquid to be a fatal dose, so it may be a bit pukey, I don't know

I've tried pheno before for sleep, and it was a horrible experience - I went to sleep and woke up about 15 times, each time having the most vivid nightmarish dream, and I felt so bad the next day, I swore I'd never touch it every again

But with Amatrip, alcohol, morphine and benzos, apparently it can cause death more quickly
 
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Cryptonite

In the state of shock of what happened
Apr 30, 2022
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because the amount of phenobarb required to CTB on it's own is quite large, and I've only ordered a small amount just to test the water, see if customs bite - if all goes well, I could buy more, but it would still require a much larger amount, and pheno is apparently very slow for CTB also, on its own
Oh, I see, phenobarbital, not pentobarbital
then it makes sense
 
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MelodyCymbal

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Jan 21, 2023
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From reading the PPH, it appears to be 8/10 for reliability. Used with a Benzo, meto, morphine, phenobarb, alcohol and Ama's sedating properties, it seems to be quite peaceful - you just have a heart attack after a few hours whilst in a coma.

Is it just because of availability, or something else?

I'm nearing 10 grams that I've been slowly stockpiling, so I'm seriously considering using this method - probably in a big chain cheapo hotel with the 'do not disturb' sign left on the door for a few days, until I'm supposed to check out.
in the 2023 edition it's listed as 6/10 for reliability and 6/10 for peacefulness
 
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Sparx

Specialist
Jan 4, 2023
324
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in the 2023 edition it's listed as 6/10 for reliability and 6/10 for peacefulness
Interesting that it's dropped 2 points for reliability, it was 8/10 previously. And I think it was 7/10 for peacefulness. I wonder why they've changed it.
 
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MelodyCymbal

Member
Jan 21, 2023
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Interesting that it's dropped 2 points for reliability, it was 8/10 previously. And I think it was 7/10 for peacefulness. I wonder why they've changed it.
Interesting that it's dropped 2 points for reliability, it was 8/10 previously. And I think it was 7/10 for peacefulness. I wonder why they've changed it.
 

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Sparx

Specialist
Jan 4, 2023
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SN 8/10 for reliability. Was it 7/10 before?
 
AVeryLazySloth

AVeryLazySloth

The Laziest
Mar 4, 2023
89
I tried it out with taking 100x 10mg Redomex tablets. I took it with fruity alcohol and I got convulsions and my mother woke up from the noise. She saw blood coming out of my mouth and had to resuscitate while my sister called the EMS. When the EMS arrived they lifted me out of the window and into the ambulance, here I flatlined again and they brought me back once more. I was in a coma for 3 days and woke up feeling very mad and I was hallucinating wildly. I saw bugs crawling up my hospital gawn, didn't recognise my mother, saw a tornado through the window ect. If it weren't for my mother I probably would have been on the bus already. It's reliable but just make sure you're alone if you do try this method. It's because of this attempt that I cannot get it over my heart to poison myself at home again (I am 25yo).
 
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novem

Experienced
May 9, 2022
273
I tried it out with taking 100x 10mg Redomex tablets. I took it with fruity alcohol and I got convulsions and my mother woke up from the noise. She saw blood coming out of my mouth and had to resuscitate while my sister called the EMS. When the EMS arrived they lifted me out of the window and into the ambulance, here I flatlined again and they brought me back once more. I was in a coma for 3 days and woke up feeling very mad and I was hallucinating wildly. I saw bugs crawling up my hospital gawn, didn't recognise my mother, saw a tornado through the window ect. If it weren't for my mother I probably would have been on the bus already. It's reliable but just make sure you're alone if you do try this method. It's because of this attempt that I cannot get it over my heart to poison myself at home again (I am 25yo).
You were lucky that they found you quickly and not later, otherwise you would have multiple organ failure and still be alive. I suppose it takes longer to kill than it is desired.
Amitriptyline gives you a physiological shock — decreases blood flow through organs — which causes organs failure.
SN also causes blood poisoning that results in a physiological shock but it looks like it kills faster. That is just my opinion.
 
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reborn87

Student
Jan 27, 2024
120
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I haven't come across many reports of brain damage or other serious consequences specific to this method, so this is quite worrisome.. though I guess I should have known better since I actually started to feel better/calmer once I started stocking up. The main complications I've read about are people not using enough or being discovered too soon.
How much is needed? Abd can it alone cbt?